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I still fail to understand why we cut our most productive QB from last year and redesigned our offense around one that can't stay healthy and wasn't even as good anyways.
never mind that the whole idea behind giving extra protection and relying on getting the ball out quicker probably is more suited to Elliott than Pierce to start with!
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Mike what are these red flags you speak of? (I don't disagree but I think it would be good to recap on them!) I don't mind Burke's approach, my only concern similar to LaPo is that the lockeroom does not really respect him and with this young team we may have guys being unmotivated (i.e. playing way below their normal level).
what more of a red flag do you need? His team got absolutely demolished the week after he took over, usually that's the easiest game to get a team ready to play. They bounced back a bit the following week, but Burke makes one of the all time dumbest decisions in football and they lose anyway... then they get absolutely hammered again the following week.... Really concerning way to start. They he swears up and down that Pierce has to be the qb and runs out the guy who showed the most at the position last year.... He can be maybe too honest in the media when he should keep things in house a bit more... Just a lot of things that make you wonder if he's got the right stuff. I'll give him a chance because I do like the attitude overall, but he's gotta get the most out of this team or it'll be another new coach and another new GM.
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Yes, how terrible. Let's look at the offending quote again.
Can you believe that?!?! Wow what a big jerk. Can't believe he would drag his players through the mud like that. How awful.
yeah well if that was the only quote to be concerned about throughout his time here then maybe it'd be easy to blow it off, but it isn't.
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Nothing saying that Buck can’t still be a good two-dimensional player. He can still make plays with his feet. It’s the how the plays end that need to change. Get rid of the ball, hook-slide, run out-of-bounds, and do what your coaches are asking of you.
but they're asking him to be a pocket passer! Which is stupid in and of itself cause the guy has gotten hurt in the pocket more than outside of it in his time here anyway... but besides that, when was the last time you saw Pierce actually able to run that effectively? Here's your answer, august 2011 against the esks. That's the last time I can remember Pierce actually being really elusive and quick with his legs. Physically that guys gme has fallen a long long way.
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if you think having to leave an hour + early to get to a big event is unreasonable then I think you are simply out of touch with reality....If you don't live near the stadium then yeah it's going to take some time. Hell Winnipeg ain't that big a city, should be grateful that it doesn't take longer like it does in some cities.
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of course he was. what were the other options put in front of him? Burke's no fool... he didn't want to start the year with rookies and backups with no experience.
That remains to be seen.... How often do you see a guy take over from a fired head coach and have his team get shut out the following week? There's plenty of reasons to wonder if Burke is any kind of head coach, he's got a lot to prove this season about whether he can wear the big hat or if he's just a good coordinator.
Hitching your wagon to Pierce at this point is not what anyone calls a smart move. He is no where near the qb he used to be and if he can't stay healthy anyway you might as well find your next guy.
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But also tough for the offense to be productive when there's different guys under centre. Need that familiarity...
you talking about a 2 qb system or just when PIerce inevitably gets injured? Let's be absolutely honest here, we're not going through the season using only 1 qb, and quite likely it'll be more than 2 qbs anyway so why not keep the backups involved in the game since they'll have to play at some point?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OptA-zxtM5M
That game is just a real good example of Buck Pierce at his best... you notice how many highlights were of Pierce running? I just don't believe that this grand plan of trying to turn him into Calvillo who has huge protection and throws the ball quickly is going to be effective. Pierce was a good qb because he could absolutely make a defense pay with his legs, without that I just don't think he's dangerous enough.
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I want to like Burke a lot because I love the upfront attitude... but there's some red flags popped up last year and we shall have to see if he's got that sorted out this year or not.
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Pretty obvious the Argos were coming after him so why expose him to injury? I think it's actually a good move. Now, if Burke does that in the regular season then I agree there's a problem. But exhibition? I'm okay with that.The Argos never dressed Ray. AC had one series yesterday. Burris never even dressed... The teams have to protect their qbs.
The problem is that we are a the point where simply blitzing renders our starting qb completely useless. You can't play in the CFL if you make defending your offense that easy. Pierce is done as a player and veteran or not the bombers needed to move on and they're not doing it.
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why new HC? he isn't the one who didn't get more/better/different QB options into Bomber training camp... or some new meat in to protect him... Burke is just playing the man who shows the best ability at the position.
Oh please, Burke was lobbying HARD to get Buck back as a starter. I got the impression that Mack would have been ready to move on if not for Burkes insistence that he wanted PIerce to start.
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Honestly guys, if your solution to the problem is people will get used to leaving two hours before game time then you're going to lose casual fans.
No I don't think that's what people are saying, I think what people are saying that once people figure out something that works there will be less issues because people will be trying new things to get there and will eventually stumble on something that works for them. I mean people had 50+ years to figure out how to get to Winnipeg Stadium at a time that worked for them.... They've had one week to find out what works getting to IGF and everyone is starting from square one.
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if it were me I'd have built the media box facing the parking lot for all the good the local media does these days. If not for Bob Irving and Ed Tait those rare times he's on the football beat there ain't much for quality in that city.
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Carter's not raw at 20 coming right out of junior football??? Looks to me that it's all about how you think of yourself. The mental aspect of the game is 70%. Carter's confident & believes in himself. Etienne is just figuring that out.
Etienne was a kicker until a year or so before his draft though right? You think a guy like Carter who has been playing receiver presumably his whole career wouldn't have as steep a learning curve right?
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If teams don't know how Jones likes to blitz by now they'll never get it. Not like he's a new DC or anything, he's been around a time or two.
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Well as someone pointed out. Do the math. You warned people there is little or no parking on site apart from those with paid in advance privileges so prepare for the significant percentage that you have warned. How does that number translate to approximately 5,000? I believe the saying his hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
Look they wouldn't have just pulled numbers out of their asses for predicting transit ridership, there would have been studies done and those numbers would have come about based on gathering information and they would have been educated guesses. They got it wrong, it happens. There was no way this was going to go off without any hiccups no matter how much planning you put in.
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Pierce is done as an effective starting qb, that was painfully obvious last year and it was painfully obvious last night even facing a backup squad. He is too easy to rattle these days just because of the amount of injuries he's had.
Maybe Crowton has some magic up his sleeve for the regular season and he'll rejuvenate Pierce, but I am not holding out hope. The Pierce we got for those first few games in 2010 is long gone and I don't think he's ever coming back. My biggest hope for the season is the Hall or Goltz can step up and take the job.
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. he just needs to talk like an everyman .. don't try to sound smart ..
That's really my only problem with Brown, he tries way too hard to use big words and gets overly wordy. Just spit it out simple and to the point.
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Well trying to predict what over thirty thousand people are going to do when you've never seen it done is a little bit like herding cats. Hell I can speak from experience here in calgary that one little disruption in the routine in traffic and everyone loses their minds and everything slows down to insane levels. No one has a clue exactly what's going on when they get into this situation and that's how poor decisions are made and traffic becomes frustrating almost entirely because people make bad decisions.
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That's right. Every team guns for the QB, but teams are going to be that much more aggressive to try and take Pierce out of the picture. We see other teams a little more willing to risk a roughing penalty to get a solid lick in on Buck. Sure, 15 yards and a first down is a costly penalty any time, but not so much when the payoff is getting to face one of our untested backups. Buck is a marked man, above and beyond any other QB in this league.
And especially in preseason. Teams so rarely blitz in preseason because they want to actually see what their players can do in other situations. The only reason to constantly blitz in preseason is to mess up the other teams qb. It's just a total **** move and it's a big reason why defenses can look like complete crap in preseason but get better as soon as the regular season hits.
and I should also point out that my frustration isn't even with the Argos, it's the fact that this is just the reality we all have to put up with as Bomber fans since they opted to hitch their wagon to PIerce again. It's frustrating because it's going to happen every week until they finally move on.
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Nothing teaches them how to make it flow smoother than doing that first event. I've been to events here in Calgary at some places that I thought would be an absolute nightmare to get out of but they've done stuff there enough that they have people directing traffic and it flows very well. People will learn what they can and can't do as individual drivers as well. It's just brand new for everyone involved and everyone will learn and it will all go towards helping.
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And how would you feel if Jones was the DC in Winnipeg? People always complained about Greg Marshall's none aggressive, vanilla defence when he was DC. Perhaps a reminder of the "heyday" championship defences of the likes of Fox, West, Jones, Battle, Randolph et al would remind us of the success of those teams and the likes of that "style" of player and defence.
The tune seems to change when one is on the favourable side of things.
I'm not saying it's not effective, I'm just calling it like it is. Throw in the shenanigans with Jones going to Toronto in the first place and yeah I'm going to stand by calling him a piece of trash.
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You know what, good on winnipeggers for biking and using transit! Too often in this country every one just says "**** it I'll drive myself" They'll get a lot of these issues resolved in time I have no doubt about that.
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I like that there seems to be no auto-correct for swearing on this site. Cool! Made me spit out my Diet Coke when I read it though. As for the "marked" comment - not sure what you mean there. Aren't all QB's 'marked"? I don't get that.
It's no secret that teams know that Pierce gets hurt a lot and if you knock him out you up your chances of winning. Yeah every qb is marked to an extent, but teams are willing to go farther with known injury cases. Especially teams with a DC like Jones.
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I'd take a guy who can drive the field before getting useless than failing to be able to drive the field at all. Turnovers in the red zone are a lot easier to fix than not being able to string a couple first downs together.