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What about Jon Murphy? Or is that unlikely even with a new regime here under MIller and different members on the BOD. Would Murphy come back for the right price. Not that it will matter for this year. Walters will get another year regardless of how the rest of this season goes. We all know it. Miller pretty much confirmed that now on Hustler and Lawless today - Walters will get his 3 years to make the team a competitor...I 'll leave that to all of you to define what a competitor is.

From what you've seen with Marve, with coaching and reps, does he have the talent to be a legitimate CFL QB? Too soon to tell. He needs more game reps. But if we remember Reilly's first year with the Esks. Most wouldn't have expected much more out of him. Is this a joke? Reilly threw for 4000 yards that year. He is probably referring to Reilly's first 5 or 6 games in which he failed to throw for 200 yards...I think in all of them. With that said, he was not nearly as bad in any of those 6 games as Marve was last week and his production improved dramatically for the rest of the season.

Hey if you get offended being compared to Nasty Nate don't offend O'Shea comparing him to Burke. He is a way better coach than Burke could ever hope to be. I don't see the evidence that O'Shea is better than Burke. They were both good coordinators with bad head coaching records. Other than style, what's the difference? I don't see the players quitting on O'Shea. They gave up on Burke entirely. Yeah the team right now has a hard time rebounding from a couple poor plays, but it's different than a team that just packs it in entirely. I mean just looking at that Calgary game, the defense fought tooth and nail in the first half to try and give the offense all the chances they needed to win but the execution simply wasn't there on offence. With Burke the team visibly checked out about 5 minutes into a game. The team visibly folded after that interception for a TD early in the second half. The game was still in reach but after the following 2 and out, the defense allowed Calgary to march down the entire field. Then they did it again and again. The team quit...don't handle adversity well. See the 4 blowouts in 9 games already. Very Burkian-like

People need to give up the idea that the Argos will trade Ray this season even when he does come back from injury. It's rare to have good two Qbs to rely on and that appears to be what the Argos will have in the stretch run. That will help if one begins to struggle or is injured. The argos will run with both all the way through the playoffs and probably lose Ray in the off season.

A failed special teams coach with limited contacts down south. Who would have guessed he would end up being one of if not the worst Gm in the league? Apparently our president didn't after the extensive off season search for a gm in 2013

Tater's thoughts. http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/bombers/Watching-film-no-answer-323347221.html They’ll watch the film. Oh, will they watch the film all right. In fact, they’ll watch the hell out of it in the next few days. That’s what the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, to a man, spit out ad nauseum after every defeat. They won’t point fingers, they won’t call anybody out publicly. Well, we can spare them the time and the effort: this is not a good football team and nobody needs to press play, pause or rewind on Saturday’s 36-8 loss to the Calgary Stampeders to reach that conclusion.And — absolutely under no circumstances — do they make any kind of blanket statements or rash judgements until they meticulously go over the videotape evidence. The Bombers skidded to the midway point of the 2015 season at 3-6 with the latest in a series of stink bombs dropped at Investors Group Field. Oh sure, they were without their starting quarterback, tailback, deep threat and centre in Saturday night’s massacre. And, yes, there is still a half season of football left to be played. But here’s a number to munch on while we all play coroner over the next few days and attempt to determine the latest cause of death for a franchise again in a serious nosedive: Since opening 2014 at 5-1, this football team has gone 5-16 over its last 21 games. Roll that around again one more time, Bomber fans, and then spit. Look, if it’s true that there is no sin worse than losing in professional football, then we’d tack on this addendum when it comes to the Bombers: there’s no sin worse than losing AND being boring at the same time. And Saturday’s contest in south Winnipeg had zilch-o entertainment value. Robert Marve & Co. amassed just 135 yards net offence, the longest play from scrimmage only 15 yards. There were too many penalties and too many breakdowns in what has become an all too predictable result.

I thought a few weeks ago you were placing some of the blame on MB for terrible pass protection of the QB..or maybe I'm mistaken?

I don't have the optimism to believe that keeping Willy healthy under Marcel's protection scheme is a sustainable plan for the future. Marve was juking and jiving to avoid being tackled in the "death pocket", without that mobility he would have been sacked at least 4 more times. IT must be something with the pass protection schemes. All that money and changeover to the offensive line and it 's still as bad as ever.

He signed a new deal with Toronto and will never eeeever come here. Why. So he can be fired in 2 years?No, so he can become a GM at the twice the salary of a HC.Never eeeever. Pointless to talk about even. Never in a million years. Good coaches won't come here. No security at all. What a load of garbage. Hamilton fired two coaches in one year (Marcel and Cortez) and they ended up snagging Austin. Looks like you can go through coaches quickly and still make a quality hire provided you are willing to pay the price.

Didn't Burke have an even more pathetic OC in Garry Crowton? Why is Marcel an excuse for the blowouts under O'Shea, but Crowton is not an excuse for blowouts under Burke?

So did I. That was good time to be a youngster cheering on the blue and gold. Almost every home game was a victory. Brock, Clements, Dunigan - all those teams had great offenses. Heck even the Salisbury teams were decent on offense not like this sad sack bunch. And man, those defenses in the 80s... just dominant. I think we went a nearly 20-year stretch of making the playoffs.

Seems like the defense gave up in the second half. Total time of possession was dead even so they shouldn't have been tired.

I have seen it said here that Bomber teams led by Mike O'Shea do not give up fighting until the very end and rarely, if ever, getting blown out by the opposition vs. Tim Burke led Bomber teams that were consistently blown out by opposition with players quitting on the coach and themselves. Looking back at the 2013 season (Burke's only full season as coach) the Bombers lost games by more than 2 Tds nine times, lost games by 20 or more points five times and lost games by 26 or more points three times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Winnipeg_Blue_Bombers_season We are only half way through the 2015 season and the Bombers have lost games by two tds, 20 or more points, and 26 or more points four times. 52-26 vs. Hamilton 32-3 vs. Edmonton 38-8 vs. Hamilton 36-8 vs. Calgary We have half a season to go but it appears the myth of a never-say-die, never-give up-attitude of the Bombers under Mike O'Shea has been busted. The lopsided scores posted above in just half a season proves it. Agree or disagree and why?

lol because that works in the CFL like never. When you have only 2 chances to gain 10 yards, the majority of plays will be passes. Even with a rookie Qb, you will most likely have a 65% pass to 35% run ratio, maybe 60-40 in a few cases. It's a passer's league - even rookie Qb's need to be able to pass. Did you miss last weeks game against the Riders? A heck of a lot closer than this smelling pile tonight with that very game plan. Congrats on finding the one game in which passes and runs were nearly 50-50. Riders still lost by the way. It's a fact that the vast majority of games will see runs less than 40% of the time, even with a rookie at the controls. That is the nature of the 3-down game. Saying the Bombers should have run it 30 times is asinine as they most likely would have been stuffed on first down for a short gain necessitating a pass play on second down. I'm afraid if you want to see more running you will have to watch the NFL.

Fire Miller?

Reilly's first season was better than anything we have seen from Marve. Reilly can throw a long bomb. Marve clearly cannot...at least not yet. Chances are though if he never learned to throw a long bomb in college he will be unable to learn in the pros.

lol because that works in the CFL like never. When you have only 2 chances to gain 10 yards, the majority of plays will be passes. Even with a rookie Qb, you will most likely have a 65% pass to 35% run ratio, maybe 60-40 in a few cases. It's a passer's league - even rookie Qb's need to be able to pass.

Walters gets a lot of free passes and truthfully I blame the state of this team on him even more than O'Shea. Grading on a curve, Walters would rank near the bottom of the league's gms

I thought this team fought for their head coach unlike the 2013 team with Tim Burke at the reigns? Doesn't seem like it this year. 4 blowout losses already.

Yep, the best we have done since the Cal Murphy era is Taman bringing in already developed Qbs in Jones and Glenn. Bombers haven't developed a good QB since McManus. Haven't developed even an average Qb in that time frame either

Now the Argos are starting to look like a Creehan-led defense.

His last name would open him up to all sorts of ridicule here. We already have Willy for that. No deal.

This is kind of an argument for ranking calgary low The Stamps OL shouldn't be ranked 9th. BLM would be sacked incessantly & beaten to a pulp but he's not. The team wouldn't be 6-2 if the line wasn't doing a good job. Thing of it is, only Stanley Bryant the right tackle won't be coming back this season but the rest of the injured starters will be back come playoff time. So, they'll be good to go again. And... those backups who played & are playing well will have a whole bunch of experience & will be ready to be called on again if needed. Sad part is, some of our starters would have a hard time making the Stamps playing roster. The Stamps OL was decimated the past 2 years with the departure of Jon Gott, Stanley Bryant & Brent Jones. Now the injuries this season to Edwin Harrison, Dan Federkeil, Shane Bergman & Brander Craighead who were all starters. Guys like Brad Erdos, John Estes, Gary Williams & even Paul Swiston have stepped in & played well. Considering this was not even close to the OL the Stamps had starting the season they've done a very good job. Depth & talent has got the Stamps by. Why the hell don't we have that? The Stamps basically rebuilt their O Line since the start of this season. Why is it taking half a decade & counting to rebuild ours?? I can tell you why. The Stamps have the best personnel guy in the CFL who we fired in John Murphy. He knows the CIS cold as well as every free agent out there. He has contacts everywhere & he uses them. That's why. It's amazing the talent he brings in. We had him & now he's in Calgary helping to make them a championship team. John Murphy has been rumoured to become a GM in the CFL for a few years now. I wonder which team gives him that opportunity and when?

Still thousands of $399 and $299 tickets left in the upper deck. Also tickets are held back for corporations with the option to purchase seats up to certain deadlines. That is one of the reasons you often see hundreds of tickets being released in prime spots for various events including past Grey CUps in the weeks leading up to the event. Happened at BC place and Mosaic last year. Bombers had to pay the league over $5 million for the game this year so I suspect the profits will not be as great as they had hoped.

The bombers discounted Grey Cup tickets in 1998 so they may very well do it again this year.