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Osh also said he hadn't really been in touch with Dalton since the end of last season and Kyle would probably know more about it.

The odds aren't what you make them out to be. Tons of guys come back successfully from even multiple ACL tears.

That's my thinking as well. If he's healthy and can pass the physical we sign him to a 2 year contract with a good signing bonus to get some of next years on this year's cap, which allows him to eat, and ease him in to where hopefully he's all caught up by playoffs. I think there is a very strong chance. If he signs Labor Dayish that would be a FULL recovery period. He's either good to go then or he never will be.

Maybe you should ask Schoen instead. He has hired a CFL agent and believes he will be ready in early fall. If his doctors feel he's ready and he can pass a physical someone is going to sign him on a prorated contract. I would think we would be interested. It's quite possible Schoen is being overly optimistic and it turns out to be next year. His plans are still to return this year though.

Except he is coming off a couple of serious injuries so it is quite possible he just doesn't have the footwork anymore. I highly doubt we get Allen. Damaged goods. Not sure if he is trying to protect his arm somewhat but there were TC reports saying that his wing was either still not 100 or he was shy to fully use it.

He will stray if there is room but he says he likes to allot so much per position group and wont stray unless he has wiggle room. Won't steal from Peter to pay Paul I believe were his words Strong chance he's here by Labor Day. Dalton Schoen too. Im gonna get flamed for that one but I just have a gut feeling.

MOS sets the 53 and coordinators have carte blanche with who starts/rotates from there. You may not want to believe that but we've already seen Younger rotating guys and changing their positions all over the place during the game. Unless MOS is a ventriloquist that's all Younger. Coordinators determine who is on the field during the game. No doubt we probably could make a couple inconsequential roster moves to the 53 that possibly could be better, we could probably change our ratio for the better as well and that's MOS but when you are talking about player X not getting enough or too many reps during the game..talk to their coordinator

Its what he himself stated...and it's stupid

Meh...i remember many years i couldn't even name our back up until suddenly a Tom Muecke goes in because of injury. In those days there were the 80s Als, and the two Rider teams where you could pull your QB at half time because you had a 40 point lead. The league has parity now and garbage time is minimal I remember one game in the 80s against the Als we put in our backups early in Q2 because we had a 35-0 lead..lol

I agree. I have been an avid CFL fan for over 40 years and can remember at least 4-5 times when QBs were aging out that CFL fans questioned whether another generation of starters was available. Always was a new stream available. Fact of the matter is we are still the best option for those falling just outside the NFL. If you are good enough you can make a half million a year here while playing the game you love. We will always get QBs. The timelines may change as to how soon out of college we get them, but we will get them.

Both MOS and Younger have debunked this claim of yours. Both men unequivocally stated this TC that MOS lets his coordinators choose their starting group. I can understand your frustration with lineups and the bottom line is that the HC needs to step in when his coordinators continue down a bad path, but what you are saying is not factual. Also non-factual is that Eli is somehow being held back by our coaching staff. He has played and he has played badly when he was given a chance. That's on him. If you like what he's doing out there you are about the only one. That converted guard is Liam Dobson. Not chopped liver. You guys are really meandering out into fantasy land thinking that Kolo not being able to beat out Dobson is some kind of vindication on your point. Right now Dobson is probably one of, if not the top OC in the league. Guy is playing fantastic there. Let's also be very clear that Kola was not beaten out by Dobson he was replaced by him after suffering a groin injury. Dobson just never allowed him his spot back because of his outstanding play. If we are going to be mad about Kola and Dobson, let's be mad about the fact that our coaching staff never saw the potential of Dobson playing centre. How things might have changed then. Fact is that if Eli were any kind of centre we wouldn't even be talking about Kola. We've had numerous OCs and the leagues best OL coach all come to the same concensus on him. Not good enough.

I don't see Cline making the PR though. Miami is very deep at OT. You forgot Sage Doxtater from your list. Most of the straight to NFL guys were drafted by the NFL. By my count there are only 6 guys that went as UDFA's straight to the NFL instead of the CFL, and 3 have come back. Sure there is the case of Alaric Jackson who went as a UDFA and turned heads, but very few UDFA's stick for long periods of time and most are cut in their first camp. Teams very seldom use a top 20 pick on a guy who has legit NFL prospects. BC erred in 2020 with Jackson but for the most part our draftees who go to the NFL as UDFA's come to Canada sooner rather than later.

I think there is a strong chance he is dumped prior to TC by the Dolphins. If so, a guy has to eat.

He is not going to be here long imo, the only way he stays here longer than Vibert is if he agrees to go on the PR and I really don't think he will. I was one of his biggest fans circa 2019 too, but as time has gone on I have been able to see that my assessment of him is incorrect. He is a dud. You are more stubborn than me I guess. You want so bad for Eli to be a bad decision by MOS that it is clouding your judgement. In what 7 years he has never been able to secure a starting position and is playing behind turnstiles like Kolo and Elsbury, despite having the right passport. That is very telling.

I think that Kline will end up here sooner than later and that will be the end of the road for Eli.

MOS is constantly berated on here for being too loyal to not good enough NAT vets, yet when he replaces a dud like Eli it's a mistake? The goal posts are not very consistent in these arguments for sure. If Eli is not in there it is almost certain it is because the coaches do not like his game. PERIOD. He's a NAT, if he were considered equal or close to Elsbury he would be playing. History has taught us that about MOS. Some guys are hanging onto a hard on/hate on for players based on what they were/promised to be 5-6 years ago. The reality is Eli is not a good starting OL. We let a boat load of talent walk away. We invested picks and let them walk because KW didn't want to pay the market rate for some guys. Let's not pretend that the last few years of NAT talent walking out the door didn't happen. Retention is key to having a good NAT stable of horses. We let way too many walk.

I'll take a QB that has a below average game for 3 Q but puts the team on his back in the 4th Q any time, any day.

Some QBs throw a nice ball and quietly put up good numbers but lose, some QBs put the team on their back down by 17 points in the 3rd Q and elevate their game when it counts and win. I know which guy I would rather have 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. TB wants to narrow down the conversation to just stats for a position that is 20% stats and 80% intangibles. It's why wins matter for QBing far more than the stat line. You have good QBs like VA, for instance, who light it up but still lose. Why? They miss the one key component that every great QB needs...being clutch. Take a guy like Trevor Harris. He didn't have a Grey Cup until last season despite being one of the most statistically impressive QBs of the last decade. It wasn't until he found a way dig deep enough in the big moments, a skill or desire he didn't have until he realized he was running out of time then the light bulb went on in his head. Dru, early in his career, learned to seize the big moments just like his mentor Zac. Throw for show, win for dough. Lots a QBs worry about their stats instead of going out and leaving it on the field for the win. The guys that will drag a team to a win are more valuable. I will take a gutsy QB that only cares about winning and can rise to the occasion over the statistical darling any day of the week. So TB wants to know which QB played better? The answer is so obvious I can't believe he asked the question.

These are young men, young men drink and party. I hate to sum up a guy's life based on an youthful act of sheer stupidity. That being said, Dalke took a life and does not deserve to be honored by any professional sports organization because of it. I don't care if he had CTE, or addiction to painkillers, or suicidal. His decision that day cost a young 22 year old man his life. The Riders need to send a message that this was not an acceptable act.

Brady Oliveira only had 9 touches last week. Perhaps we should trade him as well.

Winning is not a comparison point? Its the ONLY comparison point that matters. Smh One guy rose to the occasion when it mattered, one guy wilted under the pressure. If you dont think that matters I dont know what to say to you. That's the difference between good QBs and bad ones 99x out of a 100. Dru's one great Q outweighed the entirety of Maiers play because he came from a massive deficit, put the team on his back, and his team to victory. If you dont appreciate the significance of that you are either dense or playing silly bugger. You didn't ask who was the most efficient passer in the game was, you asked who played better. The answer to that is not even close...Dru Brown because he is the guy who did what he's paid to do. Facilitate his offence so that it outscores the opponent.

Did not know that...definitely out of his mind on something. Paid for it with his life, unfortunately the other guy is the real victim not him. I have no sympathy for Dalke at all, but feel for his family.

Yep, I don't wanna play the impaired card yet...but you end up in the wrong lane by falling asleep or being drunk. So badly hungover maybe...or drunk...either way alcohol and drugs played a role.

Tragic that in this day and age people are still risking lives with impaired driving. If that is indeed what happened.

The UFL offers almost nothing for skill players but might have some useful guys in the trenches. Maybe we bring back Garrett Marino...lol