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Nine games in (1/2 the season), six defensive tackles divided by X amount of reps = Jake hate?

Are we leaving quality receivers off the game day roster? There is your answer. That being said things will be looking up once Schoen is ready and Wilson inevitably returns.

Dillon Mitchell

Kola needed to be addressed in the offseason. It is abundantly clear that the coaches have no faith in Eli at C.

They started the season with 3 American OL... And again we go round and round... does the depth suck because of the GM or does the depth suck because of the way the coach uses the roster and practise roster? We have a brazzillion linebackers and dbs every game just to chase punts... why? We have 0 for receiver depth on an already weak group... why?

Look, I'm all in favor of a few reps here and there. However, not until the coaches feel comfortable with it. We have 3 years of these players being locked in, there is absolutely no reason to rush things. NAT draft picks are the one type of player that we can ripen on the vine. Yea...we could insert them into blow outs, but honestly those are practice reps as well.

you dont develop in practice...you need real reps...In games where the outcome was basically a non issue...and there been many....they should have got a lot of reps....but we risked our starters if for anything getting hurt in a lost cause....and we all know we can ill afford any injury Also it would make practical sense to allow then rotational reps here and there as well un a game ...we trot out other guys who in all reality do nothing for us and at times are a detriment...so really not trying your rookies...especially one whom was touted by many experts the most po ready guy in the draft

Do we want to win, or rush our draft picks into duty they may not be ready for? I have no issue letting first year draft picks develop slowly, it is usually of great benefit to both the team and the player. I am not understanding what short coming people are seeing that would require us to play Shay/Smith right now? If the argument is for a ratio shift along the DL, then are we willing to downgrade LBer play to get this done? Look I want every draft pick to be a starter sooner rather than later as well, but I see no benefit in forcing the situation when we are not necessitated to do so. More players are ruined than actually excel when put in that situation. There is a lot to dislike about our current roster but tossing players in just to see what happens is incredibly short sighted and probably leads to losses if we do it on any kind of scale. What's the concensus around here? That we should give up on this season and start going towards next year?

Noticed ayers in last game taking more reps, but agree OShea /Younger need to start putting more faith in younger guys like Smith and Shay that they raved about at the draft This would benefit our ratio mgmt greatly

Demski

Unless you gonna go 3 Americans on the oline there really is nothing that can be done. That’s an off season gm thing. Guess when your gm takes the off season off, this is what happens but sure the lack of depth is on O’Shea.

I'm in the camp of the guys wanting changes to the O'line. There hasn't been any talk about Wallace because the kid is a keeper. I like the versatility that Eli brings, and IMO he's also a keeper. I also agree with the guys wanting to move on from Kola, and I suspect that young Vibert is here as a replacement. Sadly I think big Stan's career is coming to an end.

That makes sense. Forgot Logan was a RB by trade. Right. The dline the last 2 weeks have been much improved tho. Thomas starting is mind boggling stuff when he doesn’t need to but at this point there’s no use complaining cuz Jake gonna go out on his terms. I’d like to see Thomas off and woods on but woods I guess isn’t ready and isn’t Canadian. If someone could ask O’Shea straight up why Thomas starts and gets all these reps and actually not accept the answer and question him if he watches tape that would be great but our media lacks balls.

Kornelson cut this morning.

haha....yeah I didnt even wanna bring up the offence side of things.....Cobb being on as opposed to Weitz or Thomas tho almost makes sense eh? But it's a really sad state of affairs that you depth receivers are those 2 guys, and that for the yr we have only had 1 guy on as depth...a rookie at that ....have sure dodged a bullet with not having 2 injuries on offence tho.....especiaLLY when we set out with a not ready Schoen and a guy in Demski who has been knicked up a lot the last few seasons...and as the only real threat now is gonna get beat to a pulp we just cahneg positions for them to make it seem like we have depth and coverage hahaha...Like Ayers as a dlineguy so people cant say we dress too few

Streveler and then Jefferson next mans up Also where did all the safeties go?

Hey, it gets worse, if a WR goes down the only back up is Corcoran.

We have 17 lb's/Db's on roster....38% of our roster....yet only 8 see actual "regular" reps....and another gets on in a lot of packages...A Canadian and gets abused relentlessly...was Hallet...Lately been Kelly....and if we get an injury, the bulk of those remaining 9 guys should never see the field...and the ones who should to see if they can contribute and grow...(Shay/Smith/Ayers and Jones when in) don't get any meaningful reps....someone explain that to me And then we also roll with our worst dline guy likely on the roster getting the most reps not counting WJ and Vaughters...another head scratcher....and we wonder why we have issues at times, and any injury issues and we hooped with nobody with any experience...let alone trust

Well there you have it, bigg jay for the win. Can't argue facts.

JT starting NT? Sure, why not. At this point it's just a big FU to anyone who thinks he should not be on the field.

This need to roster a team of STers to go with the Offensive team and Defensive Team needs to stop. And before anybody says it, STs is not 1/3 of the game if you count the reps. Offense and Defense will have somewhere between 50-60 reps each per game and STs is usually about 20.

You keep saying this but it's not really true. I went back and looked at the draft history since 2015 and we are above the league average when it comes to retaining our OL draft picks beyond their rookie deals. I only looked at the first 2 rounds so the numbers could be better or worse overall but I was looking at the top rated OL (excluding guys who fell due to NFL interest). It was surprising how few actually last past 3 years with their original team. BC - 6 OL drafted, only one stayed past their rookie deal (Godber). EDM - 5 OL drafted, only one stayed past their rookie deal (Beard). CAL - 3 OL drafted and 2 have stayed past their rookie deal (Sceviour & Bell). I was a bit surprised at how few high draft picks the Stamps have used on OL. SSK - 5 OL drafted, only one stayed past their rookie deal (Fry). WPG - 6 OL drafted, 3 stayed past their rookie deals (Chungh, Couture, Gray). Dobson, Desjarlais & Spooner are the ones who didn't play at least 4 seasons with us. HAM - 5 OL drafted & 2 have stayed beyond rookie deal (Revenberg & Woodmansey). TOR - 9 OL drafter with 5 staying past their rookie deal (McEwen, Sackey, Hunter, Richards, Nicastro). They also still have Doxtater that they drafted in 2021 but he bounced around down south so he's only in year 2 with them. OTT - 7 OL drafted with 3 staying past their rookie deal (Mateas, Lauzon-Seguin, Pelehos). MTL - 6 drafted, only 1 has stayed past their rookie deal (Lestage).

Yup....3 Canadian DT's...pointless when one is useless really ....Weitz as well...totally redundant and will never see field other than teams...we have enough of those guys...we could have added Bailey for Thomas and had the same amount of dline guys...Ayers is not an effective dline guy and why they keep trying to make that happen is ridiculous...and kept on Peterson in liei of Weitz....rostered Cobb....gave Vibert some reps....and if game got oit of hand for the good...or bad tried him at center.....but Osh does the expected Curious to see tho if OC guy knows how to utilize Logan and have some packages with both him and BO.....Doubt ot tho... well we have 2 stud Canadian LB who deserve a shot to get some reps as a backup...So Ayers as we have this brain numbing idea to have him as a Dlineman...theres a way

We added lawson in middle,only other option would be woods, but what import would you have sat, since Jones was already put on pr

I understand the "math" behind it .. I just look at the defensive side of the ball and see a giant hole right in the middle of the defensive line.