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Okay I really really want TCM to find a way around the CRTC during 31 days of Oscar because they are airing Tender Mercies and I want to see it (there's a site that shows what they're going to show next month including the schedule changes for Canada) https://deadline.com/2026/02/robert-duvall-dead-1236726076/

Nfl tc money is not the same as pr though. Last year, players with less than 1 year service got 1850 a week. this year that goes up to 2k. For a full camp, plus the pre season games, guys with less than a year service get around 11-15k. Which is in the range of 15-20k canadian, before taxes. It only takes a couple weeks on a pr to out earn a cfl deal, but elgersma isn’t in that position. He as of yet hasn’t gotten a futures contract or camp invite even. To get that, he will now have to beat out an entire new rookie crop. This based off a preseason appearance, and a cis resume. He isn’t rourke, and rourke has basically no leverage and got barely a shot. I understand chasing nfl pr money, but he isn’t making some easy, economically sound decision. He’s gambling for more money with a pretty small chance of wining. The time to get a look now is counting down his nfl widow days after a cfl deal as well. If he kicks around for another year then comes up, he puts him self in a tight spot. He turns 25 next month, it’s going to be 2 years before he would get nfl consideration if he fast tracks to success. At that point he’s 28 for the next nfl camp, right at the end of his nfl window. I get it, but it’s long term, short odds gambling. At this point, I’d be happy if we traded his rights and sold high on him.

from the 3 Down article posted on the last page. It was Collaros speaking about Clercius not the other way around. Kevens Clercius and Joey Corcoran both started games at field-side wideout in 2025, though Clercius was publicly berated by Zach Collaros for a mistake late in the regular-season and subsequently benched for the playoffs.

None because this isn’t even what was reported. It was reported that Clercius made some mistakes and was criticized by Collaros for those mistakes. No where has it been reported that Clercius criticized Collaros.

Its not about paying him because he deserves it. Its about being able to draw Canadians that are borderline guys to the CFL. Why would Elgersma sign in the CFL right now? The money just doesnt make sense. If it was double what it is now, im sure he'd have a much more difficult choice. And not just qbs either, there are more and more guys getting attention down south that will never actually play there. But $$ speaks, and right now the CFL rookie contracts are barely whispering.

I think the 'show me the money' quip should be laid at the feet of Elgersma's agent also...Sometimes I wonder if any of these guys have the true interest of their client at heart....money being the 'only' motivating factor for some of them....Obviously it looks like at the moment, things for the kid are drying up, and he should be casting his eye northward in earnest...IF his representative is just blowing smoke up his arse, I think Elgersma would be wise to seek out another agent...If our draft pic shows little or no interest in attending tc....looks like a bust ,and his football career will have come to an abrupt halt...Somehow I think he'll show up here when saner heads prevail

There isn't any explanation, other than failure to recognize the player(s) is incompetent....What measurables used by Osh to make his decisions are tough to pin point....The 2 players you mention were obviously not good enough ....one due to 'best before date' long expired, and the other was out of his depth at the position or as some have put it 'just plain crap' ...I don't know why they were not treated the same as Clercius and benched....only Osh can answer that...It certainly smacks of favoritism and if you allow that to permeate your club ....one day it will all catch up....Seeing as both players are no longer on our roster maybe the coach has had a revelation...One can only hope ....I won't hold my breath

Yeah clercius basically makes a play with his targets...and is a guy teams need to pay attention to, as has been seen in his very short time starting with several big plays And hes just basically in early stages if his career and with more use..will put up more numbers Not his fault hes never the primary guy...has a qb who tends to zero in and force most balls to his one or two favorites as other guys are running free...proper use and actual focused plays and he would get it done...dude has best hands on the team after Lawler left Corcoran should be injury depth at most...has shown nothing really and if his game isnt elevated this camp he should be gone or on the PR..he can't up his metrics..is what he is and will basically just be a place holder in a group of 5..and be a 1 or 2 catch guy a game for 18 yards and really be no threat...Clercius can and has gotten yac..can run away from and run over guys as we have seen..feed him some balls...see the results Yeah...id like to see this as was first i heard of it...and in all honesty...ZC deserved a ton of criticism for a whack of throws....and the inability at times to even get a throw off due to his tunnel vision of his fav target and not seeing the other open guys

Any actual proof?

clercius is 26, and started for a bit over a year and a half. Stoddard was in the league 9 years and broke 500 yards twice. Clercius last year was better than 5 of stoddards 9 years in the league and on the heels of his 6th best year. its a terrible comparison, if any thing corcoran is a poor man’s stoddard in a far better era for ni wrs.

Clercius best season is still not as good as Jamie stoddards best season. I think really what it comes down 2 is both aren’t really good enough. 57 targets. 40 catches. That’s not great.

Sounds like Josh may be back soon.

12 targets in 18 games or less than 1 a game shows that a) You can't get open and b) Teams don't view you as a threat. Clercius had 57 in 18 games or over 3 a game. Cobb had 8 in 4 games or 2 per game.

Really? I don't care if you're the 5th option, 12 targets still suck. And they tried to bring Corcoran in to help block on end arounds etc. and he wasn't good there either. If he had shown anything in terms of making a catch in traffic areas maybe he'd have shown more potential. But you are right in that really the 5th receiver behind Wilson, White Demski,and Nield doesn't need to show much, but the issue becomes when a Nield or Demski goes down and Corcoran has to elevate his game, nothing I've seen says he can do that .

He should have said 2 proud Canadians who refused to sign with Canadian nhl teams coming down on a 2 on 1.

Thomas theme song:

Taylor Elgersma. "Someone? Anyone? Please... show me the money. A dream is such a terrible thing to waste."

Why? The jets would have beaten France 10 2 also. The worst nhl team would beat France 10 2. Hell, the local AAA sharks who I played for years ago probably would have beaten France 10 2. Assuming I let in 2 goals. Nothing to learn watching this game. Only thing you learn is some guys on France should be in my kids skating lessons group.

So the rumoured fight between Zach and Kevens wasn’t even a fight? It was a Kevens said something and Zach got butt hurt? Oh boy that’s worse than a fight cuz they grown men so criticism should not be a problem. I don’t buy it tho. I’m not sure this happened honestly. Kevens struggled last year like everyone did, Zach was bad also. When everyone is bad, it’s hard to properly assess what actually happened. Corcoran might have started cuz Keven’s was banged up or even struggling hard with the O. The fact Brady Zach and others called out the O multiple times and not directly but just about called out hogan by name a few times and weren’t benched or given repercussions makes me think there was no argument or disagreement. It was just a struggling player being replaced by another guy. Maybe looking for a guy to step up cuz outside of Demski and Wilson nobody did including Kevens. It’s not like we lost cuz Corcoran started. Christ.

Yup. I think he actually underestimated how much the gm does. It’s not just signing free agents. It’s drafting. It’s scouting. It’s making sure guys get along even. The captain of the ship and Nashville has been sinking hard the last few seasons. They are worse off than we are but in a very desired location. Says it all there. Helle being hurt killed the team this year. Also JT taking half a year to shake the rust off. What killed Nashville was signing free agents to disgustingly big money deals. It didn’t work out. Can’t buy a team. Trotz tried tho.

You mean the 5th option doesn’t get as many targets as the 1st or 2nd option. Shocking. Learn to block. Sounded like maybe being a rookie in a hogan led O taught players nothing. I’m not sure how anyone can **** on a rookie in a hogan led O. It’s just crazy. If you talking about O problems last year, our 5th receiver option is prob near the bottom of the list in terms of issues that plagued the team all year. I mean I like Demski but if he’s your number 1 guy for most the year, there’s bigger issues than the 5th receiver option. The Jamie Stoddard comparison to these guys are interesting as 5th option guys really. Seems like Corcoran was on pace if he had 40 receptions like Clercius to about 400 yards like Clercius had. Stoddards good years were around 400. Looks like he had a 500 yard receiving season also tho but as 5th options cuz that’s what Clercius and Corcoran should be, that’s pretty much the norm. If your 5th option has more yards it means options 1 to 4 suck.

They tried pretty hard to make that work later in 24 and earlier last season when the injuries started to hit. Can't win enough routes to bring value. The home game against Calgary was basically the end of that experiment. Hard to put guys inside that aren't a threat. He's been ok on the outside when he gets forgotten where he doesn't really have to win with leverage. Clercius might get a shot to be more of a vertical threat with Condell because IMO we don't really have anyone but Wilson who is in the current group. Kinda pissed we didn't grab Daniel Wiebe in the late rounds last season instead of drafting a DL who clearly wasn't invested in being a pro player. Will be great depth for Sask especially at Y/R slot spots, throw him out at Z if you need. Too bad Rohan Jones likely won't ever play up here. He's an actual tight end/H back type who is also a big threat from any receiver spot or the backfield.

boy I hope some Jets players were watching that game

And prob was justified criticism..as he had a ton of crap throws...grow a pair ZC and do better...u too Osh And best hands on team And have ability to do some Nothing after catch...hes a total non factor...but tries hard lol One mistake constitutes a benching...but other favs can just plain suck..and make mistakes and be exposed...yet are safe as safe can be...thats some good coaching right there... Explain kolo..Thomas..amoung others...

Total bs reason to...guys bicker all the time and one princess' ego shouldn't trump talent...maybe in Osh world it does as his ego permeates stupid roster decisions And for all ZC good...he can also be a lil biatch...suck it up buttercup