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Wow, judging by the comments people seem to have forgotten our "guaranteed" victory against "non-formidable" foe Marcus Crandell in the 2001 Grey Cup. Beware the rope-a-dope, people.

Careful now, you can't just go and turn over random cars on a whim, fuelled by nothing but emotion. You want to warm up and train for that kind of thing, otherwise you might pull an oblique muscle or something.

I'll lead off saying the losses seem more memorable than the wins. Glory is fleeting, pain endures. And 1984 Grey Cup was glorious but I was too young to understand the 22 year drought and the agony of losing to the Eskimos for so many years leading up to that win, so it isn't quite as meaningful to me. I think the next Grey Cup win will have more impact because of this current dry spell. But if pressed I think the 1988 Grey Cup is likely at the top, given how it came about (the 1987 team was supposed to be there and crapped the bed at home in the East Final, in 1988 very few bothered to show up for the division semi against Hamilton because everyone figured we were going to lose in Toronto the next week, and the way the Grey Cup unfolded with us being heavy underdogs, with punting of all things keeping us in it, and "the Immaculate Interception" being that signature play from that signature game sticks with me forever. The Matt Dunigan 713 game and Milt's Commonwealth 100 yard last play miracle rank up there for pure spectacle, but this moment seemed bigger. As for losses, a few jump out, like the 2007 Grey Cup (because Sask for the first time ever and a stupid broken arm that really killed our chances when we would have been favoured), the 1987 East Final (NOTHING went our way that day, we looked inept after being a machine on offence all year), and the 1994 East Final at home to Baltimore (14-12 loss in still the best football game I have ever watched live, where fumbles that weren't fumbles, non-fumbles that were, cross bars breaking up TD passes, a blown fake field goal, illegal shoe controversy, and every break going against us led to an agonizing last minute loss on a long field goal that grazed the cross bar), and 52-0 on Labour Day (the humiliating low point of the Mack era) but two rise above those. One is of course the 2001 Grey Cup, since we fell so flat after being so much better than every other team that season, compounded by the fact that we lost to a team with a losing record that we let get into the playoffs in the last week by resting our starters. Then hearing about how arrogant the team had been all week and how they did not really take the opposition seriously, and all the partying and "ring sizing" they did before the game was infuriating. The final insult is that it had been 11 years without a Cup at that point, and knowing now that it would stretch to 29 and counting and this was such a missed opportunity, completely galling. The only thing missing is the "revenge" factor to put this at the top. And so, surprisingly, the one loss that really irks me more than all others was the West semi in 1996 against the Eskimos. The end of the Cal Murphy era was the most humiliating end possible. 68-7. They went out of their way to pile up the score, and then hearing how they blatantly cheated with illegal shoes and got away with it when it was so obvious all game to everyone but the blind refs that they were using trickery was maddening. This is the one loss I want revenge for, because I feel we didn't just lose, we didn't just get embarrassed on a historic level, but that we lost that badly because were cheated out of it and they got away with it.

So Speedflex posted this in the "WF Bombers @ Riders" thread: This is my ultimate revenge game as a fan. Who else remembers the 1972 Western Final? Who the teams were? Where they finished in the standings? The horrible way the Bombers lost that game? For us old timers with lonnnnnnnnng memories, just how glorious will it be if we beat the Riders in their home park? In front of their fans? And how good will it feel for us to break their hearts??? The teams are the same but the standings reversed. They're hosting instead of us. Pressure is on them to win in front of their own fans in their House in front of a big crowd. I've waited 47 years for this game. Please Bombers, wash the stench of that loss in 1972 away finally. FINALLY!!! This has been brewing in him for 47 years, this match is not just a playoff game, not just a game against our most hated rival, not just another chance to get to the Grey Cup and end the streak, this is REVENGE. This got me to thinking - what one win in Bomber history have you each cherished more than any other, and what one loss has burned worse than any other? What is the pinnacle moment, the signature game that you will carry with you forever? Is it just a great moment, a historic victory, or does it carry something even more profound? (think Donovan Bailey winning the 100M gold in Atlanta - glorious moment, but because of what went down in Seoul in 1988 with Ben Johnson, made it all the much more sweet. Not just that he won, but that the whole country found redemption) What factors raised the win to an even greater emotional high than normal? Likewise, what loss stings more than any other, and more importantly, why? I know a bit about the 1972 loss, mainly the end. This was the first time we'd hosted the West final since 1962 (and amazingly, the 1972 game is the last time we have hosted the West Final at all!). For anyone unfamiliar with the result and more importantly the circumstances, here is the synopsis: Had a good lead heading into the half I believe, and Sask. tied it up and went for a game winning FG. I'll let Wikipedia pick it up from here - This game was especially notable for its final play. The game was tied and Saskatchewan attempted a last-second field goal to win, or at least score a single. The kick missed wide, and was recovered by Winnipeg in the end zone. As they were unable to run it out, they punted. The Saskatchewan player who fielded the punt attempted to score a single (winning the game) by punting it through the end zone again, but was unsuccessful, and the punt was fielded by Winnipeg, who punted it out again. The Saskatchewan returner was tackled, ending the play and presumably the game, but a Winnipeg penalty for no yards negated the play and gave Saskatchewan another chance. The second Saskatchewan field goal attempt, with no time on the clock, was successful. So I'd love to hear from folks what one win and/or one loss have you never let go of?

That is all.

#1 rushing offence. #1 rushing defence. Best running back in the league. QB who is on a 4 game winning streak against Calgary. Beat defensive player in the game. Best o-lineman in the game the last 3 years. Eric Rogers won’t be playing for Calgary. Dominant special teams against Calgary all year.

And I was just noticing that the "me" is there only if you read it backwards (apply backwards thinking) and acknowledge that the letters are on either side of the A (embracing the a-hole, as it were). Does that literal deconstruction of the wordplay without the subliminal subtext satisfy you, or is there another double entendre you would like to break down to remove any humour and larger point from?

Don't you love it when fans on an internet board know better than the head coach about player deployment? FWIW, here's Paul Maurice (of 700+ NHL wins fame) and his thoughts on fan input (go to 1:22 left in the video). https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/hours-paul-maurice-reaching-700-wins-nhl-head-coach/

If you are prepared to think backwards and embrace the a-hole.

Next curiosity - when the CFLPA all-star team comes out, do Harris’s peers vote him in or not? There have been some vocal critics who have thrown shade from the players’ side.

So Andrew Harris got voted in as an all-star at running back. This would suggest that the media outside of Winnipeg would not have had the moral quandary of voting for him as outstanding player or Canadian that the 3 media members in the city did. curious if Wyman, Hamilton and Bauming did or did not vote for Harris for the all-star team. Not sure how they could given their prior position.

Also known as Don Draper from Mad Men.

So ahead of the team nominees announcements this week, any thoughts as to who you would choose, and who should advance and win? My picks: MOP BC - Bryan Burnham, Cal - Reggie Begelton, Edm - Trevor Harris (even with 5 games missed), Sask - Cody Fajardo, Wpg - Andrew Harris (will get through the Winnipeg vote despite the suspension) Ham - Brandon Banks, Tor - McLeod Bethel-Thompson edges out S.J. Green, Ott - Dominique Rhymes, Mtl - Vernon Adams Jr. Fajardo (sorry 17to85, he will get it) vs. Banks in the finals, Banks takes the prize MODP BC - Garry Peters, Cal - Tre Roberson, Edm - Vontae Diggs, Sask - Charleston Hughes, Wpg - Willie Jefferson (although Winston Rose would be a decent candidate in other years) Ham - Simoni Lawrence (although Ja'Gared Davis is a strong candidate too), Tor - Abdul Kanneh, Ott - Anthony Cioffi, Mtl - John Bowman (lifetime achievement award) Whomever of Roberson, Hughes and Jefferson (my choice by a hair) comes out of the west beats Lawrence in the final vote MOC BC - Lemar Durant, Cal - Cory Greenwood, Edm - Kwaku Boateng, Sask - Cameron Judge, Wpg - Andrew Harris Ham - Ted Laurent (name recognition over Tunde Adeleke's stats), Tor - Cleyon Laing, Ott - Brad Sinopoli (despite a really down year), Mtl - Henoc Muamba If Harris survives the PED vote of conscience, he is a lock to win. If not Judge vs. Laing (barely over Muamba) and give it to the 'Rider. MOOL How the hell should I know? It won't be a Lion, that's for sure. Bombers are probably in good given their rushing dominance. MOR I'll defer to 3downnation and their assessment: https://3downnation.com/2019/10/18/each-teams-top-three-candidates-for-most-outstanding-rookie/ I think Lawler may edge out Exume for the Bombers given his late season success, but the finals is likely Holley of Calgary vs. Acklin of Hamilton. Unless the Stamps finish 3rd in the west, I see Holley being the vote. MOST BC - Sergio Castillo, Edm - Sean Whyte, Cal - Terry Williams, Sask - Jon Ryan, Wpg - Janarion Grant Ham - Frankie Williams, Tor - Chris Rainey, Ott - Richie Leone, Mtl - Boris Bede Grant was the best for the time he played, but with only 11 games and few kick returns, I sense he will not make the final cut. It will be Williams vs. Williams with Frankie taking the win (and shout out to Chris Rainey for a strong 3rd place finish)

I reiterate what I said in my opening post in this thread. And “bench” was precisely the word I intended to use.

When exactly did Medlock look uncomfortable?

FIFY

Nichols is a free agent this off season and the trade deadline passed already, so even objectively that statement lacks intelligence. And after what we’ve seen on the field, if you think Streveler is still a better option than Nichols, then subjectively this statement is dumb too.

Yeah, we have to fire O’Shea. Can’t say what I want to, but it rhymes with yuck foo.

Thought only on QB

You can’t challenge that

Long snapper Couture got knocked over while defenceless on the concert snap. Another missed penalty.

Rule #1, when you have a teenage daughter, don’t count on getting anywhere early.

I wouldn’t worry. I’m sure the guy with 6 boxes under his arms will have a few of them up on eBay tomorrow for $40 each.

Sorry to say they were sold out at my gate when I arrived 15 minutes before the game. But some people had 4 or 5, so I’m sure someone has an extra somewhere.