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Anyway - having watched the last 3 Grey Cups over the last 2 days, it's clear that the Bombers need to go 2019 on Montreal.
Impose their will and everything will be fine. No playing not to lose. Don't take the Als lightly, but do not respect them.
2 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:It's all good. I'm deep into the CR, watching the 1984 Grey Cup, then going to watch some F1 in Vegas. Tomorrow I want to watch the Bombers give the Alouettes an old fashioned arse kicking. I remember back in the 80's when the Al's came to town with Vince Ferragamo et al and the Bombers just pounded them. I want that level of poundage once again. Cody Fajardo is a third-string bum. And tomorrow he's going to prove it.
For some reason, I remember Billy "White Shoes" Johnson more than Ferragamo, but not in any detail.
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I think the Bombers just might win this one (the 2021 repeat broadcast).
Again - I've been pre-gaming since last night.
Just now, Noeller said:Well, and Suitors kid was at the time an aspiring country artist living in Nashville, so Suitor I'm sure was trying to slip him a demo of some sort....
Ick. Was he any good? Such a tough slog. Know a few people in Nashville through a Music Camp that are toughing it out.
Wow - what a life I've lead...
This thread is so derailed...
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4 minutes ago, Noeller said:
Didn't they have the Arkells guy in the booth during that game?? Pretty sure they did.
Just came on, but he's a CFL fan and was pretty good.
And Suitor wasn't in love with him, so he kept pretty quiet.
Kind of wondering how badly a Green Day in the booth invite might turn out.
And not in a bad way.
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59 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
Whoa, whoa, whoa. There is no reason to tie a bow on this discussion now. There are still a lot more posts needed in the future to once again state how much the Argos suck. Let’s not shut this down now!
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20 minutes ago, Noeller said:
Ahhhhh man... I feel the shame. Based on the context of the tweet, I thought they were doing a CFL vs NFL debate. And I'm gonna be honest..... Why in the **** was anyone debating Brady O vs Kevin ******* Brown??? Good gravy.
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9 minutes ago, Noeller said:
It HAS to be a conversation and not a scripted Q n A session. That's something young journalists do... They over prepare because they're terrified of the conversation. It's just a lack of confidence more than anything. As you get more experience, you gain confidence and a comfortability with open conversations. But you're exactly right... You have to be willing and able to let the conversation go where it will. That's just my take anyhow.
As for MacLean, I don't know if there's ever been a better conversational interviewer in Canadian sports than him. And it comes from an insane encyclopedic knowledge of virtually everything. He's like a jeopardy contestant, that guy.
Don't want to say too much, but I know enough to know that some personalities that come across as authentic have actually (perhaps organically) become character actors. Not questioning his knowledge or memory, but I think it's safe to say that's why we might get along.
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1 minute ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
Ron MacLean is a really interesting take. He has taken a bunch of heat about his comments on the HNIC panel, and in the wake of the Don Cherry firing. And he tries too hard with the puns, I find. But I also do remember him doing one-on-one interviews with players where he really shone and asked great non-traditional questions. I guess the medium is so important too, like having a longer free-form discussion rather than a short media scrum where you get one question, or a canned talk show interview for 8-10 minutes. I like the “After Hours” segment on HNIC for that, think Scott Oake does OK with it.
Scott Oake is the first sports guy I remember not taking sports too seriously and it was so refreshing.
I know people who have worked professionally with Maclean and my opinion of him has dropped accordingly.
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3 minutes ago, Noeller said:
All I can say is my favourite sports writer ever is Ed Tait. In terms of on air conversation, Bob Irving and Ron McLean are my personal favourites. I always felt like Cory Woron has been criminally underrated over his career. I'm likely the only guy here that listens to Sirius XM Prime Country channel, but there is a guy on there named Mike Terry that is spectacular.
The great interviewers actually listen to the answers and are willing to allow their interviews to go off course. Nothing worse than interviewers ignoring answers that have obvious follow up questions.
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2 minutes ago, Noeller said:
Not a clue.... I was guessing maybe an NFL guy? But I think the only NFLers I know are Mahomes, Kupp and the Kelces....
Do you remember an early long rush TD against us against Edmonton this year?
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4 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
In your opinion, looking at talk shows specifically, is there anyone out there who does anything resembling a good job?
You’re not asking me, but there’s a world of difference between talk shows and interviews that really matter.
Letterman in the Netflix format is far superior to the old days because he has all the time he needs now.
As far as serious reportage, it’s hard to beat Maddow or Mehdi Hassan. They obviously put in the work.
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1 minute ago, Noeller said:
Getting good answers is on the interviewer to ask good questions. There are some guests that are new to the conversations and it can be a bit like pulling teeth, but I think the key is in your research. Learn as much as you can about your guest ahead of time, and then know the kind of things that interest them, and you lead with that. Gets them comfortable and allows them to open up a bit, then you ease your way into the stuff you want to know about. Don't just dive into the deeper stuff.
Of course, this is just my thought process and it's more about longer form chats, and not necessarily for media scrums. Scrums can be tough. The other thing is, today's athletes are media trained coming out of minor sports (seemingly) which has them giving the same generic soundbites that don't really give a whole lot away... It's innocuous and meant to not say anything that will rock the boat. It is almost impossible to get Connor McDavid to say anything "real"... Just how they are now.
Scrums are rarely meaningful. Proper interviews take 15-30-60 minutes and there are very few orgs that even afford that opportunity anymore. One of the reasons I like Sirius/XM so much.
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11 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
How does one train to make the interviewee feel more relaxed and open to telling a good story? What I mean is how much is on the interviewer’s skill and how much is simply having a good person on the other end to answer those questions? And how does the interviewer make the interviewee better?
By the way, just want to say that I’m really liking the organic way this topic about broadcasting came about in this thread and the points made by many, and especially the insights of those in the know. Really fascinating talk. Great discussion all around gents (and ladies).
Research, research and then more research. A guest respects someone who has taken the time to learn something about them and their work.
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1 minute ago, JohnnyAbonny said:
Still the most dominant DB I’ve seen in CFL football.
One of those obviously “too good for the CFL” guys.
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28 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
Straight rye in a 500 ml paper cup.
Nah. I learned my lesson drinking tea coloured rye and cokes with the RM employees.
27 minutes ago, 17to85 said:Squint hard if you're looking at hotel prices in Vancouver. Only way to make the numbers look smaller.
Can’t say enough good things about Davey St. Like being in Manhattan at a fraction of the cost.
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4 minutes ago, WinnipegGordo said:
I also think that if someone is border-line to get into the hall it would help if they contributed to a Grey Cup.
Guys like Roberts, Stegall and Brown didnt win Cups obviously however their individual accomplishments speak for themselves.
I think Jovon hung around long enough for the sheen to turn to rust.
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8 minutes ago, wbbfan said:
Not wrong though plenty of greats have gone under appreciated. Especially dbs.
I feel like it’s harder for dbs to get into the hof than most positions too.
35 picks 11 forced fumbles 8 defensive tds 77 pass knock downs 14 tfl 591 tackles solid but not spec-tactual return man. 188 games in 12 years with 185 starts. First db to win modp 2 time league all star 5 time divisional All-Star. 5th most int returns for tds all time.
His career ran long and past his prime, but his season with us alone were crazy.
before really looking at the numbers I was a toss up. On one hand if you aren’t like rod hill or Browne it’s hard to get in as a db. I think JJ is hof worthy, but not a slam dunk easy pick. It’s just much easier for des lbers WRs RBs and QBs to get in. Ol dt and db is more about reputation.
8 defensive TD’s is pretty incredible.
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33 minutes ago, Noeller said:
Ehhhhhhhhhhh..... He's a ways down my list of Bombers HOF inductees, never mind the league. I mean, Wade is in the Bombers hall for his ST contributions, so Jovon probably gets in, but.... It might be a minute. And the league hall? Ya I don't know about that.
He better get in before the BOAT load from these last 4 years are eligible.
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As far as entertainment interviews, David Fricke is as good as it gets. John Fugelsang kicks Howard’s ass to the horizon. But Howard does do some good interviews when he’s not crawling up his guests’ butts.
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2 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:
I listen to Howard Stern on Sirius XM a lot and his interviews are mind blowing, everyone wanting to know how to interview people should listen to how he does it. His preparation before an interview is bar none, he almost always blows away guests with how much he studies before he does his interviews.
Stern is a really good interviewer, but there are better interviewers on NPR who do it for less than 1/100th the cost.
Grey Cup - Game Week Thread
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Posted · Edited by Wideleft
That just might be 3Down's best article ever.
"The Winnipeg Blue Bombers showed no mercy embarrassing the Als 58-2 in front of a packed house at Winnipeg Stadium. Ferragamo was ineffective and managed just four first downs.
Remarkably, the Alouettes qualified for the post-season after winning just three games in the weak East Division. They played at Ottawa in the East semi-final and almost pulled out an upset in the game’s final moments. Ferragamo watched his last CFL game from the press box. His stat line from the year was miserable: in 13 appearances he completed 175-of-342 passes for 2,175 yards, with seven touchdown passes and an incredible 25 interceptions. Colour analysts suggested that when he dropped back in the pocket he was “scared to death.” "