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Powell Collaros Youngster. Cuz I think Zach would need to be there cuz contract and just vet presence. That’s an ok group. Maybe that young guy is Elgersma.

So your prediction is Walters decides to leave or does not get renewed after this year (contract is up)?

I mean. Wilson was here all last year. He should have been superior. He really wasn’t. Artopoeous is a pure rookie to the cfl. I mean, dude also can throw the ball. Wilson has shown in a year and a half he really can’t. Artopoeous has the higher upside. But they should be bringing guys in. UFL going under and they got a QB on the neg list who looks interesting and probably would be a legit potential cfl starter.

In the end Walters traded Dru and In the end Walters didn’t pay Kenny. And in the end, Kyle will be a gm out east.

YUP...Been a slow steady build and we didnt do anything to prevent it really...if anything we fueled it....and are kinda scuffling now

Complacency can eventually lead to incompetence. Fear that has happened here.......

If we are unable to land any other legit number one prospect QB via either FA or trade, we have to bring all the guys back.....proclaim it's an open camp and have a true QB competition.....all guys get as much or even equal work with the #1's and whomever comes out of camp and has shown the best, and has the most tools in their toolbox to work with...then roll with them....Not much else we can do about it But another season going into camp with the declaring this guy is our guy here...thatguy there before a single snap is taken in TC is just the prelude to more of the same ol same ol And another good indicator is if we dont immediately say shortly after the season and pre free agency that we are moving on from player A thru F....again...expect more the same until HC and or GM are canned by game 6....thats if they are re-upped 12 YRS is a long time and with no signs of any deviation from what was previously done....dont expect it in yr 13....ya cut bait before we are cellar dwellers

HARD TO SAY....A player me not fit someplace...but fit nice other places....we prime example of that..Maston...Taylor...T.Jones ...Griffin as example...all discarded into the scrap heap....we picked them up...Maston and Taylor were key to our cup rin victory in 2019....T.Jones tho not the best has replaced Biggie and has actually improved this yr somewhat...especially when playing with the other Jones....Griffin...been one of our best defenders 2 yrs running now So to just be standing there wheels spinning and not even making an attempt just reeks of us thinking we good and the good ship Oshea is gonna magically turn around with minimal work done to it, And it's not...not this current group as we see it, and with the coaching so far this yr...it's just not We are a coupe of key injuries god forbid of plummeting right to the bottom as we have zero depth behind anyone...well proven deth that is, and we not givibg guys reps....in games where it's a foregone conclusion we arent gonna win, or the odd one where we up by 3 scores....which is odd and rare now didnt say that....but there are probably 3...4 guys who shouldn't be starting...and prob of that group a couple who shouldnt be on the roster. Also MOS cut adrift many guys last few yrs who out performed hold overs as well, younger guys with more athletic ability and nice skill sets ...just to run it back with what he is familiar with and had success...key word "had" yrs ago now. Would they have been better....who knows...but wouldnt be worse...would be hungry to earn and ake their spot and all had up side...just like any star in league had when they first got their shot.... I dont think that Osh is the best evaluator of talent....it's quite obvious from his roster decisions alone and who gets majority of reps. He values some things moreso over actual talent...The roon and other vets will control the room and guys will fall in line....it's been like that forever in any football locker room...it's not a new concept we created after Osh was brought in i not gonna mention names...and guys wont say it to the press...they will convey the usual narrative but there are players...current and past who have said this....and ys ...whether you wanna believe it or not some guys havn't came here for thatvery reason.....I'm not assuming this either....but like I said I will not say names total complacency....too much grey area of who is actually in charge and makes the hard decisions....too much buddy buddy And zero adapting and evolving....Osh still thinks his main guys and how to go about things is circa 2021....and we are eons from that era

What's it been, 12 seasons now of the Walters & Osh regime? At one time, we used to say that the Bombers needed continuity as we made too many GM & head coaching changes. Now, we've gone full circle & it seems that familairity breeds contempt. The Canadian Mafia has been together for too long. They've gone soft. Walters & Osh have lost their edge. Stupid personnel & coaching decisons the past 3 seasons have cost this team dearly. Time for a change before this team truly goes over a cliff losing games.

Looking forward to Nobody 2 this weekend. May actually go to the theater to watch it.

Bomber loss aside, it was a ridiculously entertaining weekend for the CFL. Four games decided by a total of nine points, all of them undecided until late in the fourth quarter. just the perfect mix of scrambly and dramatic. liked seeing Dru Brown and Rourke playing clutch in a league that really needs the next generation of QBs to step up. love this league.

300 and 327 yards passing, 28 and 31 points, several explosive passing plays, is our defence really showing a marked improvement? The past two, we've been good for a quarter (Calgary) or a half (Toronto) and then seem to have issues.

Well we saw a marked improvement in the defence with a couple tweaks... not sure that the receivers in house are enough to drastically improve that group but might get a bit more with a shuffle somewhere

yep 1 year. idk i feel like guarantee has changed, i think teams can offer as much as they want. soo many changes hard to keep track. But unless atleast one of walters/mos is gone it might as well be guaranteed. turd sandwich of decisions, but i’d do the same.

I know you are exaggerating to make a point, but there is ample proof that O'Shea has been playing favourites to the detriment of the team. That said, there seems to be a dearth of talent on this edition and a good deal of that blame lies elsewhere. Plenty of blame- enough to go around.

GMs don't build the roster, they just bring in the players. So..in your estimation we have all the OL/DL/receiving talent here to be tops in the division but MOS is refusing to play them? Do you know how highly unlikely that is?

I mean those pieces aren't going to make them better, but yea, we need to be way more active.

Other teams..making moves trying to find pieces that may work for them As we twiddling our thumbs believing we all good

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Two weeks ago? What does that have to do with your terrible take on thinking a guy throwing 9 passes in pre season is more then enough to show that he's a superior player. Did you not see how awesome Pigromes was a few years back in pre season?

he wont be like that in 2026 tho....may even be much better late this yr.....Everyone thinks he is what he is post surgery and thats not the case...especially 11 months removed....Judgment cant really be passed until a full camp next yr....actual weapons to throw to...and an OC that has half a brain.....ZC not so much tho...we have seen his slide now for 3 yrs...and he aint getting younger

ouch we know how this team works tho...a vet if signed before the season is basically locked up...also gauranteed to be starting in said position...I think if we can get assets for him this yr that will help us this yr...and next...we take that shot...especially if we are wallowing in 4th place yeah...I think we are stuck in a bad spot to be honest.....very bad foresight 2 yrs ago

So our options for 2026 are what: A declining Collaros at potentially high QB 1 $ Streveler who is limited as a passer and potentially no longer has the mobility he once had A youngster like Powell Older vet such as MBT or Fajardo I mean if it was me I'd go Powell because I like potential and upside.

its a one yr deal right?...so I think to have a guarantee portion it needs to be 3 yr deal....but I could be wrong

THATS what I said...Walters is involved in the National scouting...ie....Canadian draft G.M's dont build the roster...they bring in the players but DONT tell HC who to cut/retain....if thats happening your in real trouble as a franchise. So how is it telling y=that Osh keeps guysyr after yr rather than replacing them...If it's tellung anything it's saying Osh isnt held accountable to a certain degree Fact of the matter from HC up we been bumbling and stumbling and that combo has been a huge reason of our erosion and total lack of deoth and top line talent...and usually more times than not the HC is expunged before anyone.....or they clean house top to bottom....I think we need to change one of the pieces and see if that changes things for the better first....then go from there