Old Bomber Fan

Mark I appreciate your comment and I may have been off on his second year stats. The point I was making is he is progressing downward not upward. The majority of his goals and points, I believe come on the power play, he has a reputation from a youngster to the pros of being for myself first and the team second...he even announced it loud and clear when drafted second to Matthews.
of course you need goal scores on your team but i would certain argue that a team of 17 players playing for one another rather than a team of 17 players playing for themselves will always prevail over the latter. I can’t help but believe and I have been in many “rooms” that a person displaying the me first attitude that Laine has is a blister under the skin that grows until it bursts. Perhaps that what we saw last spring who knows. I do know that no one in that room is going to wash dirty laundry outside of it. Just my opinion I will also go out on a limb and say he will sign a bridge deal for 2 years at around 6.5 while Connor will sign for 6 years at 7 per year. After two years or sooner Laine will be traded. Just my thoughts right or wrong

Mark I appreciate your comment and I may have been off on his second year stats. The point I was making is he is progressing downward not upward. The majority of his goals and points, I believe come on the power play, he has a reputation from a youngster to the pros of being for myself first and the team second...he even announced it loud and clear when drafted second to Matthews.
of course you need goal scores on your team but i would certain argue that a team of 17 players playing for one another rather than a team of 17 players playing for themselves will always prevail over the latter. I can’t help but believe and I have been in many “rooms” that a person displaying the me first attitude that Laine has is a blister under the skin that grows until it bursts. Perhaps that what we saw last spring who knows. I do know that no one in that room is going to wash dirty laundry outside of it. Just my opinion I will also go out on a limb and say he will sign a bridge deal for 2 years at around 6.5 while Connor will sign for 6 years at 7 per year. After two years or sooner Laine will be traded. Just my thoughts right or wrong

I believe it has been said many times before but to repeat you play to win not play to not lose there is a huge difference. It doesn't mean you have to run up the score but you do have to play call to move the ball and retain possession. Should you score a TD per quarter or a field goal here or there is different than kicking a 3 point field goal with less than a minute remaining up by 20. There is a difference and I have a hard time believing professional football players cannot grasp the difference between being level headed yet fired up and level headed and relaxing. Momentum as has been stated so often in this forum and on TV is a big thing in sports....it can carry you to victory when victory seems lost or losing momentum can lead to defeat when victory seemed secure. Surely MOS and LaPo and Hall understand that so why then do they lay back, become predictable. As has been said here almost appears they outthink themselves. Will we win in November, that remains to be seem but unless the coaches change their approach our momentum is lost I fear.
 

Totally agree with DD. If we can’t beat a team with their #1 QB playing what are we saying...we want the refs to win it for us? Yes he likely should have been ejected but that is not the story of winning or losing....it is the play of the team starting with the coaching down to the execution. The players played well in the first half even though there were a few breakdowns.....the second half MTC adjusted we did too in the wrong way ...playing not to lose instead of playing to win. Same story for the 4 losses this year and even going back to last year. Until the mentality of the coaches change this will repeat itself time and again

Totally agree with DD. If we can’t beat a team with their #1 QB playing what are we saying...we want the refs to win it for us? Yes he likely should have been ejected but that is not the story of winning or losing....it is the play of the team starting with the coaching down to the execution. The players played well in the first half even though there were a few breakdowns.....the second half MTC adjusted we did too in the wrong way ...playing not to lose instead of playing to win. Same story for the 4 losses this year and even going back to last year. Until the mentality of the coaches change this will repeat itself time and again

Totally agree with DD. If we can’t beat a team with their #1 QB playing what are we saying...we want the refs to win it for us? Yes he likely should have been ejected but that is not the story of winning or losing....it is the play of the team starting with the coaching down to the execution. The players played well in the first half even though there were a few breakdowns.....the second half MTC adjusted we did too in the wrong way ...playing not to lose instead of playing to win. Same story for the 4 losses this year and even going back to last year. Until the mentality of the coaches change this will repeat itself time and again

I said it two years ago and will say it again, our OC and DC are not what everyone says they are. We have been told we need to improve talent....we did this and believe this year we have some of the best talent on both sides of the ball yet the same result.....minimal scoring on offense and cannot stop the opposition when it counts most. I'm not saying either didn't play well, I'm saying that they are not able to play to their potential because of the game plan put in place. To have the opposition start at their what 8 yard line with less than 2 minutes to go and not be able to hold them is frankly inexcusable. To have a quarter of football with a net production of -10 yards is inexcusable. The talent as we have been told is there and if it is what is causing this? Augustine had close to 100 yds rushing; we had over 300 yards in total offense; we had 3 sacks I believe in the game. Based on that one would think considering past stats that this game would have been a win. However when you play zone defense and give receivers 10+ yards to make a catch the result in normally an opposition will move the ball sufficient to end the game as Sask did today. Sask played a good game too so full credit to them. We played as well as we can but there is something nagging at me that says we are not allowing our players to play to their full potential.

I said it two years ago and will say it again, our OC and DC are not what everyone says they are. We have been told we need to improve talent....we did this and believe this year we have some of the best talent on both sides of the ball yet the same result.....minimal scoring on offense and cannot stop the opposition when it counts most. I'm not saying either didn't play well, I'm saying that they are not able to play to their potential because of the game plan put in place. To have the opposition start at their what 8 yard line with less than 2 minutes to go and not be able to hold them is frankly inexcusable. To have a quarter of football with a net production of -10 yards is inexcusable. The talent as we have been told is there and if it is what is causing this? Augustine had close to 100 yds rushing; we had over 300 yards in total offense; we had 3 sacks I believe in the game. Based on that one would think considering past stats that this game would have been a win. However when you play zone defense and give receivers 10+ yards to make a catch the result in normally an opposition will move the ball sufficient to end the game as Sask did today. Sask played a good game too so full credit to them. We played as well as we can but there is something nagging at me that says we are not allowing our players to play to their full potential.

our OC and DC are the problem with this team. One outthinks himself and can't get out of his own way. The other is to stubborn to realize zone defense doesn't work when you are playing to win the game. Giving the opposition receivers 10+ yards to catch a ball is laughable at best. Tighter coverage and much better tackling would have won that game in spite of everything else.

Whom ever the bomber sign as QB he will never see the field. Streveler can throw and he can certainly run. Patience will be a key for him. McGuire can play as well. I like his ability to throw as well perhaps a little better than Streveler and he can also run. My concern is two fold: will Lapo become too predictable a just try to run, on which case we will go nowhere and the other is how many reps will they both receive before game day. I dare say McGiver has had very few to date so he needs a lot of reps as does Streveler. IF our coaches can coach these guys we will be fine

Not sure why we would even consider Glenn. In training camp and based on last year's performance as well as that in training camp we had Streveler, McGuire, Bennett and Nichols. Now Nichols goes down and we released Bennett because our coaching staff determined that Streveler and McGuire were the better two of the last three behind Nichols. Okay so you have a half season to go should Nichols not return. I would hope that the decision of the backup QBs was based on something other than standing around holding a clip board. These two guys now have a chance to show us and the coaches that they made the right decision. As has been said many times before next man up so why change at QB. I think Streveler given some quality reps with the first team, McGuire given some reps as well will bode well for us down the stretch. If they both continue to develop as the season winds down, we are at the half way point right now, we should win a few more games and get us into the playoffs. Hopefully by that time they will be well conversant with the play book and be more comfortable reading defenses etc. 
My big concern isn't so much how these two will develop but rather can or will Lapo change his game plan to suit their strength and develop their confidence with a play book designed for them. He did it for Nichols, dink, dunk and once in awhile, last game example, toss it deep as a change of pace, so why can he not do that for these two. Steveler has a gun, albeit not as accurate right now as one would hope, but he can run and throw on the run as well. McGuire in the short period of time we have seen him can also throw it good and has a good escape ability. So we have a cushion to work with. Let's see what happens and should Nichols be able to return prior to the end of the season or the playoffs then let him take over again with a short leash. We all know when he returns from injury he isn't the same as when he left.
Time will tell.

Not sure why we would even consider Glenn. In training camp and based on last year's performance as well as that in training camp we had Streveler, McGuire, Bennett and Nichols. Now Nichols goes down and we released Bennett because our coaching staff determined that Streveler and McGuire were the better two of the last three behind Nichols. Okay so you have a half season to go should Nichols not return. I would hope that the decision of the backup QBs was based on something other than standing around holding a clip board. These two guys now have a chance to show us and the coaches that they made the right decision. As has been said many times before next man up so why change at QB. I think Streveler given some quality reps with the first team, McGuire given some reps as well will bode well for us down the stretch. If they both continue to develop as the season winds down, we are at the half way point right now, we should win a few more games and get us into the playoffs. Hopefully by that time they will be well conversant with the play book and be more comfortable reading defenses etc. 
My big concern isn't so much how these two will develop but rather can or will Lapo change his game plan to suit their strength and develop their confidence with a play book designed for them. He did it for Nichols, dink, dunk and once in awhile, last game example, toss it deep as a change of pace, so why can he not do that for these two. Steveler has a gun, albeit not as accurate right now as one would hope, but he can run and throw on the run as well. McGuire in the short period of time we have seen him can also throw it good and has a good escape ability. So we have a cushion to work with. Let's see what happens and should Nichols be able to return prior to the end of the season or the playoffs then let him take over again with a short leash. We all know when he returns from injury he isn't the same as when he left.
Time will tell.

Not sure why we would even consider Glenn. In training camp and based on last year's performance as well as that in training camp we had Streveler, McGuire, Bennett and Nichols. Now Nichols goes down and we released Bennett because our coaching staff determined that Streveler and McGuire were the better two of the last three behind Nichols. Okay so you have a half season to go should Nichols not return. I would hope that the decision of the backup QBs was based on something other than standing around holding a clip board. These two guys now have a chance to show us and the coaches that they made the right decision. As has been said many times before next man up so why change at QB. I think Streveler given some quality reps with the first team, McGuire given some reps as well will bode well for us down the stretch. If they both continue to develop as the season winds down, we are at the half way point right now, we should win a few more games and get us into the playoffs. Hopefully by that time they will be well conversant with the play book and be more comfortable reading defenses etc. 
My big concern isn't so much how these two will develop but rather can or will Lapo change his game plan to suit their strength and develop their confidence with a play book designed for them. He did it for Nichols, dink, dunk and once in awhile, last game example, toss it deep as a change of pace, so why can he not do that for these two. Steveler has a gun, albeit not as accurate right now as one would hope, but he can run and throw on the run as well. McGuire in the short period of time we have seen him can also throw it good and has a good escape ability. So we have a cushion to work with. Let's see what happens and should Nichols be able to return prior to the end of the season or the playoffs then let him take over again with a short leash. We all know when he returns from injury he isn't the same as when he left.
Time will tell.

First game this year I have seen so many bomber receivers within 5 yards of one another. Doesn’t take much to understand someone is running the wrong routes OR the play design is crazy! With that said Nichols was not good...why....only he can tell us. In any event if he plays like this in “big” games we will get to the playoffs and exit prior to western final. I don’t put all the blame on Nichols but instead distribute it to a Lapo and Nichols. Poor game plan and poor execution.

First game this year I have seen so many bomber receivers within 5 yards of one another. Doesn’t take much to understand someone is running the wrong routes OR the play design is crazy! With that said Nichols was not good...why....only he can tell us. In any event if he plays like this in “big” games we will get to the playoffs and exit prior to western final. I don’t put all the blame on Nichols but instead distribute it to a Lapo and Nichols. Poor game plan and poor execution.

First game this year I have seen so many bomber receivers within 5 yards of one another. Doesn’t take much to understand someone is running the wrong routes OR the play design is crazy! With that said Nichols was not good...why....only he can tell us. In any event if he plays like this in “big” games we will get to the playoffs and exit prior to western final. I don’t put all the blame on Nichols but instead distribute it to a Lapo and Nichols. Poor game plan and poor execution.

I would concur with the list with one exception.  QB. While I agree that Ploen was a great QB and really don’t disagree I think that the various eras have to be considered as well. “Indian Jack Jacobs” was likely the most dominant QB of that era and while he may not have won as many grey cups as Kenny he at least in my opinion was as significant as Kenny in his era. Nonetheless a good selection of players from the beginning to now. 

If we are talking QBs then what Strev has shown in his short time behind centre suggests he is a far better QB than Nichols....quicker decisions, better arm, better running, and spreads the ball around much better. However if you include the OC into the equation it may well be a different conversation. Many who have watched LAPO years ago see the same tendencies even today......he does not game plan for big strikes it’s all short and dump so he may well hinder what the QBs including Strev can and will do. With that said I totally agree from what I have seen Strev is a better QB and with some experience he will show he is a prototypes CFL QB. My hope is that both the OC and HC realize what they have....develop him and make sure he gets playing time so he doesn’t bolt to the NFL after this season. Make him feel wanted he seems like a real down to earth kid!

If we are talking QBs then what Strev has shown in his short time behind centre suggests he is a far better QB than Nichols....quicker decisions, better arm, better running, and spreads the ball around much better. However if you include the OC into the equation it may well be a different conversation. Many who have watched LAPO years ago see the same tendencies even today......he does not game plan for big strikes it’s all short and dump so he may well hinder what the QBs including Strev can and will do. With that said I totally agree from what I have seen Strev is a better QB and with some experience he will show he is a prototypes CFL QB. My hope is that both the OC and HC realize what they have....develop him and make sure he gets playing time so he doesn’t bolt to the NFL after this season. Make him feel wanted he seems like a real down to earth kid!

If we are talking QBs then what Strev has shown in his short time behind centre suggests he is a far better QB than Nichols....quicker decisions, better arm, better running, and spreads the ball around much better. However if you include the OC into the equation it may well be a different conversation. Many who have watched LAPO years ago see the same tendencies even today......he does not game plan for big strikes it’s all short and dump so he may well hinder what the QBs including Strev can and will do. With that said I totally agree from what I have seen Strev is a better QB and with some experience he will show he is a prototypes CFL QB. My hope is that both the OC and HC realize what they have....develop him and make sure he gets playing time so he doesn’t bolt to the NFL after this season. Make him feel wanted he seems like a real down to earth kid!

If we are talking QBs then what Strev has shown in his short time behind centre suggests he is a far better QB than Nichols....quicker decisions, better arm, better running, and spreads the ball around much better. However if you include the OC into the equation it may well be a different conversation. Many who have watched LAPO years ago see the same tendencies even today......he does not game plan for big strikes it’s all short and dump so he may well hinder what the QBs including Strev can and will do. With that said I totally agree from what I have seen Strev is a better QB and with some experience he will show he is a prototypes CFL QB. My hope is that both the OC and HC realize what they have....develop him and make sure he gets playing time so he doesn’t bolt to the NFL after this season. Make him feel wanted he seems like a real down to earth kid!

Their defensive game plan was to make Nichols beat them with his arm. Every DC in the country knows if you take away Harris you can beat us with a relative degree of ease if the other 2 phases play well. It is a combination of Lapo and his play calling and Nichols inability to throw accurately consistently like say a Reilly or a mitchel or a Harris. 

When I wrote they were the worst team I wasn’t referring to the bombers but Montreal. Regardless everyone who was saying how great we were and how great our talent was say the same things year after year without considering other teams improve as well. Our problem is our coaching and I’ve said it hat from day one! Many said give him a chance and now we have given them, all the coaches, what 4 1/2 years and what do we have to show for it! He still does not have a winning record while the likes of Campbell and jones have out coached him each year and even jones tore up a sask team and rebuilt it in two years....and I’m a bomber fan! It sure says a lot about our head office and more particular our head coach

When I wrote they were the worst team I wasn’t referring to the bombers but Montreal. Regardless everyone who was saying how great we were and how great our talent was say the same things year after year without considering other teams improve as well. Our problem is our coaching and I’ve said it hat from day one! Many said give him a chance and now we have given them, all the coaches, what 4 1/2 years and what do we have to show for it! He still does not have a winning record while the likes of Campbell and jones have out coached him each year and even jones tore up a sask team and rebuilt it in two years....and I’m a bomber fan! It sure says a lot about our head office and more particular our head coach

I think any coach who bends to the wishes of the fans, like us, is not a good coach. With that said any coach who cannot see that their offense has stalled, continues to stall in the second half of what the last 3 games, and does absolutely nothing about it other than try to justify it through stats, also is not a good coach. So either way you look at it MOS is not really a good coach and frankly doubt he will ever bring a Grey Cup to Winnipeg.