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He could have accepted the reality that early on his OL was not a well oiled machine yet, and that his new receivers were having some growing pains adjusting to the CFL game. I guess maybe his train of thought was to let them play through it until they come out the other side? But it beat the hell out of our QB, and made a bunch of winnable games early on into losses.

We really shouldn't risk our KR/PR too much unless it is necessary. Logan may see some offensive touches, but unless BO is hurt, I don't see him seeing much time in the offence. That could change if someone else turns out to be a stud returner, but if those jobs are Logan's then he will, like all returners across the league really, have a very limited role outside teams. In the CFL it's just too important a role. So, in short, yea I agree with you.

I think Buck's biggest error was not adjusting to his personnel when injuries hit the receiving corps. He kept pushing along as if Lawler and Schoen were in the lineup and that was a recipe for disaster early on.

It will be Kelly all day long...every day.

The offence has to evolve away from the boom or bust offence we have run the past 2 years. We need to get back to the misdirection, backfield in motion, of the first Buck year's with an expanded package for Strev. We do that and we are going to be just fine even with Zac. Buck saw our receiving corps and decided to stretch the field more, but when Lawler and Schoen missed significant time we didn't have the horses to do it and he kept at it.

Kelly jumped the shark on the first day when he cut Glenn and told everyone it was because that is what they wanted so that's why he did it. If a GM got rid of a QB every time fans thought it would be a good idea, no QB would ever make it out of their rookie season.

That's too bad, I'm kind of a morning cinnamon bun ***** and wish i would have had a chance to try one.

Good to know...does it have the cream cheese topping as well? My post was just kind of being facetious a little. I don't expect him to be MOP, but I do expect a good season from him because I think BO and Logan will be a great tandem and a healthy Strev running a different offensive set will keep defences off balance.

I fully expect him to contend for MOP this year.

If they make the old cinnamon bun I may move back to Winnipeg.

I'm not gonna call it trauma because my Dad was an awesome guy, it was the 70's and that's how it was done in my little redneck town I was raised. No regrets...I wouldn't repeat that now but in the big scheme of things it didn't mess me, or my childhood friends from similar upbringings, up too much...lol. Well, can't control the downturns a lot of the time. However, having these kind of numbers in a time that a lot of people are counting pennies due to inflation is very encouraging. Just keep winning, or at least be contending, and it looks like the Bombers should be just fine.

Sounds a lot like my Dad may have been your coach.

I really didn't like the way that Buck almost completely abandoned all the pre-snap motion we used to have in our offence. I am not sure why that happened, maybe all the new receivers? At any rate I think it hurt our offence, particularly when Streveler was playing. I am hoping our new OC brings some of that back, It may lead to some growing pains early on, but we were so vanilla the past two years and not just in the play calling but it can be seen pre-snap. That leads me to believe this was way more of a Buck issue than a Zac issue.

Yea,,,I agree. I will caveat that hoggies are a bit of a different breed when it comes to how you prep them though. They need enough wind to play but the veteran big guys just need enough to get the chemistry back. Nothing more really.f

TC is a slog even for the young guys. Guys like Paddy, you are just inviting injury by working them hard in camp. They have nothing to prove and do not need the reps. I agree, that they should be out there and getting some reps and a bit of game time but they don't need a lot, especially the hogs.

Look, I'm not sitting here trying to give Zac a free pass. He needed to be, and needs to be better. I am simply stating the obvious that in the past 3 Grey Cups he has gone up against juggernaut defences while our defence allowed late game heroics by opposing QBs. Should Kelly ever have been able to come off the bench and beat us? Fajardo take it to us in the 4th Q? Arbuckle actually do anything productive let alone beat us? There is more to these losses than Zac's play that's for sure. I would take Dru or Rourke over Zac now too. Sadly, that option is not available to us. Vaj...nope...I'll stick with Zac thank you.

I have no issue with criticism of a QB in the playoffs as long as it comes with praise when he does well also. You were deriding, rightfully so, his play in Grey Cups lately but then suggesting he got lucky in the good games he played. I don't think either of those opinions are a complete story. When his team has played well and executed so has he, when they haven't he hasn't. Is he able to lift a team badly playing up to victory..nope..but I don't see anyone in the CFL right now who can.

Every game has busts by the opponents D. How our QB, receivers etc recognized the opportunity and executed was the difference. I have never been to a football game where I haven't been yelling at the QB that so and so is wide open down the seam, or watch the QB get sacked just as he recognizes the bust. It's not all on what the Riders gave us, it was equal parts how we used it. Were the RIders D making mistakes...yep...but every defence does every game.

We should not be at all surprised by this style coming from Younger. It was the exact same style he played with the Argos when he and Levingston etc were ball hawking the league. Younger excelled in that format, as did our DBs last year, but it means our QB rush quite often is an after thought.

We shouldn't blame him for his bad games, but discredit him when he plays great. There are a myriad of factors behind every great and poor performance a QB has. However, most will lay blame squarely on the QB when his performance appears off, so it's only fair to do the same when things are clicking....otherwise it's a biased take.

I don't mind the getting hands up in the passing lanes approach with the caveat that there has to be a disruptor to force those throws. So a pure pass rusher off the edge, or a DT that can get pressure consistently are a must this year. I love the system, but wish he would go conventional at times too. Keep the offence off balance.

I really don't mind a TV guy coming in as commissioner. His prowess in that field should serve the CFL well as we look to expand our exposure in the USA.

I like Woli as much as the next guy, but he isn't a 1000 yard guy that never got the ball thrown to him. That's just fallacy. In his first two seasons he was getting as many targets a game as Demski and for roughly the same YPC. In fact, that never really changed. Where Demski left Woli in the dust to become our 3rd receiver option was in his YAC and big play ability. Honestly, I don`t get the grousing when our 4thé5th receiving option received 4th and 5th option targets and opportunities. How can we say he was held back. He sure as heck wasn`t better than, and never will be better than, Schoen or Lawler or Demski or Brady O in the battle for targets per game. I am unclear why anyone would think Woli deserved targets over better receivers. He may get that somewhere else that doesn`t have the talent of our receiving group, but that certainly does not mean we held him back. We gave him the targets that he earned according to his place on the depth chart. That`s not holding someone back.

Year one is adjusting to pro speed for most guys, year 2 should see many guys begin bringing their game. Sucks they are doing that but I doubt it has any real impact whatsoever on anyone's roster.

It's good...but a team is only as good as it's depth. SShhhh.,...don't tell the Riders, they haven't figured that out yet.