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He's still working his 9 to 5 in Winnipeg. I would imagine he will continue to do that unless another team picks up the phone. Biggie moved here, lives here, works here, why would he leave?

Unprepared could mean a number of things, but none of them are good. However, sometimes a person can be unprepared through training injury etc. At any rate we've paid half his salary already so it is almost guaranteed he's sticking around. Might mean we keep one more IMP receiver on the PR than we otherwise would have though. If he continues to be unprepared for some reason than his tenure with us will be short.

MOS is safe unless we go sub .500 this year. He gets the benefit of the doubt otherwise. I'm not saying MOS is on a forever run but it will take a significant dip in the standings before they ever pull that trigger. Walters is far more likely to get canned then MOS if we were to just be mediocre this year, I know you don't love the way MOS does things but he has a lot of good will in the bank.

I like what I saw from Artopoeus more than what I saw from Wilson given their respective development time. Wilson is a 2nd year guy but looked pretty hesitant. Not to mention Logan, who is also a very good RB. I hope Cooley can add some value somewhere so we can keep him but I`m just not seeing how unless we can stash him on the PR but I`m seeing several good candidates for that as well that are at positions far more important.

This was immensely better football than the UFL games on TSN.

For sure. We can give him SOME reps in practice, but being a good RB does not guarantee he can return well and I think a lot of people here seriously underestimate how big a skill shagging punts is.

He was our big FA get, so I think he gets some opportunity before we cut him loose. Unless, his attitude is the cause of this then he might get walking papers but I haven't heard anything to indicate that. Seems he is just not adjusting to our offence yet. Maybe that comes, maybe it doesn't....but we will give him time I would think. He has been paid a portion of his salary already so keeping him on costs us about the same as a rookie now.

I totally agree. Not to mention that Mitchell has proven his ability in real games in this league. I`m certainly not going to suggest that D. Mitchell is a sure thing or anything but he`s a proven, productive receiver in this league. He will get a chance to see real game action before a decision to cut him is made imo.

Those UFL games help me sleep. You can actually hear the wind blow through the uprights of the empty stadium when the players aren`t talking. So soothing­. Im hoping for more than that. I think he`s got it in him.

You think Bighill and Alexander gracefully stepped aside despite having contract offers....you are dreaming in technicolor.

2 out of the 4 you mentioned are gone. I don't agree at all that Kola has hit his best before..he just isn't a top notch OL and we don't have anyone to steal his job atm. We aren't starting Kola because Osh has a man crush on him. We are starting him because Eli was never able to take the job from him. I don't get the Jake love either, so I can only assume that he must hold tremendous value to the room. Only thing that stands to reason really. Not a good reason for the amount of reps he got, then again what was behind him? Should have gone IMP I suppose. Not sure why we felt the need to go 9 NATS all season.

Some guys thrive under the Friday night lights. Wanna see him in game action before writing him off. All depends what he is getting up front imo.

He won MOP in two of those years while being the number one QB in the league. So yea, I would say he played a large role. But that was then and this is now, so I get where you are coming from.

I'd be shocked if White Jr were to beat out Mitchell, especially with Mitchell's ability to return. Lot of people pooping on Dillon Mitchell right now because he is a little slow catching onto the playbook, but he is a very good receiver just a slow learner of our system. I feel he will get there in time for the season.

What does it do for morale when vets are churned out like day old bread? You won't get buy in without loyalty being a two way street. Of course, I agree that it can't go over the top to either degree. I mean it's not like we haven't moved on from vets in our organization. I think it is ridiculous that people say the team never moves on when just this year we will not be seeing Bighill or Alexander for instance. But that doesn't match the narrative being driven on this forum so let's forget about all the vets we've moved on from in just the past couple years and focus solely on one player named Jake Thomas. SMH. What guys are we not keeping for our second contract that we would have loved to keep? Name one. I honestly can't believe how much the narrative around here is driven by Jake Thomas? Makes no sense whatsoever. Yea, he probably should be put out to pasture but it is complete nonsense to suggest that we are a team that never moves on from players. Adam Bighill and Brandon Alexander would disagree vehemently with that take. Also this narrative that our roster is too veteran heavy is also nonsense. Our starting 24 last year had the 3rd most amount of rookie/sophmore players in the entire league.

Just a hunch. Jake can be effective in limited situational reps. I get what you are saying, but he is effective early in his rep cycle with diminishing returns as he gasses out.

Forgot to add that I'm actually glad you are going a little later in camp as well. The first few days are really kind of unfair to the rookies. They kind of all look like dog crap while they adjust to our game. By week 2 they settle in and you can get a much more accurate read on which ones actually have the skill level because they have gotten over the adjustment period a bit,

I don't agree that Jake has no use to us as a player, but I do agree that the amount of reps he got last year were way too many. He shouldn't be taking more than 10 snaps a game to give someone else a quick breather. That is how he could be an effective player and leader on our team. Of course, last year's usage was dramatically impacted by Lawson's injury, but I totally agree that his reps need to drastically reduced. In a perfect world we wouldn't have a coaching cap and he could come in as an assistant position coach instead...but c'est la vie.

It is nice to get a variety of camp reports from actual fans. Always have to take them with a grain of salt, as everyone has their biases and one day at camp is just a snap shot in time, but for the most part way more informing than anything out in the media. I like to hear about new recruits especially that are standing out, having a rough day, or even looking lazy and lost. As a reader I just have to remember it's one day in camp and not get too high or low on a player. Back when I used to attend camps regularly, I never really posted much about it because I was the type of guy that would sometimes get tunnel vision on one or two players that caught my attention and lock in on them instead of observing camp as a whole. Some camp reports I read were how I observed camp that day, and some were way out in left field making me wonder if that guy even attended or was just making it up. At any rate, I look forward to hearing your camp takes Booch. I love hearing a fan's perspective, especially when the fan knows something about the game. Also, I agree that the media attending spend more time hunting down coffee and donuts, and standing around in a circle yapping with each other than actually paying attention to anything actually going on at field level. Some guys watch the first 10-15 minutes and draw their daily conclusions from that, then it's mostly hang around and visit. Very few stay the whole session either.

Talking mainly about the hype machine. Around here we tend to hear a lot about some guys and bupkus about others because someone went to camp one day....lol

We didn't hear a whole bunch about Ontaria Wilson last year either. Most ppl here were kind of who is that after he made the cut last year. I don't remember hearing a lot about Dalton Schoen until the last half of camp in his rookie year either.

Thing about hammies is that they tend to dramatically effect performance as well. No real way of hiding a hammy.

That's an impressive receiving corps for sure.

Yikes, something in the water over there when it comes to TC injuries every year.

Ok....what about weight of all these guys, YAC ability, speed testing, ability to contribute on teams etc. He is of below average height, far below average weight, and has mediocre testing numbers and not much for YAC or ST ability. If it was solely a height thing I guess he's average in his competition....but there are also many other factors working against him.