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US Politics

Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

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2 minutes ago, iHeart said:

EXACTLY

 

MAGA202 ? THAT QOULD BE MY GUESS!

There is no bottom for this deplorable meatsack.

 

Biden has his shortcomings and is flawed like any other political figure. He's made his mistakes and I'm sure he'd be the first to admit where he's faltered in his career.

But one thing is certain: he's not a self-interested, duplicitous, narcissistic, dishonest, bigoted, hateful turd like Trump is. Not even close.

Stahl tells Pence he and Trump 'insulted 60 Minutes' by giving '"campaign speeches"

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/522307-stahl-tells-pence-he-and-trump-insulted-60-minutes-by-giving-campaign
 

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Mr. Vice President, this was not a rally. This was not just a campaign speech to the public. This was supposed to be an interview," "And the same with the president. And I feel that you both have insulted 60 Minutes by not answering our questions and by giving set campaign speeches that we’ve heard both of you give at rallies without answering our questions,"

Good for her.

Btw, CBS News said earlier this week that the White House agreed that they would tape the interview “for archival purposes only.” 
First mistake:  taking this White House at their word. 

He is the greatest president in history and all around great guy just ask him

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Edited by bustamente

7 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Grifter gonna grift.

 

 

 

What's the current exchange rate on the yen to USD? 

Some day, concerned Republicans may want to know how the Trump re-election campaign, raised 1.1 Billion dollars.....but found itself running out of cash, down the critical late stretch.......

What was bootlicker and unqualified DNI Ratcliffe trying to accomplish last night with a confusing presser that said nothing but Trump is being harmed in this election by people posing as proud boys trying to intimidate people to vote for Trump and why was FBI boss Wray apart of that circus.

1 minute ago, bustamente said:

What was bootlicker and unqualified DNI Ratcliffe trying to accomplish last night with a confusing presser that said nothing but Trump is being harmed in this election by people posing as proud boys trying to intimidate people to vote for Trump and why was FBI boss Wray apart of that circus.

A distraction from Obama's rally?

 

 

Biden's camp should bring in Obama and E Jean Carroll as guests.

So....I guess..... its not a surprise anymore.
 

 

genius!!!!!

 

 

Edited by Mark F

Love how she handles his non-answers. 
This has been missing for so long at the WH

 

I have no idea why they even bother to interview people associated with Trump and his administration let them go on Fox and the other right wing outlets. 

1 hour ago, Mr Dee said:

Love how Buttigieg handles Fox News..

 

Buttigieg is one hell of an effective surrogate for Biden.

51 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Buttigieg is one hell of an effective surrogate for Biden.

Buttigieg should have many mic’s with him as he’s going to be dropping a lot of them.

I’d love to see Trump walk away again..

Seems like the mute button has been muted..

Weak moderation.

Edited by Mr Dee

😂 😁

 

9 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

So, debate bingo:

3 cards, one Trump, one Biden, one moderator

Trump -

1. “You’ve never seen/heard“ or “no one’s ever done anything like this ever” - CHECK

2. Greatest economy ever - CHECK

3. refers to COVID as China flu, Wuhan virus or some other foreign label - CHECK (plague from China)

4. The phrase “sleepy Joe“ or “cognitive decline” (nope)

5. “Most corrupt“ politician or family in reference to Biden - almost CHECK (left out the “most”)

6. Hillary - CHECK

7. Obama (pick a random bonus square if he drops in the middle name Hussein somewhere) - CHECK (no bonus)

8. Antifa (nope)

9. Protect the suburbs (nope)

10. Radical left (I debated adding a reference to “the squad”, which he did do, but no to the specific phrase)

11. Rioters, looters, burning, and Democrat run cities all in the same single answer. - close, but no

12. Rigged election (no)

13. Hunter Biden e-mail scandal (take any bonus square if this comes up in his first 10 minutes of speaking time) - CHECK (no bonus)

14. Gets into it in any way with the moderator, either by arguing, unfair question complaint, cutting them off - CHECK, did talk over her when she wanted to move on

15. interrupts while Biden is speaking (even with the mute button feature, this is your “free space”), or mentions “mute button” and “unfair” in the same sentence - CHECK
 

Biden - 

1. “He doesn’t have a plan” (bonus square if he replaces the word “plan” with “clue”) - CHECK

2. “Soul of America”, “return to integrity” or “decency” (said “character of the nation”, last sentence had “decency” - CHECK

3. Mentions Hunter, even if to deflect from the issue (no)

4. Apologizes for/ acknowledges any past errors in his political career
- CHECK

5. Says something knee-jerk nasty about Trump after being goaded (not really, worst he did was “give me a break”)

6. Apologizes for knee-jerk nasty comment (no)

7. Drops the word “man” out of context (ex. says “look,man” as opposed to “this man here”) - looks like I should have gone with “c’mon”

8. Mentions Obama - CHECK

9. Mentions Kamala (no)

10. Answers a question WITHOUT gesturing with both of his hands at the same time - CHECK (but at least one hand all the time, don’t recall him answering without using his hands)

11. Trump’s national COVID failure (Free space) - CHECK

12. Health care (bonus square if he ties this and the Supreme Court issue together) - CHECK (but moderator tied it to Supreme Court, he did not mention them both together)

13. “Worst President” or “most corrupt” President (no, but did say “criminal”)

14. References the fact Trump himself had COVID in any way - CHECK

15. Makes a comment about the mute button in reference to Trump (no)
 

Moderator-

1. Live time fact checks any answer (will accept “That’s not true” as a fact check) - CHECK

2. Says”I’m sorry” in any context (no, was forceful when she interjected)

3. Asks Trump about his taxes or China bank account - CHECK

4. Asks Biden about stacking the Supreme Court (no)

5. Election interference - CHECK

6. Interrupts a candidate mid-answer to get them to answer the real question and not what the candidate wants to say - CHECK (In fact she warned Trump before he started to answer the “talk to black people”, and Trump still did not answer the question)

7. Interrupts a candidate mid-answer to remind the other candidate not to interrupt (Bonus square if they make mention of the agreed upon “debate rules” as part of their chiding) (no)

8. Asks a follow-up question to pin a candidate down on a wish-washy answer (this may be the one that prevents a blackout card) - CHECK

9. COVID (free space) - CHECK

10. “Let’s move on” (bonus square if either candidate returns back to the previous topic right after the new topic is brought up) - CHECK (no bonus)

11. Allows either candidate to ask their opponent a question on an unrelated topic instead of cutting them off - CHECK, but she did a good job many time’s of not allowing it, only let it happen on the Crime bill

12. Reminds us that there is an audience who will stay quiet throughout the proceedings - CHECK

13. Mentions the mute button - CHECK

14. Reminds either candidate a second time about the mute button as a warning or threat

15. Has to tell a candidate more than once during an answer that they are out of time - CHECK

Obviously missed a few options, any obvious ones I could replace with something better?

Final bingo tally by my count. Checks embedded in original post. 

Edited by TrueBlue4ever

What's the point of having a debate with a person who opens his mouth and only lies come out, his administration put kids in cages, period end of story, I hope all involved are haunted by this for the rest of their miserable lives

1 hour ago, Mr Dee said:

Seems like the mute button has been muted..

Weak moderation.

I thought the moderator did OK. The mute button was only used for the opening 2 minutes, which may not have been the best use to avoid any interruptions later on, but allowed for some typical “debate rebuttal” To happen. And misuse of the mute is not the moderator’s fault. Her worst failing was allowing repeated “can I respond” instead of just saying “no we’re moving on”. She could have steered back to the original question a bit more when both candidates danced around an answer. 

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