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Can someone please call the coaches show and ask them wtf the deal is with boltus and short yardage? I could gain one yard with my dink and this clown can't?
Bellefool looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooves Boltus and Timmy hates Goltz now.
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On CJOB, they were talking about the qb position on the post game show last night. Bob is no Goltz fan & couldn't understand why fans want to see him play again. Jim Toth & Doug Brown were saying that the fans want Goltz to play if Hall can't go because no one will want to see Boltus play as he's terrible. Basically, they feel the Bombers can't win with Boltus which is pretty obvious. Toth talked about the reason Goltz isn't even doing short yardage plays anymore. That his attitude was terrible & was being punished. Toth said he was pouty & would turn & walk away from coaches when they spoke to him & that he refused to put it on the line in Edmonton. Brown said that winning should usurp personality conflicts & that if Goltz gives the Bombers the best chance to win then he should play. Brown also said that if Burke thinks he's going down he shouldn't take players like Goltz with him. Brown also said as far as bad attitude goes, is Goltz any worse than Casey Creehan who screams, yells & generally loses his mind on the sidelines every game? Bob said he'd like to see Levi Brown play & the other 2 agreed.
The thing that bothers me the most is that Boltus is terrible and if Goltz is in the doghouse so much that the coaches refuse to use him at what he's good at (redzone, short yardage) and opt for a guy who can barely get any kind of forward progress in short yardage and is a worse qb then why the hell didn't they just release Goltz? Why keep the guy around if you have absolutely 0 faith in him? The way Burke buries people he doesn't like is absolutely disgusting. Cares more about holding grudges than putting the best people on the field.
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Everyone is a superstar when Ricky Ray is your QB.....I'm pretty sure he's even making their defense better somehow...
Edmonton wasn't exactly a powerhouse in Rays last few years there.
but they were 11-7 in his last year there and look how much of a disorganized mess that team looked without him. With a Ricky Ray it makes it so much easier to build a team because you know exactly what kind of offence to install because you know what Ray does well and it makes receivers look good cause he's putting balls right where they can be caught.
He's pretty f'ing good and will make a team better, no doubt about that. Edmonton did put up some losing seasons with him though. Adding Ray to a hot mess of a team will only cool that mess, not fix it completely. Toronto has a pretty good team, and coaching staff, around Ray, which is helping him to do things like what happened last night.
but it's worth remembering that the argos were only 9-9 last year, and this year they're in the absolute shits of a conference. I don't think the Argos are as good a team as the hype. They're really only first in the east because the Bombers are so inept this year and the Als are only slightly less inept. Hell the ticats look like a real team this year because of it too. You put a qb like Ray out there it make everything look better.
Honestly the only thing that matters is that they got a decent looking coach in Milanovich and got Ray, but there are any number of GMs who can hire a good coach which is the biggest thing. Barker didn't look like he'd built much of a team when he had Cleo Lemon as his qb.
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Everyone is a superstar when Ricky Ray is your QB.....I'm pretty sure he's even making their defense better somehow...
Edmonton wasn't exactly a powerhouse in Rays last few years there.
but they were 11-7 in his last year there and look how much of a disorganized mess that team looked without him. With a Ricky Ray it makes it so much easier to build a team because you know exactly what kind of offence to install because you know what Ray does well and it makes receivers look good cause he's putting balls right where they can be caught.
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He turned around the long moribund Argonauts.
yeah but no one is going to hand up RIcky Ray on a silver platter.
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I sincerely don't think the D was *THAT* bad.......Frito is THAT good.......
It was definitely a bit of both. The D did well to keep the argos out of the endzone more but there were times when the coverage was real sloppy too. Ray was Ray, he just wasn't missing and doing his infallible robot throwing machine thing.
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If Ottawa takes Max Hall, we get to protect two more NIs, which means our 7th and 8th best NIs stay with the team. Up to you decide whether or not that's a good thing.
Yeah I remember listening to the Ottawa people on the radio one time during the season and they were talking about how it'd have to be an absolute sure thing at qb because they felt like it might be more worthwhile to be able to have access to more NIs rather than taking a qb and letting teams protect other NIs. Seems they were keen to go the FA route for qbs.
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Ugh no Barker please.
Curious as to why you feel that way? Very successful GM in Calgary & Toronto. Ton of contacts down south in the NFL & NCAA. Known in the football world as a good guy. Maybe he'd be willing to leave Toronto to be closer to Calgary where he has immediate family. I think he'd be a great addition. Or Higgins.
Cause he's an arrogant smug jackass and every time I hear him talk I want to punch babies.
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Ugh no Barker please.
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A rare late season Thursday evening game.
Where's bluto been lately?
It is odd to have a Thursday night game this late into the season. Going to have to miss the game due to curling tonight. Not sure if that is a blessing in disguise or not....
good man. Curling you're allowed to miss football for.
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If that guy finds his way to Winnipeg it will be a nice boon to the teams NI depth.
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Bottom line Ian Wild is a hell of a player and him not being a starter is a crime.
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I'm okay with Hall as the backup, but definitely not as the starter. I hope we learned from cutting Elliot and Brink that you shouldn't cut what you have until someone else proves that they're better.
They should have learned that after 2009 and they cut Glenn.
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oh no one is complaining about bringing Foster in, just leaving him in when he's not really doing much of anything except dropping the ball. Just cause they traded Pierce for him doesn't mean he should keep getting chances ahead of guys who have been here all year and not dropped so many passes.
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come on now, Khari at OC wouldn't be terrible. He did good in Hamilton at the position.
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I don't know I think he is being properly used. You look at his success in BC and he was always catching the ball over his shoulder on the run. He's more of a deep threat guy, and we're getting him to run 5-10 yard hitch patterns.
Plus it's a new offence for him. I don't think he is a bust, just yet.
yeah the new offence excuse doesn't fly when you have trouble hanging onto the ball. If you can't catch then you're not much of a receiver.
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I just don't understand why we'd play him in the slot either.
Foster should be at the wideout spot opposite MSW/Kelly, instead they do exactly what we did to Bowman a couple years ago and play him in a spot that accentuates his inabilities. He's not more than average as a wideout either, but he's doing far below average in the slot.
Really seems like someone somewhere got enamoured with his size and potential ability to block that they figured he was a natural at slotback... I want Etienne back cause at least Etienne hangs onto the ball when it comes to him.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMk5sMHj58I
Burke has never shown me he's playing to win. He's a pathetic leader and coach and it baffles me he was able to pass an interview to become a head coach. He's worse than Bart Andrus or whoever it was that started the year in Montreal.
He never did. He got the job after the previous got was fired and they just decided to keep him on.
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So every QB constantly throws up big time under throws and prays their player will come back to the ball?
every qb that's worth a damn will throw a ball up and trust the receiver to out play the defensive back. Every single one of them. Why would you not? That's why you want the athletic receivers, so that they can win those battles.
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Bringing timmy back, that's funny. A real joke.
Hate to say it but, they are still playing hard for him, just their mistakes holding them back now.
they never started playing hard for him.
Playing hard and making plays are two different animals. Can't blame it all on the coaching, the players haven't delivered either when the opportunities have been there.
Have to clean house, coaches and players, the talent just isn't their to win on a consistent basis.
What I would say, is that the players never played for Burke and they've only started playing hard the last couple weeks cause they're trying to save their own jobs. I mean 52-0 in Burkes first outing as head coach... yeah the players never bought into him as head man. How many blowouts have there been since he got the job? Now finally with the end of the season in sight a lot of people have realized that if they don't show something they'll be out of a job and are actually giving a damn.
Talent is not the big problem on this team, the worst coaching staff in ages is.
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I disagree, kicking the field goal is playing for a tie. The position on the field the Bombers were in You gotta try and score the touchdown and even if you don't make it you're still down by 6 with plenty of time to get the ball back and win. As it ended up they were still down by 6 when they got the ball back. you're sitting at 3 wins on the season might as well go out trying to win rather than playing the passive game, epsecially when the offense was actually marching pretty well on the drive.
As much as it might be hard to admit, going for the field goal was the right given that it would have been third and ten. Take the points and be down 3. The D was playing pretty good to that point and you'd have to trust that we'd get the ball back with time to shoot for another field goal to tie it.Who goes for a field goal down 6 with 2 minutes left within the redzone. How the **** does Burke have a job in professional football
If you go for it on third and ten and don't convert your still down by 6. The following possession for TO resulted in a field goal meaning we would have been down by 9 at that point. Therefore we wouldn't have had the same shot to win the game at the end as we did.
but at the time you make the decision you assume your defense is going to step up and prevent a score. I'll take my chances with a defense when the turnover might occur that deep in the argos own end.
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Hall is a good qb if he has time. If his throws are rushed then they're up for grabs.
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It may take Montreal out of the Collaros sweepstakes...but it raises more questions about our own scouting...
well we've had 3 quarterbacks win games for us this year.... I'm going to stand by my opinion that Winnipegs #1 problems are coaching related and not talent related.
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yeah cause they're sooooooooo many local players league wide right?