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I love Streveler for what he is, and what he's done in our uniform. But this is laughable. This team was his in 2019 for the taking. I know he was young, but the only reason Collaros is here at all is because Streveler was 3-5 with a team that went 13-2 and won the Grey Cup in games with Nichols/Collaros. If anyone viewed Streveler as a starting quality QB, he'd be in Edmonton, or Hamilton last year, or Toronto, or Calgary. He's just not that level of player. He's a good backup with some unique qualities if he's healthy. Which he's nowhere near. Watch the guy throw a ball. He's arm throwing, he's getting nothing from his core, hips and down. He likely should not have returned until after Labour Day.

I dunno...with more work...coaching from Jackson...and getting reps with 1's in practice and if he gets next couple starts I can see Strev being more than serviceable...you have to remember guys in this time fully recover from reconstruction surgery...Strev is only what...10 months removed from surgery? He's gonna regain his legs...hes not cooked by any means in that regard He has thrown 5 tds to ZC 7...and that's in just over half the attempts...and other than 1st start minimal prep and crappy situations So I'm apt not to make final judgements until he gets a bunch of consecutive starts...will that happen...who knows yet...should it...I think so as looking at the QB market moving forward he may be our best option for late this yr and into 2026 barring any trade where we get a gift from someone...so the prudent thing would be to start implementing stuff with him in mind...and getting him work in every possible situstion and chance we get. Elephant in room tho is Osh and we know how he operates and doesn't allow for anyone to push for a prominent role let alone the defacto starter...and this should be occurring in multiple positions too...not just QB There is a definite issue and disconnect in room and amoung coaching...management....and add in a stubborn HC who won't make a change let alone tweeks unless ultimately forced to, well then we get what we are seeing. Staying the course now...and continued looking backwards and assuming things will work out is just setting up for failure...and serious issues next yr...that or a total house cleaning....this isnt 2021-2022 anymore...we don't have the top end talent...in their prime...nor the depth...or any heir apparent in place..or even given anyone a actual look and reps to even see if we do...so save for an epic shift on how we do things...who we play it's looking like we are in tough and 3rd place may be our ceiling...and that may be a stretch...and don't even wanna think about next yr based on how we went about our offseason in a grey cup yr at home if we don't change some roles at the top Toss in whatever Jake is making...Kolos 150k...Kramdis ridiculous 135k...Mitchell and his so far wasted money...

Same went with the Ultimate Warrior.... the wrestler was awesome... the actor was a mess.

Fire Hogan and promote Jarious Jackson to OC?

I don't know of any impact player in the league who is wanting off their current team. Maybe Chad Kelly out of Toronto so they can rid them of any PR issues.... So Zach for Kelly which I'm sure so many people on here would go crazy for....

What kind of talent could be added to the roster without Zach and Dalton’s contracts? Serious question.

Rational and well said. I agree it could be a case of being "found out"... But I would hope it wouldn't happen this quickly or this easily. And Jordan Youngers D last year was perfectly fine. As you say, they didn't just forget how to play football. Very curious.

I agree. To me it looks like teams have clued into schemes and/or inferior talents at some positions. OL, Receiver, maybe DL - I can understand why there would be challenges there. But the secondary was dominant last year, while the LB corps was certainly adequate. These guys didn't suddenly forget how to play football. Kick cover is as good as ever. The running game is solid and could be dominant if the passing game were more of a threat. Whatever is up with the secondary needs to be sorted out. And in my opinion the offense needs to revert to a more ball control type of game. They DON'T have the OL to make ZC's beloved deep shots work consistently. With some adjustments, this could be a .500 football team. Just my realistic 0.02

we now have an answer as to why, he just didn't want to go https://deadline.com/2025/07/dan-aykroyd-why-he-missed-snl50-special-1236471740/

I think Hogan’s style of offense would work better with a mobile qb. For the most part, I’ve liked the playcalling with Streveler at qb, but the problem is that Streveler isn’t very good. He misses easy throws and isn’t very mobile anymore. I don’t like either of our qbs anymore, but at this point I probably would go with Streveler and hope for the best. Moot point however, as Collaros isn’t going anywhere.

The sad reality is neither qb is getting any pocket to work with. Streveler runs, collaros gets sacked.

So BC.... This is a bit confusing for me. I don't think BC is necessarily a bad team and think they are better than Toronto. And we didn't have too much trouble with BC in either game. I'm not sure if it's Schoen or Stan or what happened... But I definitely feel like we somehow became a much worse team over the course of about 4 games. It's very odd.

I think you're basing your opinion on 1 game against an ill prepared BC team who is actually worse than we are. Dynamic and our offence are complete opposites.

We had an early indication of the way things were going to go early, when Thomas was re-upped....add to that the parting ways of some very good talent...This is a train wreck and the engineer has to leave.....How do we lose so badly, to a sad sack argo team, in such an embarrassing way...There 'HAS' to be a change NOW, before we sink further and land firmly in the basement...I felt sorry for the guys that were really putting out....Person,Vaughters, Brady and to a certain extent Demski....Zack is done and he might as well pack his bag along with osh and lets begin with that....Officially and gradually have gone from the penthouse to the outhouse...

He's been given those opportunities in the last two weeks and hasn't done much positive. He's not the Streveler of a few years back. That guy could outrun the D line and make plays with his legs over and over. Now he struggles to run at all. That takes his best attribute away, making him just another guy.

D-line rotation looked good Brady ran hard, caught well and blocked well Our special coverage looked good Wilson appeared top play good Jones made some big tackles Corcarin looked good That's all that comes to mind for good Castillo is in my mind our MVP, MOP so far.... Sheehans punting looked good again Penalties were bad Receivers didn't make any great catches, overall looked bad O-line was bad overall- we seem to have a poor scheme/ability for pass blocking The weather was bad Zach was ugly, really ugly this game...I think this is his 3rd maybe 4th consecutive multi interception game in a row... The entire d backfield was beyond ugly it appeared we swapped Bridges for Vaval....Vaval looked perhaps decent...IMO the Parker experiment at safety should conclude Communication was very ugly... Chemistry was ugly Playcalling was ugly...both offence and defence, especially the lack of involving a run game AGAIN...and on defence it is now pretty evident that whatever Younger is calling is too confusing for the guys we have playing Turnovers...correct me if I am wrong but I think we have like something like 17 or 18 turnovers the last three games... and of all types returns, ints, fumbles, turn over of downs Case's injury was ugly, If I was a betting man he is done for the season...he may not be lighting it up but let's show respect that he hurt himself trying to help our team...

Hulk Hogan - Icon. Terry Bollea - Absolute trash human being.

No way for any of us to know if the play calls are the issue because we don't know what the calls were. Having said that, I think I'd be okay with holding ZC out this week no matter what and giving Strev a full week of starter reps and a game plan specifically designed for him.

No...I meant in actual game...a lot different than practice...was perfect opportunity to practice it under live bullets

Are you saying that the team doesn't make the time to practice 2pt converts, onside kickoffs, etc? If true, that's a damning indictment of the coaching staff.

Ferguson said during the broadcast that Tony Jones was the leader of our D and I was like if that's true, we're in trouble. I mean who is the leader of Toronto's D? McMannus. Montreal? Beverette. One of those things is not like the others.

and we didnt address or bring anyone in to shore up DT...C....or up the middle of the defence....and challenge for a spot...tho we know how that would have went any way...CHrist Thomas was signed before FA even started.....so that tells you right there his spot was cemented....and not like if we waited he would have had a mad rush to sign him...Jones too....2 yr deal before FA....Cemented as starter..... he was also pretty damn dynamic...outside and in the slot in Edm...which was a shitshow to boot with no real legit QB....This excuse we using is a load of crap Any pro team with pro recievers and legit coaching can make things work/happen .....but we jump on the excuse train and chug along and last 3 games...where they were literally over for most part in 3rd...not a single back-up...sub.....was given any opportunity to show what they had with meaningful reps still to be played...no 2 point convert practiced...on-side kick...any kind of trickery/fake.....nothing...just status quo we will be ok with some hearty film review and self reflection.....thats poorassed coaching anyway you wanna slice it...especially after each loss...we just came back to same well...with same group...same schemes...and same results....

It's scary when look at who the Argos were starting on OL and at QB. If they'd ground out a close win, that would be one thing. But the Bombers never even had a chance to win. And I'd say the casual fans have clued in by now.

Who would have thought that we'd be yearning for Buck to be back as OC?😊 I won't argue with that.