Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

1 hour ago, Colin Unger said:

I believe that simply jogging people’s memory that Trump was just as vigorous a birther on Ted Cruz says all we need to know about whether birtherism is racially motivated.

the thing you need to realize is that "Cruz" is not really a white guy name.  There lots of racism in America directed at people with the name "Cruz."  You may have heard about the ICE raids and the border wall...

Yes, I know that Ted Cruz is a mongrel of Irish, Italian, Cuban, and Carribean descent, and he was born in Canada.  "Mexican name and not born in the USA" is something that resonates with the Trump base regardless of the details, and I very much doubt that Trump would've worked the birther angle against a candidate named Ted Crews.

 

1 hour ago, Mr Dee said:

Now Trump has lost his Chinese marbles..

 

3D Chinese Checkers...

1 minute ago, johnzo said:

the thing you need to realize is that "Cruz" is not really a white guy name.  There lots of racism in America directed at people with the name "Cruz."  You may have heard about the ICE raids and the border wall...

Yes, I know that Ted Cruz is a mongrel of Irish, Italian, Cuban, and Carribean descent, and he was born in Canada.  "Mexican name and not born in the USA" is something that resonates with the Trump base regardless of the details, and I very much doubt that Trump would've worked the birther angle against a candidate named Ted Crews.

 

Trump questioned whether or not he qualified to be President because he was born in Canada, which is obviously quite different from suggesting that Obama was lying about where he was born, saying that he was born in Kenya. (Because he's black and should never have been voted president)

 

No one has questioned where Cruz was born just whether or not it makes him ineligible to hold the office of President. 

 

Trying to compare the two is ridiculous alt-right stuff. 

Trump:  Republicans are ready to deal, we need to go big!
Mitch:    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/521225-mcconnell-shoots-down-18-trillion-coronavirus-deal-breaking-with-trump

 

 

6 minutes ago, do or die said:

Trump:  Republicans are ready to deal, we need to go big!
Mitch:    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/521225-mcconnell-shoots-down-18-trillion-coronavirus-deal-breaking-with-trump

 

 

I can't wait for Trump on Hannity after the election, attacking the GOP, blaming them for his defeat. 

Hannity won't know what to do with both his parents fighting, having to choose who to live with after the divorce. 

 

 

https://www.thedailyliberator.com/top-ten-ways-to-talk-to-a-progressive/

 

other great stuff there

 

” market alternative to the FDA”

 

coming soon to a corporate wet dream world near you.

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by Mark F

4 minutes ago, Mark F said:

 

 

https://www.thedailyliberator.com/top-ten-ways-to-talk-to-a-progressive/

 

other great stuff there

 

” market alternative to the FDA”

 

coming soon to a corporate wet dream world near you.

Hilarious that conservatives think they are based on rationality. The reality is thst modern conservativism (excepting the evangelical part) is based on pure unadulterated greed

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

Hilarious that conservatives think they are based on rationality. The reality is thst modern conservativism (excepting the evangelical part) is based on pure unadulterated greed

In a lot of cases......including the evangelical part.

At any rate, someone has seen the light...
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/521232-billy-grahams-granddaughter-urges-evangelicals-not-to-support-trump

Edited October 15, 20205 yr by do or die

1 hour ago, johnzo said:

the thing you need to realize is that "Cruz" is not really a white guy name.  There lots of racism in America directed at people with the name "Cruz."  You may have heard about the ICE raids and the border wall...

Yes, I know that Ted Cruz is a mongrel of Irish, Italian, Cuban, and Carribean descent, and he was born in Canada.  "Mexican name and not born in the USA" is something that resonates with the Trump base regardless of the details, and I very much doubt that Trump would've worked the birther angle against a candidate named Ted Crews.

 

He would work the birther angle against any competitor who wasn't born in Canada. He hit every competitor that opposed him with as much furocity that he could regardless of if their name was Bush or Cruz. 

Intelligence is something he couldn’t recognize anyways..

 

IMO they should get rid of the birther rule. You can be the governor of California and be born in Austria. But you can't be born outside of America and be president. 

22 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

IMO they should get rid of the birther rule. You can be the governor of California and be born in Austria. But you can't be born outside of America and be president. 

Just to be clear, it was not about whether he was allowed to be president, it was that he was a black-muslim plant from Kenya. 

 

You would need a constitutional amendment to do it. I don't think that there are enough votes to get anything like that passed. I also don't think that there is enough political desire. 

 

But, I agree. let the voters decide who they want as President. 

Abbott’s contemptible attempt to hamper voting should be enough to get him tossed.

 

It's clear as day down south more people voting in swing states is very bad for Republican candidates and everything must be done to make access as difficult as possible.

Dueling town halls tonight, in one corner and man who is calm, empathetic  and conveys well thought out sentences, in the other corner Donald Trump

These guys are getting down and dirty as we get closer to the election

 

"Lies travel six times faster than the truth." 

There is truth to this.

I thought this was the best place to post this article. It is trumps mantra of "fake news", his use of lies and distortions of reality and has been used mostly for politicalization and division. 

 

Solid read about an actual study from MIT on fake news.

 

here is a link to the actual study :

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6380/1146

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6380/1146

 

 

1 minute ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

"Lies travel six times faster than the truth." 

There is truth to this.

I thought this was the best place to post this article. It is trumps mantra of "fake news", his use of lies and distortions of reality and has been used mostly for politicalization and division. 

 

Solid read about an actual study from MIT on fake news.

 

here is a link to the actual study :

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6380/1146

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6380/1146

 

 

Joseph Goebbels had figured that out, with the use of radio, quite a while ago....

Trump says only Jesus Christ more famous than him
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521266-trump-says-only-jesus-christ-more-famous-than-him

Won't bother to editorialize this one....

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Vote Early.

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“Leaked” information..

 

58 minutes ago, do or die said:

Trump says only Jesus Christ more famous than him
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521266-trump-says-only-jesus-christ-more-famous-than-him

Won't bother to editorialize this one....

 

Biden won’t interrupt tonight Don boy, but he will be in your head.

 

17 Million Americans have now voted.
Now, they simply may all be rushing to re-elect Trump.    But I seriously doubt it

Actually that ad with Donnie Jr suits him.