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US Politics

Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

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What’s piece of garbage 

 

Continues to make calling widows political 

 

Plus he's holding back some record.  of the ones released nothing too earth shattering.  Oswald met with a KGB assasin.  The Russians thought it was a right wing conspiracy and someone called a UK news agency anonymously right before the hit and told them something big was about to go down.  Also, someone called the FBI the day before Oswald was shot and said there was a committee formed to take him out and he needed to be protected.

Holding back a few items on the ground of national security sounds pretty fishy.

8 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Ummmm

 

This would be so funny... if that motherfucker wasn't president of the U.S.A.

 

3 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

This would be so funny... if that motherfucker wasn't president of the U.S.A.

 

Question is, how long (if ever) will it take the US to recover from this piece of garbage? 

He's aroused some people that aren't going to go away quietly. And there are a lot of them down there. Millions. 

Not to mention the degradation of every single government responsibility, domestic, international, the US relationships with the rest of the world.

America might have a hard time finding it's balance after this. Who knows where all this will end up.

The desperation by a wildly frightened Trump would be hilarious if it weren’t so sad. This guy is losing his mind over fear of Mueller. 

 

 

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/paul-manafort-russia-investigation-surrender/index.html

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Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former Trump campaign official Rick Gates surrendered Monday to Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller, according to a source with direct knowledge of the matter.

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Manafort arrived at the FBI's Washington field office Monday morning. He and Gates were indicted under seal on Friday, the source said. The two are being processed separately, according to a law enforcement official. They will later be transported to federal district court in Washington later Monday morning.


The indictments are expected to be unsealed later Monday. The extent of the charges was not immediately known.

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Crazy seeing how panicked Trump was since last week. Desperate. 

Also this:

Washington (CNN)A former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser has pleaded guilty to making a false statement to the FBI after he lied about his interactions with foreign officials close to the Russian government, the campaign's clearest connection so far to Russia's efforts to meddle in the 2016 election.

In court records unsealed on Monday, the FBI said George Papadopoulos "falsely described his interactions with a certain foreign contact who discussed 'dirt' related to emails" concerning Hillary Clinton.
In addition, former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former Trump campaign official Rick Gates surrendered Monday to Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller.

Supposedly Trump had to be talked out of firing Mueller.  Can he even fire Mueller?  I thought he could not.. Nixon had to order the AG to do it (leading to the AG's resignation). 

Have to believe Trump will fire him if any charges against Trump or his family are coming.  But what happens if he actually fired Mueller?  He seems to desperately be trying to make a case that Mueller is in conflict...setting the stage to fire him and not be impeached.  If he fires him and the GOP doesnt turn on Trump, then the US is is really a lost nation.  But no way does Trump let his kids get charged without going scorched earth.

He'll try to pardon his kids and himself.  Fire Mueller.  etc

Surprised Tweeters has not said, "Paul will be fine, you won't have to worry about Paul."

I love that Trump's defense is basically "Paul was a crook way before I hired him to chair my campaign".  Maybe not the best defense.  He has to have lawyers telling him to shut up but he's so desperate he thinks he can change the narrative of the nation.  And maybe he can.

Is the meeting Papadopoulous being charged with lying about the same one that Kushner and Junior attended?  if not, it's still interesting to note he is pleading guilty to basically the same thing Junior did - lied about meeting Russians for the purpose of getting dirt on Hilary.  Junior will be indicted too.  Maybe Kushner also.  Will they take a bullet for daddy?  Trump is an old man but I have little doubt he'd let his kids go to prison to protect him.

 

Lack of ability to compromise...on slavery. 

23 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Surprised Tweeters has not said, "Paul will be fine, you won't have to worry about Paul."

Paul has the pardon papers in his wallet, ready to go.

 

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2 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

So much dumb from this administration... Either they are full blown gorked or they really think the average person is stupider than a bag of wet socks... either way **** these guys... 

WHy don't more people feel insulted... 

Rick Perry,  at coal fired power plant.

"“Here's a little economics lesson: supply and demand,” Perry said, according to Taylor Kuykendall of Standard & Poor's. “You put the supply out there, and demand will follow.”  :D

Re your query....
 

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"No one in this world, so far as I know — and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me — has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby. The mistake that is made always runs the other way. Because the plain people are able to speak and understand, and even, in many cases, to read and write, it is assumed that they have ideas in their heads, and an appetite for more. This assumption is a folly.”  

 

 

 

 

 

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I think I have it figured out.  Sessions will be forced out and replaced with a trump stooge who will then fire Mueller. 

 

well today is election day in some parts of the US (it's like pre-midterms or something)

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