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They cannot counter in the 48 hour window. They've had 2 days now to go back to Kenny and raise the offer if they so wished. Once the Bombers get the league info on what the exact offer is that Kenny accepted then the Bombers have an exclusive 48 hours to seal the deal. If Kenny wants to see if a Hammy counter will come he needs to go to FA. If I'm the Bombers I am insisting Kenny signs now or the offer is off the table come FA. However, after signing Sterns I think we may have moved on. Hope not tho. We offered 225 apparently. If we go to 260 I would think Kenny would sign with us. You keep throwing around 275 as the number we have to match. We don't. Kenny took a lesser offer two years ago to be with us, no reason to believe he wouldn't again.

Kenny doesn't have to accept any deal offered right now. If Walters is to make a play for Kenny he will need to sign on the dotted line right now but even if he doesn't he can still opt out of the Hammy deal and hit FA. He is not obligated to any offer this week.

For sure. You spend what you have. 2 days ago that was not much, now that's half a million. Lawler loves Winnipeg, who is to say that he doesn't meet us in the middle at 260 or something.

Fair enuff. Sorry took offense to your wording and appreciate the clarification

Some people see what they wanna see. Don't give me this crapola about anyone disagreeing with your take not having football knowledge. That is pure bullshit and an absolutely garbage way to conduct a discussion on a forum. I have played and coached football at a high enough level to know what I am talking about. You are not the only guy on here with football experience. No one is suggesting that JT isn't a problem, what some of us are saying is that you seem awfully fixated on one roster player being the root of all evil. Perhaps it is you that has lost perspective? Have you ever considered that? For two years now you have been suggesting that the rostering at the bottom of our game day depth chart outweighs the positives of MOS's coaching overall and that my friend is just plain bias on your part because that assessment isn't coming with any kind of football acumen behind it. If that is not what you are saying then why the 2 year long circle jerk about it? Yes, JT got way more reps last year than he should have. No one is disagreeing. What you always and conveniently never take into consideration is that injury was the main reason for a lot of them. Look...We ALL agree that MOS has some negative coaching habits, Just not going to dwell on them because he is outstanding in so many other areas that it makes up for his weaknesses. Good gravy man....hearing you talk about MOS one would think he stole your wife. Not good at all.

I just don't see a universe where Jake outplays Lawson for the vast majority of reps this year. Last year was easy for Osh to give the reps to JT. there was no proven commodity behind him. This year, it would be near impossible knowing what we know about Lawson's ability.

I get your worry, but I just can't see it happening.

Yep there were a multitude of calamities particularly in the first half of the season. I though everything tightened up a lot better by the midway point. For sure. A big part of that was O scheme too.

If he is used as he was last year very problematic, however, context is everything. Last year we lost Lawson in TC leaving too many reps for Jake.

Nope not all pressures and sacks are on the OL. However, last year we saw an inordinant amount of average to below average OL play.

Last year he had more pressure on him than all the other years combined.

Meh...I guess BC must see something in him...not sure what.

Sorry I meant to include a return of Lawler to that group as I just feel it's going to happen.

I agree with you on JT. Last year's injury to Lawson really threw him into way more reps than he should have had.

Mitchell, Schoen, Demski, Clercius, Lawler, White and the return of WIlson is as good as it gets in this league. This would give us ample skill starting and ample depth with a 5 IMP option as well when needed.

It's all very doable now, hopefully Walters has taken off his handcuffs and will put pen to paper on some talent.

In any other year I totally agree that 275 is an over pay. This is our GC hosting year. I am not against over paying/exceeding the cap this year to get our cup on home soil. For that reason I want KW to bring in difference makers. He hasn't done so yet and Lawler would be a great start.

I hope our scouting has one more Dalton waiting in the wings. For sure. Just saying that we have seen a couple of our new guys with other teams but not sure who is on their recruitment record. If all you value out of receivers is yardage then you have a point. Lewis and Lawler get paid for being game breakers. I guess that is what the GMs around the league value more.

Yea...we are not far off from having a really good DL. Our scouting group has vastly changed. Not sure what they are good at right now. Always happens and all he has signed so far from us he can have.

I'm still hoping for us to circle back to Lawler. Just feels right.

Lawler's agent told the Bombers he won't be back based on our offer. You don't see how adding half a million to the SMS might change what our offer is? You don't think changing our offer might get Kenny to stay? I would much rather chase McEwan or Couture than to try get Dobson re-signed. BOLO would be a nice add as well.

The difference is they can't talk to him again unless he declines both teams offers and goes to FA Yep..technically Kenny Lawler is under contract with the Bombers right now.

Why would Lawler talking to us surprise you? He would be an idiot not to do so if we called. No he doesn't have to accept our offer, but he probably would if the dollars are the same. Kenny went for the money but if we had offered it to him he would be here. Everything he's ever said about the Bombers backs that up.

Let's say Lawler gets a call from Walter's and he matches Hammy's offer in the 48 hour window. Hamilton CANNOT talk to Lawler again unless he opts to become a FA.

It is all very strange and hard to believe for sure. Whether GMs knew or didn't know the timing of the announcement is super weird. I just don't get why today?