iHeart Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) empty net time....come on guys 6-3 Edited January 4, 2017 by iHeart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeart Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 seriously can't handle a jets win refs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeart Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) Jets you're choking cut it out Edited January 4, 2017 by iHeart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeart Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 and Laine scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, iHeart said: and Laine scores 6-4 Edited January 4, 2017 by FrostyWinnipeg Ducky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeart Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Ehlers almost had a hat trick but the stupid post was in the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomberBall Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 That was a wild one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Jets never make it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Complete bone head penalty on Trouba at the end.... he had time and space and flips it over the boards.... Helle had a lot of rebounds but most of those goals were break downs on our part. Armia and Matthias were robbed tonight... we could of put in more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeart Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Brandon said: Complete bone head penalty on Trouba at the end.... he had time and space and flips it over the boards.... Helle had a lot of rebounds but most of those goals were break downs on our part. Armia and Matthias were robbed tonight... we could of put in more. honestly the refs can't handle the jets winning, if it's this bad during the season they're probably worse during the post season, and I can barely even remember the jets first post-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Tampa dominated for periods of the game. Helle was very very good especially in the first and the 3rd for that matter. Yeah. Tampa scored a few in the third but helle made some huge saves. Didn't like the play of the 4th line at all and Postma and Chiarot. Everyone else was pretty solid. Buff coasting back in to our zone last on the 2nd Tampa goal. Still odd coaching decisions like stafford on the PP and PK and a very passive PK in general. But a good rebound game after a very lackluster effort against the Islanders bustamente and The Unknown Poster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Goalie said: Tampa dominated for periods of the game. Helle was very very good especially in the first and the 3rd for that matter. Yeah. Tampa scored a few in the third but helle made some huge saves. Didn't like the play of the 4th line at all and Postma and Chiarot. Everyone else was pretty solid. Buff coasting back in to our zone last on the 2nd Tampa goal. Still odd coaching decisions like stafford on the PP and PK and a very passive PK in general. But a good rebound game after a very lackluster effort against the Islanders 4th line was terrible you need Tanev or someone like him on that line, Postma and Chiarot are what we have at the moment but I did hear that Myers skated today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Wheeler had a lot of jump in his game today... he stood out. Chairot wasn't all that bad... Postma looked lost though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 No forwards over 20 minutes again. Wheeler was a beast. TB had trouble with Ehlers' speed tonight. If not for Helle, we are down by at least two coming out of the 1st. Trouba had a really strong game. I thought Scheif looked better than he has in awhile. Armia could have had 4 and Matthias and Lowry could have had two each. Excellent 2nd period. Sure hope Helle gets the start tomorrow night. bustamente and Goalie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) We have better than league average goaltending from helle 5 on 5. Our PK kills us tho. It's legit cost us games and almost cost us another tonight. I remember plenty of games that we have lost because our PK is almost dead last. You give us a average PK... we probably have 5 or 6 more wins if not more... there was a stretch where helle didn't let in a 5 on 5 goal for 2 games and we went 1 and 1. Our PK is our downfall and will be the reason we miss the playoffs Edited January 4, 2017 by Goalie The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 How does Stevie Y talk Kucerov into signing a 3 year 14.3m contract again??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ducky said: No forwards over 20 minutes again. Wheeler was a beast. TB had trouble with Ehlers' speed tonight. If not for Helle, we are down by at least two coming out of the 1st. Trouba had a really strong game. I thought Scheif looked better than he has in awhile. Armia could have had 4 and Matthias and Lowry could have had two each. Excellent 2nd period. Sure hope Helle gets the start tomorrow night. Give Hutch Buffalo or don't play him again until helle is gassed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Just now, Ducky said: How does Stevie Y talk Kucerov into signing a 3 year 14.3m contract again??? He wants to be there. No taxes. Beautiful weather. Team first guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Goalie said: He wants to be there. No taxes. Beautiful weather. Team first guy Chance to win a cup, maybe not this year but they have a lot of good pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, bustamente said: Chance to win a cup, maybe not this year but they have a lot of good pieces. They play how the Jets should. Exciting young team for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) If it were me, Hutch would get LA and the Ducks this month...barring anything crazy happening of course. Playing Helle tomorrow is a no brainer and I would play him in Buffalo with over 2 days between games. I'd also give him the Flames and the Habs at home and the 1st of a b2b with the Coyotes and Kings. There is not much room for error at all. If we are going to make the playoffs. We need to start getting wins. We'll get better when Myers comes back and I think making the playoffs this year will pay dividends in one or two years. No letting up, take it to the Panthers tomorrow night and let's start something this month. Everyone is more or less healthy once Myers is back. We are back to a regular NHL schedule. We had three lines tonight that were a pleasure to watch. If Armia starts putting them in, Laine better watch out. Oh ya, ESL had a lot of jump tonight and need to be a big part of the win again tomorrow!!!!!!!! Edited January 4, 2017 by Ducky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 ESL weren't very good in the 1st. But definitely dominated in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, Goalie said: We have better than league average goaltending from helle 5 on 5. Our PK kills us tho. It's legit cost us games and almost cost us another tonight. I remember plenty of games that we have lost because our PK is almost dead last. You give us a average PK... we probably have 5 or 6 more wins if not more... there was a stretch where helle didn't let in a 5 on 5 goal for 2 games and we went 1 and 1. Our PK is our downfall and will be the reason we miss the playoffs Let me show you mathematically how wrong you are. We are about 5% under the league average in PK. We are about 76% and the average is about 81%. Not exactly but you will see how much 1% matters and I am much closer than 1%. 130 times shorthanded x (1 - 0.81) = .19 So, instead of 24% we have 19% of the time we get scored on. The difference is 5% so 0.05 x 130 times shorthanded = 6.5 goals but I will add a half and make it 7 goals. To win 6 more games we would have had to allow 12 less goals to win because if we lost by 1 goal, we would need two goals to win that game. I am saying that we lost only by one goal and if we lost by more it would even take more goals so for the sake of argument let's say we lost those games by one goal. If we allowed 7 less goals, we would have at best won 4 more games. We have had 1200 shots against. If the goalies had a better sv% by .005, they would have saved 6 more goals. The argument could be made that had we got average goaltending, we would have won 3 more games and had 45 points instead of 39. I didn't even mention the soft goal Helle let in last night. As far as comparing him to Price or saying he is top 5 in the league in goaltending, tell me which one of Price, Bobrovsky, Dubnyk, Rask, Holtby, Murray or Jones he is better than? I named 7 to give you a chance. I know you are saying it is the coaching but the thing you have to understand is Maurice isn't getting fired this season. People are getting sick of hearing you drone on about it. Every time you tell me I said it was goaltending as the number one reason we are doing poorly I am going to copy and paste this reply to you from December 11 of this season... "Where did I say it was the biggest problem???? I have said all along that injuries have been the biggest problem." Maurice isn't getting fired this season, get over it. The team won last night and you were still looking for an argument after the game. I would have educated you last night but I was enjoying my Red Stripes too much. Edited January 4, 2017 by Ducky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Ducky said: Let me show you mathematically how wrong you are. We are about 5% under the league average in PK. We are about 76% and the average is about 81%. Not exactly but you will see how much 1% matters and I am much closer than 1%. 130 times shorthanded x (1 - 0.81) = .19 So, instead of 24% we have 19% of the time we get scored on. The difference is 5% so 0.05 x 130 times shorthanded = 6.5 goals but I will add a half and make it 7 goals. To win 6 more games we would have had to allow 12 less goals to win because if we lost by 1 goal, we would need two goals to win that game. I am saying that we lost only by one goal and if we lost by more it would even take more goals so for the sake of argument let's say we lost those games by one goal. If we allowed 7 less goals, we would have at best won 4 more games. We have had 1200 shots against. If the goalies had a better sv% by .005, they would have saved 6 more goals. The argument could be made that had we got average goaltending, we would have won 3 more games and had 45 points instead of 39. I didn't even mention the soft goal Helle let in last night. As far as comparing him to Price or saying he is top 5 in the league in goaltending, tell me which one of Price, Bobrovsky, Dubnyk, Rask, Holtby, Murray or Jones he is better than? I named 7 to give you a chance. I know you are saying it is the coaching but the thing you have to understand is Maurice isn't getting fired this season. People are getting sick of hearing you drone on about it. Every time you tell me I said it was goaltending as the number one reason we are doing poorly I am going to copy and paste this reply to you from December 11 of this season... "Where did I say it was the biggest problem???? I have said all along that injuries have been the biggest problem." Maurice isn't getting fired this season, get over it. The team won last night and you were still looking for an argument after the game. I would have educated you last night but I was enjoying my Red Stripes too much. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ducky said: Let me show you mathematically how wrong you are. We are about 5% under the league average in PK. We are about 76% and the average is about 81%. Not exactly but you will see how much 1% matters and I am much closer than 1%. 130 times shorthanded x (1 - 0.81) = .19 So, instead of 24% we have 19% of the time we get scored on. The difference is 5% so 0.05 x 130 times shorthanded = 6.5 goals but I will add a half and make it 7 goals. To win 6 more games we would have had to allow 12 less goals to win because if we lost by 1 goal, we would need two goals to win that game. I am saying that we lost only by one goal and if we lost by more it would even take more goals so for the sake of argument let's say we lost those games by one goal. If we allowed 7 less goals, we would have at best won 4 more games. We have had 1200 shots against. If the goalies had a better sv% by .005, they would have saved 6 more goals. The argument could be made that had we got average goaltending, we would have won 3 more games and had 45 points instead of 39. I didn't even mention the soft goal Helle let in last night. As far as comparing him to Price or saying he is top 5 in the league in goaltending, tell me which one of Price, Bobrovsky, Dubnyk, Rask, Holtby, Murray or Jones he is better than? I named 7 to give you a chance. I know you are saying it is the coaching but the thing you have to understand is Maurice isn't getting fired this season. People are getting sick of hearing you drone on about it. Every time you tell me I said it was goaltending as the number one reason we are doing poorly I am going to copy and paste this reply to you from December 11 of this season... "Where did I say it was the biggest problem???? I have said all along that injuries have been the biggest problem." Maurice isn't getting fired this season, get over it. The team won last night and you were still looking for an argument after the game. I would have educated you last night but I was enjoying my Red Stripes too much. At what point do you get the ban hammer. I'm thinking it might be soo. Edited January 4, 2017 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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