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Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

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Just contrast these two images.

That tells a story...

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9 hours ago, Fred C Dobbs said:

First preview of Woodward's forthcoming book:

 

So after Woodward’s last book, Trump knew he couldn’t denigrate a respected journalist of his character, so instead he claimed that the sources were all lies and Woodward never got the real story from the Donald himself because Woodward did not interview him directly. So Woodward goes to Trump this time saying he wants the real story and can he tape Donald so everything is accurate, so Trump bites because his ego can’t be controlled, and Woodward gets all the dirt from Donny himself. No way Trump can claim mis-quote or fake news here. I almost think Woodward was playing the long con and the first book was just a set up to get Trump on record this time to sink him. Don got played like a fiddle. 

Trump couldn't help himself.   Looking at Woodward as a fellow celeb, he just couldn't.  Or was trying to massage a better result, on this book, than Woodward's first book, because after all...Trump is so much smarter than anyone.

Pretty sure that people around Trump had a seizure, finding out that there was 30 hours of interviews on tape. 

As far as the content - it simply provided some confirmation that Trump and his administration was spinning, deflecting and outright lying about the virus, right from the get go.  Or if you like....the normal modus operandi.

Plenty of people around these parts have figured this out already.

From Trump's twisted point of view, it made sense.  Having thousands of Americans die, by withholding crucial information about the virus wasn't as important...... as say a potential trade deal (win) with China, and preventing a panic......... of the stock market. 

Sick.

..........and you wonder why the Senate is a mess with guys like this, he might as well put his fingers in his ears and yell "I can't hear you"

 

If I ever shame myself here to such a degree that I have to abandon my name and start anew, my new secret identity will be Gotcha Books.

7 hours ago, bustamente said:

and you wonder why the Senate is a mess with guys like this, he might as well put his fingers in his ears and yell "I can't hear you"

Yes, his answers were very lame and weak. A deadhead. Someone I wouldn’t want representing me in the WH.

Claire McCaskill, former Senator from Missouri:

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'It has been obvious ever since Trump first ran for president that many of his core supporters actually hate the people who hate Trump, more than they care about Trump or any particular action he takes, no matter how awful'. Thomas Friedman

I took this from his opinion piece entitled: Who Can Win America’s Politics of Humiliation?

I found this particular statement, although maybe obvious to some, really insightful.

Unrealistic to expect cult members to denounce the leader, no matter what he says and does.    But, the galling part is that there are plenty of Republicans who recognize the danger.....but who lack total understanding of what Trump is doing to that country, or more importantly, the intestinal fortitude to address it.

The GOP currently stands for nothing....

And he thinks he’s right..

 

I guess it’s called Fox network because Looney Tunes was already taken...

 

9 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

I guess it’s called Fox network because Looney Tunes was already taken...

 

Between watching Fox, golfing, stuffing junk food down his pie hole and sitting on the can rage tweeting he has no time to do anything else and it shows as he has created a mess that will take years to correct 

Watched the Fox panel explaining how Trump ignoring reality with the virus, and lying to the people, this avoiding "panic"...... was actually some form of enlightened leadership.   According to Tucker Carlson, Trump's comments to Woodward was actually L. Graham's fault.....for "allowing" the interviews to take place. 

Fox can kill brain cells, so I have to carefully limit my dose....

It’s not always easy to see the whole picture when Trump is involved and believability is always an issue with him, but I suspect this professional (Woodward) would do his fact checking first, and get all his information in line before he drops this huge bombshell on America.

Trump doesn’t even realize..

Trump is just lucky that 30+% of America have no critical thinking ability and will just swallow what ever tripe conservatives tell them.

Raising money for the Trump campaign...


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Donald Trump has been widely mocked after playing Creedence Clearwater Revival‘s ‘Fortunate Son’ when arriving at a campaign rally in Michigan. (“Some folks are born, silver spoon in hand”)

The 1969 track was released at the height of the Vietnam war and offers a scathing take on military deferments and the safe positions that were offered to well-connected individuals at a time when millions of Americans were being drafted to the front line.

Singer John Fogerty previously said of the track: “The song speaks more to the unfairness of class than war itself. It’s the old saying about rich men making war and poor men having to fight them.”

https://www.nme.com/news/music/donald-trump-mocked-for-absolute-irony-of-playing-fortunate-son-at-rally-2750668


 

19 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:


Donald Trump has been widely mocked after playing Creedence Clearwater Revival‘s ‘Fortunate Son’ when arriving at a campaign rally in Michigan. (“Some folks are born, silver spoon in hand”)

The 1969 track was released at the height of the Vietnam war and offers a scathing take on military deferments and the safe positions that were offered to well-connected individuals at a time when millions of Americans were being drafted to the front line.

Singer John Fogerty previously said of the track: “The song speaks more to the unfairness of class than war itself. It’s the old saying about rich men making war and poor men having to fight them.”

https://www.nme.com/news/music/donald-trump-mocked-for-absolute-irony-of-playing-fortunate-son-at-rally-2750668


 

Almost as ironic as Donald Trump posing as a "law and order" President

7 minutes ago, do or die said:

Almost as ironic as Donald Trump posing as a "law and order" President

Yep, Law and Disorder

 

 

The only thing missing here is...sincerity.

 

Jeebus. Nobel attempt though...

 

9/11 - And the nightmare continues...

 

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