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Another interpretation could be that people are falsely saying they DID travel when they didn’t, because even with symptoms they won’t be tested if they haven’t travelled, so they lie to get the test done.

Who (if pressed for the truth) says some don’t exist already?

https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-panthers-leapfrog-maple-leafs-in-atlantic-central-division-battle-heats-up After missing a day in quarantine, THN renewed its simulated season. March 23 - The Wild pulled off a big win to push for the final wild card spot, gaining on the Canucks who lose. Calgary also wins, beating San Jose, and with that loss California will not be represented in the playoffs as the San Jose Sharks are eliminated. Also of note, Toronto is now outside the playoff line as Florida leapfrogs them into 3rd in the Atlantic. March 24 - The Jets squander a chance to virtually guarantee a wild card spot, losing 6-2 to the Predators. Still, they hold a 4 point edge on the pack behind them. The only other game of consequence in the West has the Stars lose. Two other clubs settled their fate in the East, as a win over the Blues means the Washington Capitals have clinched a playoff spot, while a loss to Buffalo means the Montreal Canadiens are eliminated.

Well, considering that Mosca (a) told him to shove the peace offering flower up his ass, (b) swatted it away when offered it a second time, and (c) swung a metal cane at Kapp's face (and connected enough to knock his glasses off) in response to having a flower swatted in his face, he got what he deserved IMO.

March 22 - https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-ovechkin-hat-trick-downs-penguins-jets-snaps-stars-streak Go Jets Go! Wish the real season was going as well as the simulated one, as the Jets down the red-hot sim Stars 4-1 to move within 4 points of 3rd in the Central, while opening up a 4 point lead on the Canucks for the top wild card spot. In fact, Winnipeg has more points than the #2 and 3 teams in the Pacific. Other big games see the Preds lose to Chicago to fall 6 back of Winnipeg, while the Coyotes win and are 8 behind the Jets and 4 out of the wild card chase (so is Chicago). Also, a Hurricanes loss to the Islanders means that the Boston Bruins clinch a playoff spot, and it also eliminates the New Jersey Devils and the Buffalo Sabres. Finally, a loss means the Los Angeles Kings are eliminated.

Here are numbers from Johns Hopkins’ website, which along with the WHO is a reputable site for accurate reporting (according to medical professionals and health experts who are on the front lines of dealing with this - full disclosure, I am married to one of those health professionals in this Province). Remember a couple of weeks back when Trump said they had 5 cases in the USA and would be at zero by April? Well four days ago they had 9,000 cases and 130 deaths. Three days ago it was 12,000 and 155 or so deaths. Two days ago it jumped to 14,250 and 205 deaths. Yesterday it was 19,000 and 260. As of now it is 25,500 cases and 307 deaths. That progression is the problem. Numbers are artificially low as well since there isn’t full testing yet. So cases are climbing at a rate of around 33% daily now and deaths are jumping at a rate of around 25%. Italy was at 3,000 deaths two days ago and are now at 4,800. That’s a 60% jump in two days. They had 41,000 cases yesterday and 58,000 today. So first of all, spare me the “flu has many more deaths than this in a year” BS. We are basically two weeks into the exponential growth stage. Extrapolate over a year without the “hype and overreaction” of locking down cities and guess where we end up? At a 30% progression rate, in one week from today the US has gone from 25,500 cases to 166,000. Fortunately the US death rate is about 1.3% of all cases, not the global rate of around 3.5-4 %, or Italy’s 8.5%, so we are talking “only” 2,150 dead next week, so yeah a 700% increase in one week. Canada is doing slightly better per capita, but the growth is similar. Or we can all quarantine and hope to slow those numbers. And since my spouse is essential services and treating those who have or will get this virus which has no known vaccines, and since the powers that be don’t have or bother to have proper filtered masks for those who test due to short supply, I’ll see your high risk with my family’s own. It is very personal and real to me. So excuse me if “I. Don’t. Give. You. A. Break.”, f*ck you very much. I don’t need another person who could infect my spouse walking around because they think this is all hype. At the very least, get off these boards and stop downplaying the risk. Sorry to everyone else for hijacking the thread. I'll keep my further comments to the COVID-19 thread.

Came across this while web surfing. The Hockey News has taken to the gaming world to see how the regular season would have finished up in a simulated exercise. Using EA Sports NHL 20, they have played all of the suspended games to track how teams would finish up the aborted regular season. Injuries have not been accounted for, so rioters are not completely accurate, but it is the best we have right now. As of March 11, the West wildcard race and the relevant players were as follows: Dallas 82 PTS, 69 GP (3RD Cen.) 😃 Calgary 79 PTS, 70 GP (3RD Pac.) 😃 Winnipeg 80 PTS, 71 GP (1 WC) 😃 Nashville 78 PTS 69 GP (2 WC) 😃 Vancouver 78 PTS, 69 GP 😩 Minnesota 77 PTS, 69 GP 😩 Arizona 74 PTS, 70 GP 😩 Chicago 72 PTS, 70 GP 😩 Here is how the games have gone since the season was halted: March 12 and 13 - https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-what-would-happen-if-the-nhl-continued-to-play-behind-close-doors Of note, Stars, Wild, Flames (in OT) win, Preds lose, and Coyotes beat Canucks on the 12th. On the 13th, Canucks win, Hawks lose. Canucks now in the 2 WC spot , Preds out. March 14 - https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-flyers-stay-white-hot-in-pursuit-of-top-spot-in-metropolitan-division Hawks lose and are really out of the running now, great night for the Jets who beat Calgary 7-4, and see the Preds, Wild, and Coyotes lose. Stars win. March 15 - https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-power-shifts-in-the-metropolitan-wilds-wild-comeback-puts-playoffs-in-sight Jets lose 4-2 in Vancouver, and the Wild beat the reeling Preds. Canucks now 3rd in Pac., Jets 1 WC, Flames 2 WC, with Minny 1 point out. And the Ottawa Senators are officially eliminated in the East. March 16 - https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-rangers-continue-push-for-playoff-spot-blue-jackets-get-breathing-room-in-wild-card-race Flames get a loser point, Dallas beat Arizona. And the Oilers are falling back into the wild card chase, although they still stand 2nd in the Pac. March 17 - https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-streaking-stars-in-hunt-for-home-ice-advantage-blues-get-last-minute-win Jets beat Florida 3-2 to solidify their 1 WC spot with the Flames and Wild both losing. Stars keep winning to hold on to 3rd in Cen. March 18 - https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-mcdavid-shreds-senators-as-oilers-pull-within-three-points-of-pacific-lead Canucks lose, Coyotes win. No change in the WC chase, Jets-wise. March 19 - https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-capitals-stretch-metro-lead-in-fiery-affair-game-of-the-night-debuts Flames and Preds win, Wild lose. Calgary now 3rd Pac., Jets 1 WC, Canucks 2 WC. Wild 1 point out of 8th, 3 behind Winnipeg. Preds 4 back of the Jets with a game in hand. St. Louis Blues become the first team to clinch a playoff spot. March 20 - https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-bishop-steals-one-for-stars-lightning-down-oilers-in-13-goal-thriller Surprise starter Laurent Brossoit earns a massive win as the Jets beat the Wild 5-2. Coyotes lose, Canucks and Stars win, and Oilers lose in OT. Anaheim Ducks are officially eliminated. March 21 - https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/simulating-the-season-lightning-gain-on-bruins-in-presidents-trophy-race-kings-frk-sets-nhl-record Preds win, Canucks lose, Flames get an OT loss point. No change in the wild card chase. So that's it up to today. Will post daily as THN runs their sims.

I clicked on the twitter thread. I’m not sure what the most startling thing about this is. That she has actual press credentials, that someone didn’t punch her when she asked that question, the answer Trump gave, or that the comments section on Twitter is so full of people who think she is a hero for outing the corrupt media. I am continually surprised at how many Americans side with Trump and buy what he says without question when all it takes to show he is incompetent is to run his own words against him a few weeks later. Either Americans have really been brainwashed by the propaganda machine operating down there, or America is still 100 times more sexist, racist, science doubting, women’s rights hating than one could imagine for a country in the 21st century. Either option does not bode well for November.

Trump is now referring to himself as a wartime President. Always good for a popularity poll boost in the USA. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/donald-trump-wartime-president-coronavirus/index.html

Trump is now referring to himself as a wartime President. Always good for a popularity poll boost in the USA. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/politics/donald-trump-wartime-president-coronavirus/index.html Sorry, will re-post this in the US Politics page. Mods can delete if they`d like.

Or Canada (at least Manitoba). Until everyone gets tested, not just those who have symptoms AND travelled abroad (the criteria right now) the numbers will be artificially low.

True, the trade-off for letting extra teams into the playoffs is that the draft lottery gets extended to all teams, like the year after the lockout.

My favorite modified playoff scenario of the proposals that are out there is that this year the regular season is done right now, and all 31 teams make the playoffs. Teams 18-31 (the bottom 14) have a one game play-in at the home rink of the higher seeded team. 31 vs 18, 30 vs 19, etc. Teams 1-17 get a bye for this round. The winners of those single games then play teams seeded 9th through 15th (7 series in total), with the 9th vs the lowest remaining seed, 10th vs 2nd lowest remaining, and so on. Also, the 16th seed vs 17th seed. All of those series are best-of-3, higher seed gets the extra home game. Teams 1-8 get a bye through this round as well. Next round is seeds 1 through 8 playing off against the winners of those best-of-3, again with the highest vs lowest seed. This time it is a best-of-5. From there onward, best-of-7 series with the highest vs lowest seeds until the Stanley Cup is awarded. Overall an extra round of playoffs but the total maximum number of games for any one team only goes from 28 to 30. Given that right now only Detroit has been mathematically eliminated, it seems the fairest way not to arbitrarily eliminate teams that are still in the running and counted on a late push to make the playoffs (Jets are a prime example, sitting in the #1 wild card spot in the actual standings but based on percentage points are in fact .001 out of a playoff spot behind Calgary, who are #3 in the Pacific but would slide to the #2 wild card based on percentages).

Here is another one straight from the horse's (ass) mouth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch7_t2Ri2Zg The most aggravating thing is that none of this will make any difference to vast numbers of Americans. Almost none of them (won't say all because one FOX host actually said "I underestimated how serious it was") will own their blatant lies and say "I was wrong", and will spin that this came out of the blue and no one could have predicted it, and the MAGA masses will believe it, or at least accept it. And they will hypocritically rail against the demon that is socialism while praying that the banks forgive their mortgages and loans for 6 months and the government will give them each a $1000 cheque a month to keep them afloat, and that there will be enough tests and ventilators for everyone RIGHT NOW that they don't have to pay through the nose for, and not see that what they demand as an entitlement from their government in times of need is what they rail against on the campaign trail. And there is no educating them on their folly. Because they live in an all-or-nothing world, where ANY gun control means ALL our guns will be confiscated, where ANY social assistance (EI, social security, food stamps) means that ALL the lazy people will abuse this handout.

Pallister also slashed the number of ICU beds. That could easily come back to bite him.

I hear Saskatchewan has plenty of toilet paper to spare.

Not looking for an example of what has NOT been said. You have said that media is pushing the “banning travel from other countries is racist” theme. Please cite an example.

Again, could you cite an actual example of this?

So a new claim going around on Twitter is that Trump rejected the WHO testing kits so that they could be privatized. Fisher is being touted as the new private company manufacturing the tests and Trump supposedly has stock in that company. Another aspect is that with private testing, an FOIA request cannot be made to disclose the number of tests performed and the number of positive results, which could then underreport the real numbers of those affected. Now I have no proof of this claim so I’d like confirm or refute it with evidence, so I invite all those who know to offer evidence for or against it. I do note one key aspect of the Trump presser yesterday was the presence of businessmen from Target, Walmart, Walgreens, and Google involved with the battle against the virus and them being invited to speak as opposed to hordes of medical scientists.

When a Chinese billionaire does more in one day than the US Government in 2 months. https://www.businessinsider.com/jack-ma-pledges-to-ship-coronavirus-tests-masks-to-us-2020-3 But "Boooooo, globalism!"

Yeah, nice try, but no.

Below is a timeline of Trump’s comments discussing the threat posed by the virus. Compiled by the Washington Post and various Twitter feeds - Jan. 22: “We have it totally under control.” Jan. 24: “It will all work out well.” “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!” Jan. 29: “Just received a briefing on the Coronavirus in China from all of our GREAT agencies, who are also working closely with China. We will continue to monitor the ongoing developments. We have the best experts anywhere in the world, and they are on top of it 24/7!” Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five. And those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for it. So that I can assure you.” Feb. 2: “Well, we pretty much shut it down coming in from China. … We can’t have thousands of people coming in who may have this problem, the coronavirus. So we’re gonna see what happens, but we did shut it down, yes.” Feb. 7: “Nothing is easy, but [Chinese President Xi Jinping] … will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone.” “....he will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone. Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads what will be a very successful operation. We are working closely with China to help!” Feb. 10: “I think the virus is going to be — it’s going to be fine.” Feb. 14: “We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.” Feb. 19: “I think it’s going to work out fine. I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus. So let’s see what happens, but I think it’s going to work out fine.” Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. … Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” Feb. 25: “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They’re all getting better. … As far as what we’re doing with the new virus, I think that we’re doing a great job.” “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus, including the very early closing of our borders to certain areas of the world.” Feb. 26: “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low. … When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. That’s a pretty good job we’ve done." “Q: This is spreading — or is going to spread, maybe, within communities. That’s the expectation. A: It may. It may. Q: Does that worry you? A: No. ... No, because we’re ready for it. It is what it is. We’re ready for it. We’re really prepared. ... We hope it doesn’t spread. There’s a chance that it won’t spread too, and there’s a chance that it will, and then it’s a question of at what level.” “We’re going very substantially down, not up.” Feb. 27: “Only a very small number in U.S., & China numbers look to be going down. All countries working well together!” Feb. 28: “I think it’s really going well. We did something very fortunate: we closed up to certain areas of the world very, very early — far earlier than we were supposed to. I took a lot of heat for doing it. It turned out to be the right move, and we only have 15 people and they are getting better, and hopefully they’re all better. There’s one who is quite sick, but maybe he’s gonna be fine. … We’re prepared for the worst, but we think we’re going to be very fortunate." “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” Feb. 29: “We’re the number-one travel destination anywhere in the world, yet we have far fewer cases of the disease than even countries with much less travel or a much smaller population.” March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don’t think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on Corona?” “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.” March 4: “Some people will have this at a very light level and won’t even go to a doctor or hospital, and they’ll get better. There are many people like that.” “If you have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work – some of them go to work, but they get better.” March 5: “I NEVER said that people that are feeling sick should go to work.” “With approximately 100,000 CoronaVirus cases worldwide, and 3,280 deaths, the United States, because of quick action on closing our borders, has, as of now, only 129 cases (40 Americans brought in) and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!” March 6: “We did an interview on Fox last night, a town hall. I think it was very good. And I said, ‘Calm. You have to be calm. It’ll go away.' ” “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.” “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful… the tests are perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.” “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President.” “I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn’t our fault” March 7: “It came out of China, and we heard about it. And made a good move: We closed it down; we stopped it. Otherwise — the head of CDC said last night that you would have thousands of more problems if we didn’t shut it down very early. That was a very early shutdown, which is something we got right." March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine-tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.” March 9: “The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation, far beyond what the facts would warrant. Surgeon General, ‘The risk is low to the average American.’ ” “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!” “This blindsided the world.” March 10: “As you know, it’s about 600 cases, it’s about 26 deaths, within our country. And had we not acted quickly, that number would have been substantially more.” “And it hit the world. And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.” March 11: “I think we’re going to get through it very well.” March 12: “It’s going to go away. ... The United States, because of what I did and what the administration did with China, we have 32 deaths at this point … when you look at the kind of numbers that you’re seeing coming out of other countries, it’s pretty amazing when you think of it.” March 13: “Topic: CoronaVirus!”

"Topic: CoronaVirus!" Well, at least he's not being glib about it. Seriously, sounds like he's announcing a surprise birthday party.

Merci. I bow to the superior historian. I really should have known that would be Zontar’s avatar. Makes total sense - both get shot down in flames.