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I love strev, but you’re 100% right about crum. he has that resilient toughness and that fine a way to win that brown has. I wouldn’t want to be depending on crum becoming a qb1, but i sure like him as a back up. And hes got tons of tread left.

what sets him apart is 1, he’s the only lber worth a damn when it comes to pass rushing, and 2 he’s the only guy who can be a run stop mlb and can get back in pass cover. We love to blitz lbers and none of them are effective not just in pass rush but even in eating a block. Kyrie is capable in the run game if he’s not blocked. he can’t get off blocks or close gaps with linemen in them. jones would be the front runner for modp, if he was capable in pass D. he’s been in the area but just not getting deep enough because he has no coverage instincts or ability to read the qb/play. he’s great at scraping to the ball but that’s it. All he brings is the ability to run after ball carriers. thats good in the run game but not in coverage. And the cfl is a passing league. Lber is the least impactful position in the cfl, unless you have some monster like wynton. Which is why soo many teams are flipping the ratio at lber. it makes so much more sense to start a canadian at lber especially if they are athletic outliers. The roster impact you might lose in starting smith/shay, vs what you could get back 4 fold with adams/woods or lofton/4th imp ol. And for my money, shay/smith platooning with J jones you gain a lot. because you won’t have to hide a lber. and you don’t have to dress an imp db to play wil.

Good points and I was likely a little harsh, my overall thought was that our roster needs work and we don't really have as many standouts as you would like.

I'm sure there are teams who would take Kramdi. Rotate or start at WIL.

Depends what team. Maybe Randolph or Vanterpool on O for a team only missing one piece on their line. I’m sure BC for one would take Person, Wilson, Woodbey or J. Jones on D. Griffin would probably fit in somewhere too. Cam Lawson would probably do really well on a team with a 4 man front. I’m sure a couple our ST or developmental linebackers could improve coverage on another team (or maybe even take reps!), About the one thing we have this year that’s top-tier is the kick/punt coverage.

O-Kolo, Mitchell, Wallace or Neufeld D-Vaughters, Vaval, D.Lawson Jake as well. A better question is to me outside of Demski, Brady, Pokey on offense and Nichols and Holm on D, is there anybody else on our roster other teams would start? Want?

What intrigues me about this conversation is some say don’t get in a tizzy about players like JT way down the totem pole of importance, focus more on your top 10-15 players. I get that in the sense that your team is as good as your top 5 players are. If my 5 best players play better than your top five best players, I will usually win. However what i’m also hearing is we have a serious problem pressuring the opposition QB and protecting our own QB. So in terms of our trenches, specifically on the D side, should not our starting NT (knowing it’s not the only positional D issue on this team e.g WJ floating around freelancing with little impact) be in our top 10-15 best players? Might it be something we invest in more knowing it may take away from another area? Just a thought from an armchair pretend GM.

if your DT made a difference...or any minimal impact...it reverberates to the ends...and other DT...the teams who's ends eat...have a DT or nose who are collapsing the pocket...and sending the QB right into them When WJ...Jeffcoat....the Hansen Kingbo rotation was feasting and causing havoc...They had Nevis...Stove...Sayles....guys of that ilk causing issues inside

Drew was ok but some of you misremembering how important he was. This fascination with drew and Kenny like they make a difference when there’s dudes in and on the qb almost as soon as the ball arrives at times is wild.

On O it’s Kolo Neufeld and Wallace right now. lol at receivers when the QB is on his ass in 2 seconds. on D. They rotate a bit but it’s probably Vaval Lawson and Willie or Vaughters. I know. Not Jake. And that’s cuz with Jake I don’t expect him to make a difference. I expect the ends to make the difference and they haven’t. I think tho it’s really CBs Safety and DL in general. But I mean maybe it’s scheme there if regardless who are corners are we get burned. Likely combination

Issue appears to be mainly OL and DL related. Let’s check the PR. Ohhh umm well…. Hmm ok. 2 DT in Adams and woods and a DE in bailey. and OL we got Vibert and Mayers. get them on

Strev is a legend but unfortunately time has not been kind to him. I’d rather we see Wilson also but I fully expect Zach to be starting. I’d be sorta surprised if Zach isn’t starting

I’m not sure. Tony and Kyrie both have been solid. What makes J Jones better besides I mean, he’s a backup. I don’t think the LB crew has been the problem. Don’t see how he improves it honestly. Least of concerns there really. DL in general and CB are the problem areas on D. Safety also. And if we looking at LB I’d be giving Shay and smith reps instead. And Woodbey and Ayers who are natural linebackers. Few guys ahead of mr jones it seems.

Bryant Kolo and Neufeld all need replacing. Can start with Kolo. Eli couldn’t be worse. If he is, get Vibert on then. He’s a center isn’t he? Vanterpool for Neufeld. Bryant Wallace Eli Vanterpool Randolph

Didn't Jake Thomas used to take reps at oline back in the day.... I think I found a solution !!

Turnstile would be an improvement... he's barely even a pylon out there.

Ya I'm not saying he's been bad but I just didn't expect him to stay healthy.

Crum has shown more then Strev. I'm a huge Strev fan (used to be my avatar for a few years on here) , but without his legs being healthy he's just not going to cut it. Sadly a guy like Dolegala would of been a better back up since he at least has the health to drop back and toss a dart (even if it is off target) and also being able to take a hit and get back up.

It just feels like the Blue 3 seasons ago were able to physically beat up teams and roll in depth players to keep legs fresh and were able to out muscle teams which would then lead to the turnovers on D and far more holes for the run game + time in the pocket for Zach. I said the same thing last season around this time of the year, they haven't been able to dominate anything at all. This team has absolutely no edge and are limping along. We need fresh faces and a pulse badly.

I had my doubts about Vaughters after the Stamps shed him, but we've had success with other teams' castoffs. Whatever oomph he had seems to be gone.

Which is where the dearly departed Wolitarski thrived.

Neuf needs to go along with said turnstile. Especially if i contribute my culinary skills ....:)

Wallace is loaded with potential and we will not know how good Neufeld still until the turnstile at center is upgraded.

Old school and tough as nails.....nothing wrong with that and quite frankly this club can use a whole lot of that about now

Oh I agree less than adequate starters make great backups on back third of their careers in some positions....especially ones with experience for if/when they have to come in a mixture of that and young guys earning their stripes on teams...is where you succeed But for most part...we have no clue of what many of the backups can do cause when have we seen them?....