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It's not being spun anyway. People wanted to cheer for Buck because he was a class act. Yeah, he wasn't a very good QB for most of his time here, but he was always respectful in the way he carried himself. Remember when Khari jones was a sideline reporter for CBC back when they shared the TV contract with TSN. Whenever the cameras showed him on the sidelines at Canad Inns Stadium the crowd would give him a big ovation. What happened last night was no different except Buck happens to still be playing football. I think some people here are trying to convince themselves that the fans cheering for Buck was more of an FU to the BOmbers than a genuine show of appreciation for Buck because they still think Buck's poor play has held the Bombers back for years. Based on the marginal, and I mean MARGINAL improvement at the QB position since Buck was relegated to the backup position and since then traded, I think it's safe to say Buck wasn't holding anything back. Others' resentment of Buck shouldn't be projected onto other Bomber fans - it was a genuine show of appreciation, nothing more.

Except a few Bomber players on twitter have already said the Bomber fans were classy for cheering for Buck when he went in. So yeah, I'm pretty sure your claims that most of the Bomber locker room feels the same way are dubious

That's an interesting theory. While these are professional coaches we are talking about, they aren't any more or less likely to make certain moves out of spite than anyone in the general working population. It's a possibility although probably a remote one.

Boltus is here pretty much entirely because of Bellefool.... we want to keep a guy with evaluation skills like that around? Boltus is here pretty much entirely because of Bellefool.... we want to keep a guy with evaluation skills like that around? Given he barely played him in Hamilton, he probably wanted a better evaluation of what he had to offer with some actual game reps. He was pretty bad though..might need more reps or maybe he is just plain awful regardless of the reps they give him? Bombers might have been better off bringing in Porter - similar to Goltz but an ever so slight upgrade. Let's not forget that Bellefueille was probably instrumental in bringing in Peach and he has played decent in his time with the Bombers.

Well the lack of talent on this team is Mack 's fault. He wasted the fanbase's time for 4 seasons with little to show for it.

Thank you for the recap..... I didn't think our o-line was that horrible... still not good enough but definitely better then what we have had before. 2 new guys to the CFL is very hard for them to pull off. The Blue will *have* to sign experienced CFL O-linemen for next year... also Marcel Bellefeuille, Tim Burke both have to be gone and new fresh regime needs to come and start with a clean slate. I don't care if they choose to not bring back Bellefeuille, but he doesn't exactly have a lot to work with out there.

No point in firing Burkey even though he is done here like dinner. Wait until the off-season when all the best candidates are available for an interview.

Nothing sickening about it. What they said is true. Team is lucky to get the support they get based on the lack of effort/execution out there this season. Stewart can take the bus out of town with Kito.

How was Mack fired the first time? Face-to-face? Better fire him again..by phone, skype, fax. Need to cover all our bases here.

Sure he would have similar success here. O-line in Edmonton is just as bad as Winnipeg's and In some games Stamps barely sees the ball yet Rielly still puts up good numbers. Both teams are awful but Edmonton is closer to taking the next step now that they have a legit starting QB. Winnipeg is no better than they were 4 years ago (except we have more draft picks) and we still don't even have an average QB.

I need to pull out the old thesaurus when I read some of your posts bluto lol

Yeah, when I saw that lame duck he threw up I laughed. That's a panic throw you might expect a young Qb to make, not a 15-year veteran. The smart thing for a veteran QB to do would have been to take the sack or even throw it out of bounds and at least get a field goal out of the series. Then I remembered it was Henry Burris and it's par for the course. A future hall of famer, sure, but due to his underwhelming playoff record and the countless questionable plays in key situations such as last night, he will never be considered a top-10 QB of all-time.

His parents drive from Montana for every game. I went on a roadtrip to Montana last summer and it's two full days of driving from here. That could very well have been a factor. The only closer CFL city to where Reilly's family lives is Calgary. If Reilly thought he couldn't win the job from Buck, Elliott and Brink while having a starters contract in his back pocket, he must have low self-esteem. Not a lack of self-esteem, more of a lack of confidence in management in making a prudent decision. Hard to prove yourself with a million Qbs in camp - limited reps in exhibition games. Mack blew it by not releasing one or both of them earlier instead of dithering around although it's doubtful he would have taken a chance swapping picks to speak with Reilly (would have been worth risk for a QB). As for Montana, I can drive there in eight hours. That's a days drive. Depends on the part of the state his parents are from I guess. It's not like arrangements couldn't have been made to get his parents to games here anyways.

he didn't get a lot of time to throw, but when he did, Goltz looked pretty lost half the time- held on to the ball too long and turned it over twice. His long successful long throws seem to always be contested - a sign of an underthrown ball. As said by another poster, he is a good straight line runner, but not evasive whatsoever, certainly not as evasive as Reilly. Consistently gets caught in the backfield. Five starts and not one OK outing (closest was BC game), let alone good outing. Over the past 25 years, a quarterback who has not strung together a few good outings by their tenth start will almost certainly not become a bonifide starting QB in the CFL. Only exceptions are Calvillo and maybe McManus. I guess Goltz technically would have a few starts left before he hits that magical 10-game mark, but given that he hasn't shown any progress over the past two months, I'd be surprised if he ever starts again. Probably just get in the game when near the opposition goal line or short yardage situations. I think we will see Hall start for 4 or 5 games and possibly one or both of the other two for the remaining 2 or 3 since there's a good chance of injury.

Joe Mack AKA Mr. Dithers really messed this one up. He waited too long to release Elliott and Brink and by the time he did, Reilly was signed, sealed and delivered to the Esks. And as far as those who claim Burke would have started Buck anyways, that's on Mack as well. Never did believe those silly stories about Edmonton being closer to Washington as the deciding factor for Reilly. This article pretty much confirms. What makes it worse is that Mack could have had Glenn for a second or third rounder and yet he didn't pull the trigger. Man definitely didn't appreciate how important the QB position was and over-estimated his ability in finding QBs (and most other positions on the Bombers as it turns out) in the US.

JuranBoldenRules how about this? If the Ticats don't exist, there's a good chance that either A) the soccer matches are held at a newly constructed or existing stadium (probably BMO) in Toronto or the soccer matches are held in Hamilton but in a smaller facility (say 5,000 - 10,000 permanent seats) with several thousand temporary seats However, since the Ticats exist, the PanAm officials and the province decided to build a stadium in Hamilton for soccer matches (supposed to have track and field and a few other things but all that was kiboshed) to not only serve as a legacy project for the city -allowing the stadium to be used for amateur events and an eventual NASL (tier 2) soccer team - but also as a new home for the Ticats. I think what some of the posters here are trying to say is that if the Pan Am games weren't taking place in TO/Hamilton, then no money would be forthcoming from the province or the city for a new football stadium. IMO, the best they could have hoped for was a renovation to upgrade Ivor Wynne which would have been lipstick on a pig. As for cost overruns on our stadium, I have heard on another forum that it could be in excess of 20% so $240-$250 million total.