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Unless ofcourse youre in a most STD's or smallest wiener competition. In those cases losing would be preferable.

Yep, I've tailgated in at least 8 different lots around the stadium (9 if you include the official tailgate area) and I'm sure there's more that I haven't yet. I hope somebody posts video from a Banjo Bowl tailgate for this guy so he can see what it's supposed to look like.

Ah mean, the Labour Day loss is really gonna rattle some cages...😁

Wins are definitely superior to losses.

I also would have preferred a win

Sports attract hard-headed people; how else would sports or teams survive dark eras like the Reinbold, Kelly, etc? That said, a higher standard of conduct is to be expected from a professional in any field. Especially in a customer-facing entertainment field. And I don't think that is some crazy, unfair expectation. HCs don't need to be amiable; plenty of the most successful coaches have been grumpy at the best of times. But any HC in any pro sport needs to be able to grow and change with time in order to survive.

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Is this site real cuz I’m a bit mind blown reading some of this stuff from a few of you. I mean the posters who refuse to accept criticism or refuse to actually acknowledge they could be wrong In their opinions don’t like O’Shea cuz he’s smug arrogant and I quote “O'Shea has repeatedly demonstrated that he is rigid in his thinking and thus resistant to change or criticism. His personality is such that, if pressured, he will double down.” He’s just like you guys who complain the most about him.

Tommy Stevens

Ok, then I clicked the wrong button, my apologies

Brady O

Well coukdnt post...so hence...banned from posting....no further comment

@Booch a warning is not a ban. No further comment

I’ll get results up tomorrow but can start putting this weeks picks below.

There's a Schoen interview in the Sun today which would be a little strange if he is injured again. Usually injured guys don't talk to the media. Obviously he isn't 100%, we all saw him pull up at the end of the game, but seems like he is "ok" to me. https://winnipegsun.com/sports/football/cfl/winnipeg-bluebombers/blue-bombers-dalton-schoen-thrown-right-back-into-labour-day-fire?itm_source=index

Thing is, both those teams fell backwards into MOP level QBs. Like we did late in 19. But who would be available for that type of swing going forward? Zach was hit double-digit times in the LDC, which is the worst case for any QB. How much longer can he hold up under that kind of barrage? Even at that, his arm is just barely enough to get by on deep balls now. We have no margin for error with him now, and no foreseable escape plan at QB. Yep, I think both came as a forced evolution due to the fact that neither line is capable of bully ball. Hall used to be able to get pressure with 4 guys. it took a while to get the guys able to fit that need, and people hated his soft saggy coverage. But when we had enough guys to rotate through and get pressure with 5 or less his D flourished. On O, we went from a team that could run on any one, to a team that could run on most teams, to now a team that can only run on weak run Ds. I don't think full scale blows ups and lengthy rebuilds work out very well in the CFL. But in order to turn it around you 1, have to be willing to spend top dollars on other teams FAs, and 2, find your self with a QB who can win and has enough tread on the tires to play your window of compeitition. I don't think we have either of those factors right now. 100%. And Walters has shown a reluctance to put on his big boy pants with mos.

I might have said this before, but basically in 2019ish guys like Thomas and Kramdi were depth pieces, now they're starters... canadian talent fell and I don't really see their plan to improve it. Sure Wallace is an up and comer, but neufeld is on his last legs, Kolankowski never had any legs to start with... Eli been her a while and never gets to start... Brady and demski sure they're great, but demski is not young, clercius good young... but we're looking at a couple nice young pieces, a few older guys and then a lot of meh.... since apparently the linebackers we drafted are just special teamers...

Or just demote him...or to save face...as we know Osh won't admit he screwed up...another flaw...just promote Jackson and have them both as co-offensive coordinators The expectation that Hogan wouldn't struggle and look way out of his element with zero real relevant experience was a fools game from the start We dragged our feet way to long announcing a hire...Osh said we in no hurry and its all good...pretty much into free agency...prob a good reason why we maybe didnt land one of those top WR that were Free agents...they wanna know who they gonna be playing for...or the guy we promoted got a big ol no thanks from them...as players aren't stupid either

I would be good if they just fired Hogan first - just to show some spirit. Hogan's play calling (if not design) leaves much to be appreciated... maybe he will improve... unlikely...

That management and coach shifted how they do it...the smugness here hasn't and from anything he says...and how he acts...Likely won't First step in change is almost always the HC...that's where u start...past history...good or bad be damned...means nothing looking forward

O'Shea has repeatedly demonstrated that he is rigid in his thinking and thus resistant to change or criticism. His personality is such that, if pressured, he will double down.

Roster turn over only by injury..(don't ban me again @Mark H. as injury is only way we change) or by defection...not from a guy out playing or showing more potential. Many instances of guys out playing vets in preseason...yet never or rarely get kept..or if do don't get a shot and rot on PR Don't have to replace every one at once but 1 or 2 a yr...and your roster fluidity thrives and your depth/backups become actually capable...be it a new face or a vet pushed to backup roll...we fail miserably at that here due to Osh way of rostering and penchant for valuing any vet regardless of skill..its very apparent @wbbfan hit nail on head with his post. Walters needs to step up and be the boss and if he gets resistance by his coach then needs to rectify it And if he can't perform that task the Prez who technically is the owner here needs to make some decisions And as u said here @17to85..standing pat...resting on your laurels and living with your past success thinking it will manifest again...pretty much pushing 6..7 yrs now is just asking to fail...just as your roster has to evolve and change...your way of doing things...how you coach and scheme needs to as well...especially 12 yrs into it...

Interesting discussion. I agree that the HC has significant impact in what type of players/who the GM drafts and signs. The GM is not going to sign someone the HC will not play - does not make economic sense. I agree we have spent significant time living in 2019-2022 - and staying consistent with our approach. We should all acknowledge (and hopefully the powers that be) - that i) we have been unlucky/unwise with the free agent signings, ii) we have held on to some players far past their best before dates, iii) have had some significant injury woes, iv) seemingly utilized poor roster management, and v) made a questionable choice on OC. I don't think that the Bombers are at the 'fire everyone' stage, even though as fans we are frustrated, with that frustration stemming from a 'stay the course' attitude - instead of innovating, stagnating. We see from the outside looking in - that the organization seems to be unwilling to evolve. Miller/Walters/Osh would be better off to become a bit flexible, be willing to accept a bit of change. I have been pretty frustrated - but I don't want to go back to the Reinbold years, and almost 30 years without a cup. The understand we are going to lose - but we should not lose due to effort, planning or leadership. If Miller/Walters/Osh make strides to better decision making - I will be happy - even if we don't make the playoffs. You can't expect some of the older players to play like all-stars all the time, but one should expect that you have someone rostered who can spell them off - so they are fresh. Apologies for the rant!

And this is a big reason why I don't think we necessarily need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. If the Stamps can turn it around with the same management then so can we.

IMO, there have been 2 major shifts in philosophy: On D, less focus on pressure and more coverage. Richie Hall brought far more pressure, even though he usually had a better secondary than they have now. On O, more downfield passing and less bully bull On STs, interestingly enough, they gone back to more the aggressive style of play we used to see.