Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

Interesting vid on counter intelligence ops

I like Asha Rangappa- she does solid commentary. 

 

oh **** Erik Prince, there's a guy who looks at mass graves and see dollar signs. a ******* hyena.

US presence in Syria was in violation of international law. CIA was arming radical islamists as a proxy army. I get why forever war neo cons are unhappy with the withdrawal but to hear it from leftists is breathtaking.

Willing to sell their souls for one news cycle to try and own Trump. Pitiful.

Eric Prince moved to the Middle East quite a few years ago.

12 minutes ago, johnzo said:

oh **** Erik Prince, there's a guy who looks at mass graves and see dollar signs. a ******* hyena.

Yeah, a real creep. Read his Wikipedia page.

Awful.

20 minutes ago, Zontar said:

US presence in Syria was in violation of international law. CIA was arming radical islamists as a proxy army. I get why forever war neo cons are unhappy with the withdrawal but to hear it from leftists is breathtaking.

Willing to sell their souls for one news cycle to try and own Trump. Pitiful.

I don't think it was the fact of withdrawing troops... I think it has more to with how it was done. 
 

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     “Lindsey Graham would like to stay in the Middle East for the next thousand years with thousands of soldiers . . . fighting other people’s wars. I want to get out of the Middle East,” Mr Trump said.

“We were supposed to be in Syria for one month. That was 10 years ago and we’ve been a police force,” the president added.

 

Yet- he is deploying thousands of soldiers to Saudi Arabia... makes no sense unless he's lying.
 

Graham is a forever war,  arms industry lobby swamp creature neo con, of course he's grumpy.

 

hahahaha

also I can’t believe trump was the one who tweeted that photo of Nancy scolding him in the cabinet room while his guys hung their heads and he appeared to be backing away.  He’s lucky she’s not running for president.  It’s a great photo for her. 

13 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Yet- he is deploying thousands of soldiers to Saudi Arabia... makes no sense unless he's lying.

The Atlantic:

"He’d have us believe that this is a campaign promise kept: an America First foreign policy that refuses to risk American blood or waste U.S. dollars in the Middle East.

“Now,” he claims, “we are slowly & carefully bringing our great soldiers & military home.”

But it isn’t so.

Take it from the Pentagon reporter at Fox News, who reports, “Since May, U.S. forces have increased in Middle East by ~14,000 ...

 

In another tweet, Trump declared, “The Endless Wars Must End!” To which a noninterventionist congressman, Justin Amash, retorted, “Then we’ll need a new president who will end them. President Trump has had nearly three years to end them and has done zero. He keeps sending more troops to the Middle East … He vetoed legislation that would have limited U.S. involvement in the Yemen war.”

yeah, he's lying. He always lies.

Which is what other liars like about him.

STILL WAITING FOR ALL THOSE FRAUDULENT VOTER LINKS

Edited October 17, 20196 yr by Mark F

14 hours ago, Mark F said:

Eric Prince moved to the Middle East quite a few years ago.

Yeah, a real creep. Read his Wikipedia page.

Awful.

Or go one further and read the book (it's terrifyingly good).

https://www.amazon.ca/Blackwater-Rise-Worlds-Powerful-Mercenary/dp/156858394X?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duc12-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=156858394X

The groundbreaking bestselling expose of the shadowy mercenary army that perpetrated horrific war crimes in America's name.

On September 16, 2007, machine gun fire erupted in Baghdad's Nisour Square, leaving seventeen Iraqi civilians dead, among them women and children. The shooting spree, labeled "Baghdad's Bloody Sunday," was neither the work of Iraqi insurgents nor U.S. soldiers. The shooters were private forces, subcontractors working for the secretive mercenary company, Blackwater Worldwide, led by Erik Prince

Award-winning journalist Jeremy Scahill takes us from the bloodied streets of Iraq to hurricane-ravaged New Orleans to the chambers of power in Washington, to reveal the frightening new face of the U.S. military machine, and what happens when you outsource war.

 

Elijah Cummings Chairman of the Oversight committee has passed away

Oh FFS - the wrong politician died. Sadly, I think trump is smiling. 

 

 

17 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

 

That article is very compelling.

5 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

That article is very compelling.

Yeah, I always thought there was shady dealings with insider trading and the chaos of the presidency- just never knew that it would be that brazen nor in such huge amounts.

 

I always thought that trump treated the presidency as a side hustle.

Turkey ‘effectively holding 50 US nuclear bombs hostage’ at air base amid Syria invasion

White House officials scrambling to retrieve weapons of mass destruction, reports say

An estimated 50 US nuclear bombs are effectively being held hostage in Turkey as Washington attempts to find a diplomatic way of responding to the country’s invasion of Syria, officials are reported to have warned.

The withdrawal of American troops from northern Syria – creating a power vacuum that has allowed Turkey and Russia to move into the region and displace Washington’s Kurdish allies – has caused international outcry.

And as even his supporters accuse the White House of betraying its allies, Donald Trump has been forced to escalate his opposition to Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan, threatening to “destroy” his counterpart's economy and contract America’s alliance with Ankara.

However, the rapid pace of withdrawal and the tumultuous decline of relations between the two countries has left administration officials scrambling to find a plan for the nuclear weapons stored under American control at the shared Incirlik Air Base in south east Turkey, reports said.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-syria-us-nuclear-weapons-bombs-trump-war-isis-kurds-a9158416.html

36 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

An estimated 50 US nuclear bombs are effectively being held hostage in Turkey as Washington attempts to find a diplomatic way of responding to the country’s invasion of Syria, officials are reported to have warned.

nuclear rubber hitting the road. Been waiting for something this horrific.

"fallout" As the Trump stable genius makes all of his unplanned, gut instinct self benefiting, idiotic moves.

There's a history to American nuclear weapons in Turkey.

 

Edited October 17, 20196 yr by Mark F

But... But.... Hunter Biden!

 

 

 

Like I said- Treating the office of the POTUS like a Side hustle.

 

Oh and expect Putin to make an appearance.... holy ****...

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Mulvaney also said the administration will "continue to review" whether Russia should attend and would make the decision at a "later" date.

Trump brought up the idea of formally inviting Russia back into the G7 at the most recent summit in Biarritz, France, but other leaders rebuffed his suggestion. Leaders maintained that Russia should not be readmitted until it ends its annexation of Crimea in Ukraine.

Mulvaney said Trump has the authority to invite Russian President Vladimir Putin to attend even if members of the G7 don't agree to invite Russia back as a full member.

 

Edited October 17, 20196 yr by wanna-b-fanboy

1 minute ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

But... But.... Hunter Biden!

 

 

If I'm a member, I'm upset. Means you can't access the course a couple of weeks while they prepare. 

I hear the same complaints from members of Winnipeg courses when big tourneys are held there. Only difference is that the course won't be torn up.

A grifter's gotta grift. 

8 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

But... But.... Hunter Biden!

 

 

 

Like I said- Treating the office of the POTUS like a Side hustle.

Worked for Katz.

This guy is so transparent 

 

another big day.  Chief of staff admits to quid pro quo. DOJ says that’s news to them. Trump lawyers publicly distance themselves from CoS. 
 

oh and 

 

Ummmm

Edit. That was totally the wrong post. 

Edited October 17, 20196 yr by The Unknown Poster

Add Mulvaney to the not very bright, sooner or later and for the good of their country the Republicans in the Senate will have to the right thing if the House impeaches Trump.

 

 

 

 

So I just came across this little tidbit...

 

So last OCt 7th Monday was the day The US pulled out of Syria- giving turkey a green light to slaughter Kurds and annex a portion of Syria.... Also, effectively giving Putin control of the region. 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/white-house-turkey-syria-intl-hnk/index.html

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On Monday some Republican politicians and former Trump administration officials criticized the President's decision to "abandon" Kurdish allies.
US Senator Lindsey Graham tweeted: "This decision to abandon our Kurdish allies and turn Syria over to Russia, Iran, & Turkey will put every radical Islamist on steroids. Shot in the arm to the bad guys. Devastating for the good guys."

 

So this all happened on October 7th last week... I can even make this next part up: