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Edwards didn't finish the game did he? haven't heard a word on him.

Thanks for saving me the trouble. Even better is adding in what the offense actually accomplished on their own getting those 33 points. 7 came from a punt return, 7 more came after the D set them up right near the goal line with an int return.

been concerned that we have the wrong guy at qb since they started talking about the big protection quick release offense. Need Calvillo or Glenn to run that most effectively and I would absolutely have tried my best to bring Glenn in during the offseason.

The reason it is so frustrating is because of how good the defense is playing. We could be 2-0 right now if the offense didn't disappear for long stretches of the game. A defense like that you have a chance to do something special and we are seeing signs that once again they won't be able to take advantage of it simply because the play from the most important position on the field isn't up to par. A guy like Ray would kill teams with this offense.

Doug Brown has been saying for a couple years now that old man Calvillo hates being hit and he got sacked 11 times in the last 2 games, that is unheard of, no wonder Calvillo is pissed at his coaches. Took an offense that kept him upright and made life hell on defenses and threw it away. Much like the bombers are using the wrong qb for their offense the als are using the wrong qb for that offense. Someone like Burris would probably look better running that nonsense than an immobile Calvillo.

I think Johnson is getting crapped on a bit too much... but that being said I am a HUGE Sears fan and at this point JJ is probably the weakest link in the secondary and getting Sears in at his expense might just happen.... Dunn has been really good in these first two games, coming out of nowhere to look like a good fit at that position. Parker as well seems to be fitting in nicely at LB and all those questions we all had about the position seem to be going away.

you go ahead and cling to your wrong opinions, but they're still wrong. It's good that you can at least respect what we're saying, that just indicates that deep down you are afraid we're right and that your happy thoughts might not wind up coming true. I wish Pierce was still a guy you can count on but he's not and that's why it was such a huge mistake to tie the entire season to him. The guys game has fallen off a cliff the last couple years, he's a backup at this point. Likely will need to try and get Glenn out of Calgary if the backups here aren't good enough to take the reigns because Glenn would actually fit this offense and give us average qbing to allow ths defense to win a few games.

I'm actually worried about what the argos defense will do to pierce. I don't think their secondary is all that great, but they will blitz Pierce from all over and I don't see him being able to recognize it and make the throws needed to slow them down at all.

The Buck Pierce of 2010 or even 2011 doesn't exist any more. He didn't do a **** lot of winning last year and this year he's playing exactly the same way. He is not a good qb anymore and it's very sad to see cause he used to be a damned good one. Injuries have ruined him because he can't play his game anymore and trying to play the game like Anthony Calvillo or Ricky Ray was never a strength of Pierce. The problem is that he can't string it together enough to score enough points. He didn't do it in week one and he didn't do it enough tonight... but he got saved by the defense turning in an unbelievable night. Won't happen many times in the CFL period that you hold a team to 4 points until well into the 4th quarter.

I like a lot of what Crotwon has out there, there are options to deal with the blitz, there are lots of receivers open.... our qb is just not the right qb for this offense. No one is scared of him beating them with his arm so they'll just focus on the run and blitz blitz blitz and trust that he won't be able to string together enough plays to score enough points. Backfired on Montreal tonight because the bombers D was relentless and absolutely blew up the Als o-line all night long but you can't expect to get that many sacks every night and rattle a qb that much.

wrong on so many levels. Bryant turner won the game by making a play when needed. Desia Dunn won the game by making a play when needed. Pierce had turnovers directly related to him, failed to get a sizable lead despite the defense doing everything it could. The defense made more plays than the offense ****** up tonight simple as that. That offense was overall terrible tonight, an outstanding performance by the defense won the game period end of discussion.

more like inconsistent qb is inconsistent.

what part of inconsistent don't you understand? That means that sometimes he'll make the throw, other times he won't. This isn't judgements based solely on these first two games either, these are things Pierce has been showing for some time now. Burying your head in the sand hoping that he just magically gets it all of a sudden won;t help anything.

in the first half the offense was good turnover aside, in the 2nd half they weren't. simple as that.

you'd have to spin pretty hard to make Pierces performance seem average at this point.

part of the reason the offense isn't punishing the blitz is pierces limitations. He's too inconsistent a passer to stand there and beat a blitz with his arm.

I ******* love that defense.

tackles are more valuable the closer they are to the LOS. You gotta take them with a good dose of observation as well. If a guy is getting lots of tackles 20 yards downfield that's a problem, if he's getting lots within 5 yards that's good.

seeing how the bombers came out after halftime I want to put some faith in our coaches making good adjustments. Now just up to the players to execute.

Not to mention that as the game wore on those sweeps became much less effective as the bombers knew it was coming and made sure guys were in position to stop it. Thinking that Montreals offense being new caught them napping a bit early on but as the game went along the bombers D started sniffing those out.

yes... but that one on 3rd down in week one he definitely had a case because it was text book PI that wasn't called. Denmark is another guy who protests too much about PI calls. Would much rather they just keep fighting and hopefully the refs don't have their heads in their asses and will make the calls.

It's true, and it's going to be the exact same gameplan all year for teams facing the bombers. stop the run and laugh when Pierce thinks he can beat you with his arm. The qb position is such a liability for the bombers right now that it makes the offense much easier to defend. Pierce NEEDS to have success passing the ball if this team has a hope in hell of ever getting a consistent running game going. He had the receivers open to make plays passing last week, now he needs to actually hit his targets more consistently.

I'd keep Edwards around for the veteran presence, I'd just stop asking him to be one of the teams top receivers, which based on last game is happening anyway, although Pierce does seem to be a guy who loves throwing to Edwards,probably a lot of trust there

How many points did they get in the fourth quarter? how many first downs did they get? How is that anything but a dismal failure? I know you like to believe everything is fine but PIerce was absolute **** in game 1 outside of a few drives and a big part of it is that he's not a good enough passer to beat teams with his arm. Back in his best days if the blitz came he could simply run the ball himself and make them pay, but now when he hook slides when guys get within 3 yards of him he's no where near as effective a player.

Pierce wasn't making plays to nullify the blitz. Case in point: when they were backed up on the goal line... bombers had a good play call pierce threw the ball at the fullbacks feet so he didn't have a chance to make the play. Next play he threw the ball at edwards feet and didn't give him a chance on it either. Wasn't the only time the qb failed to make the defense pay for blitzing. Right now trying to stop pierce from running is making him very easy to defend via blitzing because he's not getting the ball away quick enough or accurate enough to cause teams to slow down. Kevin Glenn was actually really good at slowing teams down by throwing quickly.