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The Bombers sometimes will remind me of the place I work. This one guy has showed up 3 times in May, 4 Times in June and so far zero in July. Yet one day he'll come in and it will be like nothing has happened, as usual. Some managment groups only make changes when it is 100% necessary or the change is made for them. Otherwise they'll just ignore the problem.

I think they still would... if they weren't gassed before they got to the wall. It's like I said before, too much complacency from the coach. I suspect a losing streak would alleviate that but as long as the team wins more than it loses it'll still be there.

The head ref can overrule his assistants in soccer - methinks football should be the same.

I don’t think there’s a lack of a plan. The plan just doesn’t make a ton of sense. We just completely re-configured our front office this offseason and added more bodies. What was the net effect? Our pro scouting highlighted guys who can’t crack our roster (J. Jones, Mitchell, etc) and our crop of recruits got us what … one new body? And the shine has worn off of him since he seems to be getting worse, not better? Great. What’s the draft plan? Okay, basically just draft guys to play special teams? Shay, Smith? Can’t give them D reps. Why would we? What’s the roster plan? OL - washed. DL - gassed. LB - not versatile enough to fit our DC’s preference. WR - thin. Okay so what do we do to adjust? What’s the coach’s plan? Doesn’t really seem to have one these days. Doesn’t affect much in-game. Our halftime adjustments seem invisible. The leash on underperformers is infinite. Won’t challenge anything. Won’t use the roster rules. And the overarching point everyone used to make - players would run through a wall for him? Do we see that drive out there anymore? I don’t.

I've heard him say that but I don't know if I buy it. Biggie's injury forced their hand at linebacker - even if they kept him, he's still out so a replacement was needed either way. There's always turn over in the secondary (Alford, Rose, Houston for example) so moving on from BA & Ford just seems like regular occurrence rather than a plan. And like I said, they already had internal replacements so it's pretty easy to do when you have 20 other guys to choose from. If there's a plan, why does it include leaving the DL so thin that we can barely spell off the few guys we do roster on gameday?

He was very open about how you can't do them all at once... Have to do a bit at a time. Now, having said that, nobody would argue that Jake should have been part of the purge by now.

But these moves safe for Ford are in line with Walter’s plans to let a few move on per season rather than needing to replace them all at once. There’s only a few left at this point

dline has needed help since we lost Kongbo...Stove....Nevis...Sayles...even Hansen and we made it worse by low balling Jeffcoat into retirement....injury issues?...I call b.s on that as we continued to sign/play BA...Biggie...Grant (until we effed that up) Hallett...and others who were always walking wounded and missed chunks...Only reason why the other Hallett is gone is because he physically cant do it anymore We of recent have some more than capable guys....but they play second fiddle to Osh's fav's....Even the strange decision to not re-up Fox and Garbutt was flawed and short sited as both playing well in Ham and would definately be helping here....likely tho they wanted to try free agency and actually get real playtime elsewhere...others have left here for that reason...a couple I also know alomost did but got talked into staying by some vets here Guys who know they can play...wanna play....you can be the best team guy in the world but when you have to consistently take a back seat to an inferior coach's preference....you can only stomach it for so long

Ford was going to his brother's team...and out priced himself any way...so out of our hands there Biggie...was hurt...and not gonna be ready....if not hurt....he was gonna be here...if Osh continues to roster Thomas..kolo..Scmeck....Wilson...Scmeck....you know damn well Biggie would have been here BA...is maybe the only one we chose to move on from...did we low ball him tho like we did Jeffcoat?...quite possible...who knows 100 percent that was taken out of his hands....he wont be playing next week either...or week after I bet...9 months out...for an aged player...at his position?...nahhhh....and if he does try that soon....gonna really tarnish the last memories fans will have of him

They didn't move on from Ford, he walked away. Biggie, I have no doubt, would still be here if he hadn't shredded his knee. He's still not healthy enough to play so that should have been a no brainer. I'll give you BA but let's not pretend they had some big wholesale change planned. Those 3 are also at positions where we have depth so we could roll with guys we already had - the D Line has needed help for a while but we haven't seen a whole lot of movement. It's also not just about moving on from older players, it's about how they are being used. Thomas has absolutely no business being a starter taking tons of reps but here we are. If he was being used sparingly as a backup, you'd see way less posts about him. As much as I love WJ, it's plain to see that he should not be on the field as much as he is.

But was that osh or did walters take that one out of coaches hands? Cause let's be honest, if biggie was under contract oshea would 100% be playing him.

Who is pointing out over and over again that MOS doesn’t move on from anybody? I’m confused. I haven’t seen that. And you laughing at the loyalty for certain players makes me think you may not be paying attention to what MOS has said about certain longstanding BB players.

Just to point out, there are the same folks over and over pointing out how Osh won't move on from anyone. This is not actually correct. Even just this past year we moved on from three major parts of the defense - Bighill, Alexander and Ford. The idea that they don't get rid of aging vets when they did not re-sign two guys who helped transform and start this era of success is completely overlooked. You can argue he didn't get rid of the right guys or enough players, and that's fine. But I laugh at the idea that Osh is too loyal to move on from guys like Jake Thomas when he's letting go of Adam Bighill. The reason Thomas is on the team, for instance, is that Osh views his performance differently than say someone else here. And that's fine! You can criticize him for that if you are unhappy with literally any player that is getting playing time. Looping back every discussion to the same issue (as if it's always just one thing) merely subtracts from the football discussion on the board.

if anything...learn from past losses....and why....and adjust/change things.......and not repeat it....continually.....easy concept most coaches grasp.....most

Only 60 per game? No negative point totals for the opposition? Lowered expectations, man.

Can't it just be 2022 regular season every year???

Well then .maybe the team should be perfect and win every game 60-0?

That's every thread. "This team, and all who run it, absolutely sucks and here's why" ad nauseum (or is it Add Nausea?)

Last game kyrie made 3 tackles, 2 on short yardage plays after first down yardage, 1 in the run game for a short gain. Jones made stops of 2 yards 3 times in the run game, leading to two punts and a 3rd and short. He made tackles after gains of 4 yards (first down), 9, 5(first) 3 (first) and 5 yards. That’s jones making the biggest contribution to run stops, but also frequently after a successful run. This is very comparable to what we’ve seen in each game this year.

Wilson makes the best decisions, is assignment sound, good in pass cover and a reliable tackler. Problem is he can’t get off the block of any one any more, and doesn’t have that explosiveness to close gap, lay a hit, or shoot a gap. He isn’t cooked like biggie, getting steam rolled by every rb in the hole. And he tends to get better and better. Which we really need him to do since we are married to him. The time it takes him to get back up to speed, he basically can’t afford an injury this year. Jones is hands down better in the box, he’s explosive and strong enough to make plays. His run instincts are good decision making mediocre and lost continually in coverage. Id rather play all small guys who can cover , rally to the ball, wrap and tackle than a guy who can’t cover.

So I've had a couple of trips on Winnipeg Transit's new Primary Transit system, and so far it's been going fine for me (it hasn't really effected me negatively) I get why some people have problems with it since their normal stops were being discontinued)

If that was his first game you can justify letting him go then.

Living in the past thread. The repeat stuff thread.

Wilson is by no means a liability and been one of our more steady guys....it's dependability....but I bet at a rotational role like Griffin...would help keep him clean from injury...and fresh

Maybe we should rename this to the "20-20 Hindsight thread" so everyone knows what it's really about.