Ducky Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) if the coach is responsible for the penalty killing unit and the players taking too many penalties way too many penalties actually then Maurice is part of the problem. Injuries were a huge part of the problem. Players underperforming are another reason. I don't put the blame on the power play because we are tied for around 15th as of last night. I even think part of the problem was the horrendous schedule and of course the goaltending is below average. Edited January 2, 2017 by Ducky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 After suffering zero consequences for that embarrassing loss Jets spent the day enjoying fun and sun in Florida. Must Be nice. If they lay an egg these two games they won't like the reception they get back in Winnipeg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 29 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: After suffering zero consequences for that embarrassing loss Jets spent the day enjoying fun and sun in Florida. Must Be nice. If they lay an egg these two games they won't like the reception they get back in Winnipeg. Interesting comments out of Columbus... that one of the first things Torts did was get rid of the game day skate... so maybe rest isn't so bad after all. Assuming they will actually practice between Saturday and Tues... of course The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) I hope Maurice doesn't play Hutch for this three game road trip...you could argue that this is the biggest road trip of the year. Edited January 3, 2017 by Ducky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 5 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: You blame one guy as well. Hint: I won't say his name as we all know who it is. Yeah. I should probably start blaming rookies to the nhl and not the 500 career coach who has been around for years and had the same results everywhere he's coached. Silly me. Lack of discipline crap pk penalties stupid line shuffling and roster decisions are totally not on the coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 You don't think losing 1C, his replacement, 2/3 of a good 3rd line, 1 and sometimes 2 D men might have affected the team? This is not counting Petan and your "20 goal scorer". Too bad Hutch didn't get hurt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 41 minutes ago, Goalie said: Yeah. I should probably start blaming rookies to the nhl and not the 500 career coach who has been around for years and had the same results everywhere he's coached. Silly me. Lack of discipline crap pk penalties stupid line shuffling and roster decisions are totally not on the coaches. I'm just saying you're criticizing Ducky for something you do here all the time. You keep saying that it's always Maurice's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 32 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I'm just saying you're criticizing Ducky for something you do here all the time. You keep saying that it's always Maurice's fault. It's because IT IS . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Because Maurice has future hall of famers like Thorbs and Burmi and Chiarot and Stu and Hutrch and Postma and 4 rookies and 4 players that were rookies last season and injuries and schedule and players under-performingand and sub-par goaltending....any coach should have his team in 1st place with those hurdles.....that's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 35 minutes ago, Ducky said: Because Maurice has future hall of famers like Thorbs and Burmi and Chiarot and Stu and Hutrch and Postma and 4 rookies and 4 players that were rookies last season and injuries and schedule and players under-performingand and sub-par goaltending....any coach should have his team in 1st place with those hurdles.....that's why. These posts are the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 I forgot that he is coaching a team that isn't spending NEAR the cap... Honestly? I think you not seeing these obvious signs and your drinking are problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Ducky said: I forgot that he is coaching a team that isn't spending NEAR the cap... Honestly? I think you not seeing these obvious signs and your drinking are problems. The Jets aren't spending to the cap?!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Spent the least in the league last year I think and one of the lowest this year...or that doesn't matter either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ducky said: Spent the least in the league last year I think and one of the lowest this year...or that doesn't matter either? So back when you predicted the team would get 90+ points after TC, that was because the organization was so cheap? No one - other than you - claimed the Jets would be in 1st place... and you only said it just now so you could start arguing against imaginary people. Now settle down and be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) I remember saying they had a 50/50 chance of making the playoffs. I remember you not being that smart back then either. Edit ... not true, I looked it up yesterday and saw somewhere I said they had a 50/50 chance, I didn't remember ... this was before the 150 or whatever games missed to injury. Edited January 3, 2017 by Ducky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Ducky said: I remember saying they had a 50/50 chance of making the playoffs. I remember you not being that smart back then either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Unknown Poster Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 A lot of responsibility falls to the coach. That's why bad teams often fire the coach (or two or three) before changing management or making blockbuster trades. Its easier to fire the coach. There is always the thought that a team is better than they seem so it must be the coach's problem. And ultimately, if it comes down to coach vs players, players will back each other and coach goes. The schedule was an issue for the Jets this year. Coupled with injuries. But there are leadership issues with Maurice as a coach. They've come out flat and seemingly unprepared in some games. In more games then not, they have a lousy second period. They play poor team D. Someone here (cant remember who) pointed that Maurice using the schedule as an excuse publicly gives the players an out. Was that a bad decision or an effort to protect his team? What he did to Helle last week was awful. Maurice always seems like a hockey genius when he speaks. He might have a future as a TSN analyst. But sometimes it seems like he tries too hard to prove how smart he is and it backfires. The Jets seem like a solid locker room. They seem to play better when the chips are down (injuries etc). But they are too inconsistent. And that will fall on the coach. Now watch them rattle off three wins on this road trip because Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said: A lot of responsibility falls to the coach. That's why bad teams often fire the coach (or two or three) before changing management or making blockbuster trades. Its easier to fire the coach. There is always the thought that a team is better than they seem so it must be the coach's problem. And ultimately, if it comes down to coach vs players, players will back each other and coach goes. The schedule was an issue for the Jets this year. Coupled with injuries. But there are leadership issues with Maurice as a coach. They've come out flat and seemingly unprepared in some games. In more games then not, they have a lousy second period. They play poor team D. Someone here (cant remember who) pointed that Maurice using the schedule as an excuse publicly gives the players an out. Was that a bad decision or an effort to protect his team? What he did to Helle last week was awful. Maurice always seems like a hockey genius when he speaks. He might have a future as a TSN analyst. But sometimes it seems like he tries too hard to prove how smart he is and it backfires. The Jets seem like a solid locker room. They seem to play better when the chips are down (injuries etc). But they are too inconsistent. And that will fall on the coach. Now watch them rattle off three wins on this road trip because Jets. I think you're bang on here. My unsolicited advice to him would be to simplify, KISS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeart Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 and Hellebuyck is starting Ducky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, iHeart said: and Hellebuyck is starting and should keep on starting for 4 or 5 more games at least. Edited January 3, 2017 by Ducky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeart Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ducky said: and should keep on starting for 4 or 5 games. if he wins two in a row then Hutch should go in, it's simple pattern mathematics which I wish Maurice would follow, it's what I would have done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 win two lose one or??? no comprendo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 17 minutes ago, iHeart said: if he wins two in a row then Hutch should go in, it's simple pattern mathematics which I wish Maurice would follow, it's what I would have done I would play Helle in every game until its a back to back or he looks particularly bad. Treat him like a starting goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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