Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

5 minutes ago, Zontar said:

We were talking about trying to fluff off the reemergence of Hillary as a Fox talking point and conspiracy theory when it's a common notion accross the spectrum.

We were talking about how fox news picked up the Hillary sliding in as POTUS because of Biden:

2 hours ago, Zontar said:

Hillary presidency via side door ? 

"A Tragic Presidency Cut Short" followed by "The Accidental President" knowing full well from the start Biden was sliding into senility is beyond cynicism even by 21st century political standards.

 

1 hour ago, Zontar said:

Right like Hillary finding a way back into the race theorizing hasn't been common currency in media for years. Only on Fox, right ?

A needn't be Hillary to be cynical. Any running mate chosen knowing full well Biden has begun descent into dementia but still campaigning him as a viable president is reprehensible.

Biden lost it on another constituent today in Detrot. Averages one awkward blowup in public a month now. But he still has months and months of campaigning and debates still to,come. A person in his state can only take so much.

 

Then you started to lash out about Bloomberg, Woke virtue signallers and snowflake SJWs and all that alt-right jargon.

 

24 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Lame. The possibility of Bloomberg naming Hilary as VP was at least a 2-3 day news cycle. Being deliberately obtuse is weak.

 

Like I said- watching fox news is not a crime. 

Hillary or any VP becoming president because of Biden's problems is a perfectly valid question to raise and you know it.

In fact it will among the dominate issues in an election should Biden be nominee.

Edited March 10, 20205 yr by Zontar

27 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Like there's a possibility Biden wont nominate a woman who wasn't sufficiently "progressive" and woke to virtue signal to their white big city voter base? Essentially guranteed.

Virtue signalling to white progressives or what Trump does, virtue signal to white supremacists.  But yeah, the "woke" are just awful.  Lets appeal to the racists, right?

12 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Hillary or any VP becoming president because of Biden's problems is a perfectly valid question to raise and you know it.

In fact it will among the dominate issues in an election should Biden be nominee.

Yes the alt right will try to make mental competency an election issue.  Not sure they should given Trump's issues which are far more accurate and prevalent than Biden.  But they'll do it anyway.  Another reason so many have floated the idea of replacing Pence.  

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Yes the alt right will try to make mental competency an election issue.  Not sure they should given Trump's issues which are far more accurate and prevalent than Biden.  But they'll do it anyway.  Another reason so many have floated the idea of replacing Pence.  

Hey, Pence is actually a stable......uh, cardboard cutout.

Funny, watching Pence step up to the podium, at last nights Trump press conference.....turned to the wife and said "lets see how many times Pence finds a way to praise Trump's leadership".  
Turns out it was 5 times, in just over three minutes.   And as at most Trump PC's......Donald didn't stick around to take questions. 

3 hours ago, Zontar said:

Hillary presidency via side door ? 

"A Tragic Presidency Cut Short" followed by "The Accidental President" knowing full well from the start Biden was sliding into senility is beyond cynicism even by 21st century political standards.

Hillary would just be sad. Biden through out some names back in November, Sally Yates, Stacey Abrams, Jeanne Shaheen and Magie Hassan, obviously all women, which is what the Dems want. 

1 hour ago, Zontar said:

Hillary or any VP becoming president because of Biden's problems is a perfectly valid question to raise and you know it.

In fact it will among the dominate issues in an election should Biden be nominee.

Only to rational folk, the left isn't rational. 

16 minutes ago, pigseye said:

Only to rational folk, the left isn't rational. 

Far more rational than the alt right.  Trumps mental issues are far more glaring than any Biden gaffes.  It’s Laughable partisan none sense to say otherwise.  I’m all for a health debate but trump loses that one too.  

Edited March 10, 20205 yr by The Unknown Poster

20 minutes ago, pigseye said:

Only to rational folk, the left isn't rational. 

And pigeye with the troll...

One of these day, will have to figure out if I am actually "left" or not.  Or how rational I am.
The prospect leaves me somewhat "wide eyed"

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Virtue signalling to white progressives or what Trump does, virtue signal to white supremacists.  But yeah, the "woke" are just awful.  Lets appeal to the racists, right?

Irony is the only people who care about woke garbage is affluent white liberals in the professional class.Its like their own language only appreciated and understood by them alone.

 Blacks and Latins, whom the Democrats consider their base and therefore have to chase down and mobilize, have no use for it.

Warren and Sanders, in particular found out the hard the way and it cost them .It also cost them white rural support, who couldnt care less about the right pronouns etc either.

 In Warrens case it cost her everything.

1 hour ago, pigseye said:

Only to rational folk, the left isn't rational. 

"Rational" is a white patriarchal construct.

1 hour ago, pigseye said:

Hillary would just be sad. Biden through out some names back in November, Sally Yates, Stacey Abrams, Jeanne Shaheen and Magie Hassan, obviously all women, which is what the Dems want. 

My money is on Kobluchar.

Edited March 10, 20205 yr by Zontar

 

2 hours ago, do or die said:

Hey, Pence is actually a stable......uh, cardboard cutout.

Funny, watching Pence step up to the podium, at last nights Trump press conference.....turned to the wife and said "lets see how many times Pence finds a way to praise Trump's leadership".  
Turns out it was 5 times, in just over three minutes.   And as at most Trump PC's......Donald didn't stick around to take questions. 

Supporting the Pres in public is kinda in the VP employee handbook. Youve probably noticed it over the years.

11 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Irony is the only people who care about woke garbage is affluent white liberals in the professional class.Its like their own language only appreciated and understood by them alone.

13 minutes ago, Zontar said:

 

Supporting the Pres in public is kinda in the VP employee handbook. Youve probably noticed it over the years.

Supporting, yes- ass sucking? No, I don't think so.

Edited March 10, 20205 yr by wanna-b-fanboy

1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Difference being theyre trying to lure black votes with jobs, opportunity, economic future not leftist , progressive dogma.

4 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Difference being theyre trying to lure black votes with jobs, opportunity, economic future not leftist , progressive dogma.

Trump allies are handing out cash to black voters

Organizers have begun holding events in black communities where they lavish praise on the president while handing out thousands of dollars in giveaways.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/29/trump-black-voters-cash-giveaways-108072

Edited March 10, 20205 yr by do or die

5 minutes ago, do or die said:

Trump allies are handing out cash to black voters

Organizers have begun holding events in black communities where they lavish praise on the president while handing out thousands of dollars in giveaways.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/29/trump-black-voters-cash-giveaways-108072

Pandering to a demographic in an election year. An exclusive report with sports and weather at 11.

10 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Difference being theyre trying to lure black votes with jobs, opportunity, economic future not leftist , progressive dogma.

Incredible how the bullshit you spew gets proven wrong and you still manage to find a way to shove your foot deeper into your mouth. That's an impressive level of cognitive dissonance.

19 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Incredible how the bullshit you spew gets proven wrong and you still manage to find a way to shove your foot deeper into your mouth. That's an impressive level of cognitive dissonance.

Trump hyping black employment numbers as an outreach tactic instead of leftist "Trump is a racist and hes gonna put you back in chains"  is BS ? Youre not paying attention..

Edited March 10, 20205 yr by Zontar

25 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Trump hyping black employment numbers as an outreach tactic instead of leftist "Trump is a racist and hes gonna put you back in chains"  is BS ? Youre not paying attention..

Except... none of what You said above is true.

3 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Far more rational than the alt right.  Trumps mental issues are far more glaring than any Biden gaffes.  It’s Laughable partisan none sense to say otherwise.  I’m all for a health debate but trump loses that one too.  

Far left, far right, they are all part of the lunatic fringe imo. 

3 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

And pigeye with the troll...

Devils advocate, since I am neither far right nor far left. 

2 hours ago, Zontar said:

My money is on Kobluchar.

Too far left, imo.