HardCoreBlue

@Sard repeatedly asks to cite examples of extreme leftist violence and only gets I'm not even going to debate that.
We currently live in an environment where I can make allegations and respond in this fashion when called on it then play victim by shouting echo chamber mean and nasty lefties. 

The current norm:
I’m not accusing you of this, I’m just asking questions.
Translation:
Through a variety of communication modes, I can say and do anything I want to seed doubt and discord to generate a lot of revenue for a small group of people with little repercussions.

The current norm:
I’m not accusing you of this, I’m just asking questions.
Translation:
Through a variety of communication modes, I can say and do anything I want to seed doubt and discord to generate a lot of revenue for a small group of people with little repercussions.

I wish there was a heart reaction 

Ms, Turner said repeatedly that she had not had a good life. Her ex (Ike Turner) introduced her to heroin and also beat her savagely for years. She struggled with addiction and, from reports, was in and out of recovery over the years. She has now escaped the body that was her prison of pain for several years and perhaps is now at peace.

@Sard repeatedly asks to cite examples of extreme leftist violence and only gets I'm not even going to debate that.
We currently live in an environment where I can make allegations and respond in this fashion when called on it then play victim by shouting echo chamber mean and nasty lefties. 

Yes! Please do this, just do it well. Use evidence to backup your beliefs and admit when evidence proves your ideas faulty. A diversity of perspectives is great, but not a diversity in value for truth and logic. I honestly question how anyone can support the CPC or modern conservative parties and I would like to get an answer to that. Throwing out opinion and then not backing it up unfortunately confirms my ideas that it can't be backed up.
Rejecting fact and legitimate research shows that your perspective lacks credibility. If you truly believe in your arguments, take the time to show your work. Countless times you've been called out and haven't followed through. Your disregard when others post facts that clearly refute what you are saying says something about how your perspective is developed.

@Sard repeatedly asks to cite examples of extreme leftist violence and only gets I'm not even going to debate that.
We currently live in an environment where I can make allegations and respond in this fashion when called on it then play victim by shouting echo chamber mean and nasty lefties. 

What does one have to do with the other?
Well, nothing really, but....
I was trying to figure out why Twitter links aren't embedding (no answer on this yet), but while doing so I stumbled upon a feature I didn't know existed and enabled it.   In the tool bar when creating a post, there is now a GIF button.   This is an integration into https://giphy.com and provides a quick way to search for and embed GIFs.
Right in time for the new season and the game day GIF thread (if we decide to resurrect those).

There is little evidence of left/centrist advocacy of violence much less incidence. Fascists, by definition, hold violence as an integral option if not mandatory.  I have been a socialist supporter for over 50 years and have never heard any calls for violence. By not calling out right-wing/authoritarian statements and policies as fascist, you legitimize their positions as optional social discourse. The media in the US did not identify Trump as the fascist, gynophobic, amoral monster he is and always has been and that propelled him to power and his attempted coup. 

For the third time, what is the extreme-left?
 
I believe that the actions of some anti-fascism groups start to fall under what someone else referred to as the paradox of tolerance.

@Rich
Not trying to stir the pot. I mean that, I'm tired with all of this as well. The block function is a great thing. I'm sure some use it on me, please use that function if you don't want to here from me. Just highlighting something.
This is a perfect example of how you and I see the world differently.
Reading the many posts like the above embarrasses us and frustrates us but for very different reasons.
My observation is you will clump this post in with the other posts that are going back and forth with this poster as all the same crap, everyone's equally at fault, encourage all to look inwards and generalize what's going on without really dissecting the many things going on in the conversation. And you're right we should always look inwards and to some degree there are similarities here with us all.
But with respect, it's a lot more complicated and complex than you present it that has significant differences in levels of hypocrisies shown and the many different levels of what to tolerate and what can't be tolerated. It's a mess that needs to be untangled or we will never improve.
You may think not. That's okay. You choose to ignore. But its not okay to suggest it's all the same with equal amounts of crap going on and just get along. 
Unfortunately for ease it doesn't work that way. No sir.  
Counter away people. 🙂
 
 

This thread was supposed to last a couple of months.  

He's literally insane with Barron waiting in the wings.
 

@Rich
Not trying to stir the pot. I mean that, I'm tired with all of this as well. The block function is a great thing. I'm sure some use it on me, please use that function if you don't want to here from me. Just highlighting something.
This is a perfect example of how you and I see the world differently.
Reading the many posts like the above embarrasses us and frustrates us but for very different reasons.
My observation is you will clump this post in with the other posts that are going back and forth with this poster as all the same crap, everyone's equally at fault, encourage all to look inwards and generalize what's going on without really dissecting the many things going on in the conversation. And you're right we should always look inwards and to some degree there are similarities here with us all.
But with respect, it's a lot more complicated and complex than you present it that has significant differences in levels of hypocrisies shown and the many different levels of what to tolerate and what can't be tolerated. It's a mess that needs to be untangled or we will never improve.
You may think not. That's okay. You choose to ignore. But its not okay to suggest it's all the same with equal amounts of crap going on and just get along. 
Unfortunately for ease it doesn't work that way. No sir.  
Counter away people. 🙂
 
 

I don't block anyone.  As someone who needs to moderate the board, it isn't a luxury I have.  And even if I did block people, you aren't someone I would block.
You misunderstand my issues with how some people post here.
Criticizing and pointing out what is wrong with someone's post, is what a discussion should be about.
Doing so by calling people's names, slandering them, degenerating them, is not acceptable, under any circumstances.  You may disagree with that, you may think people are so horribly evil right now that they deserve whatever can be thrown at them, but that isn't acceptable on this board.   And if people want somewhere they can do that, they will have to go find somewhere else to do it.
I won't deny that I / we have not been consistent in letting the above behaviour go without stepping in.   The truth is I don't like moderating discussions.  I don't like editing posts, I don't like warning people, I don't like suspending or banning people.  I do at times get so fed up and frustrated with the state of things that I end up making a general post in anger like I did recently.  But things get to a tipping point and I'm not perfect either. In general, as moderators, we tend to err on the side of letting things slide.  The problem with that is things end up sliding further and further until it becomes a problem, and then a correction is needed.  We are probably in that correction state right now as people will come to see.
The alternative is always hard line moderating.  And I don't think anyone here really wants that to happen.  Well at least they don't want it to happen to them, only to other people.
I don't expect or want you to agree with everyone.  But if reading what someone else posts puts you (this is generic "you" people of the board, not HardCoreBlue specifically) over the edge so much that there is a repeating pattern where you can only respond in anger and name calling, or you think people as so evil that you are justified in how treating them badly, then ultimately you aren't welcome here and you will need to find somewhere else to post.  There ain't no shortage of places to go to behave like that on the internet.
At the end of the day, treat people civilly.  Make articulated arguments of why an opinion is wrong without name calling or making fun of people.  
To answer your earlier post, I do share your fear with where society is heading right now and opinions of certain groups of people.  But we are still a single country, and if we can so easily start to label a subsection of our fellow country people as crazy and simply not worthy and substandard human beings that whatever they say and do should just be dismissed outright, then the ultimate outcome is either a country that will be broken up / split / divided or that a country that stays as a single unit but one group will be no longer be treated as equals and humans.  And I can show you countless history examples of where that leads to.  I don't want either.   
I'm not saying I have the answers to this, because I don't.  I'm not perfect by any means, and not suggesting I have this figured out over you, but a quote I like to try and remember is this, A true test of character is not how you act on your best days but how you act on your most difficult days.
That doesn't mean being a push over, that doesn't mean accepting dangerous thoughts when you see it.  It means how you behave in what you do when you see it.
 
 

We need more of this no matter who you are to recalibrate the nonsense going on in this world of ours:
FAFO.
 

We need more of this no matter who you are to recalibrate the nonsense going on in this world of ours:
FAFO.
 

We need more of this no matter who you are to recalibrate the nonsense going on in this world of ours:
FAFO.
 

To be fair, those kids really should get off his lawn

nailed it with this.
His (or her) posts are devoid of facts, actual verified numbers.   just strong opinions. on and on and on ad nauseum.
odd.
 

So much this. As a conservative voter for the first 30 years I was allowed to vote it has been hard to move away from some of the ideals I believe in. It took a lot of reading and education to realize that the conservatives I once supported no longer exist. If I was to search back to the time of the last federal election I am pretty sure I would find a comment that I felt like a political orphan, no party represents what my personal beliefs are and I am left to vote for who supports my most important beliefs. One thing I absolutely cannot support is hatred, I have always told my son there are only 2 things that are worth the emotional investment of hatred; war and racism. If you hate something other than that you really need to examine if that is the best of yourself and if you wouldn’t be energy spent better elsewhere. It was a massive change for me when I moved from hating the Riders to now the pity I feel for them… It is fun taking the shots and mocking them, but really only because they keep doing it to themselves…

We need more of this no matter who you are to recalibrate the nonsense going on in this world of ours:
FAFO.