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Probably not. I'd assume Ottawa's pick would require our 1st and 2nd this year plus next years 1st. So that means you're not getting a good receiver out of this draft IMO. The way we are built right now, receiver is way more of a need IMO. And depth in general is a need. Our D will get ugly fast with a couple injuries, imagine if Demski goes down. Vaccaro will be reliable but he's not like a Desjarlais or something.

I know at one point this off season, the Bengals only had 3 OL on their entire roster. I'm assuming that's likely changed, but needless to say I think Manu will get looks for a bit yet.

Yeah there's a lot of talk that Manu's on the outside looking in with the Lions, especially after they took an OT with their first rounder this weekend. If it doesn't pan out there, he might catch on with another team but he could find himself up here sooner than most people expected.

Also "those mock drafts were way off".

as would I....I could see him as a guy who could start immediately and if it allows us to go 3 Nationals on Oline with youth like Wallace and Vibert as the backups....both young...and still young Eli ...we are set up nicely....even nicer if Manu strolls into camp next yr too

I would.

good post and valid concerns... DT we need to focus on really....and Receiver.....If we trade up to nab Vaccaro...even better really because 3 to 4 legit Canadian Olineman makes CFL roster that much better if it allows you to go heavy import on dline and or receiver...Just does Our National dline depth save for Lawson is putrid...Even with the expunging of our weakest piece it's still garbage. Bailey the global is our next best non American...we need serious upgrades there. Also I so dont want us to go 3 national receivers...we just dont have the horses...As it stands Clercius/Cobb and maybe a under radar Draftee this yr are adequate backups to Demski and Neild but seeing as we dont know how to utilize Clercius (Maybe Condell will fix that) starting him or god help us Corcoran, who in my opinion is the least worthy National receiver in the league basically just gives us a 5th guy who really will have no real impact whatsoever and not garner much attention...Now a guy like Banks who has NFL metrics slathered all over him on the outside would garner a big amount of attention and open things up for our top 3 guys....He is not the typical new import who ahs great film and lotsa accolades...he's a victim of his past and NFL moving on from guys who came into draft yr with past issues....and the issues really were nothing anyway. The fact he even up here is shocking to be honest...but a huge get for us. If allowed he could have Chris Mathews rookie vibes all over him but better, as he is already more polished and has a better all around game If we choose to go 3 nationals..Just cause it makes Osh feel all warm and snug in his tighty whites and let a guy like that walk...or any other import who impresses and would benefit from a yr of learning the CFL....then thats just sad Safety too is a position we should go Canadian at..We have the depth there with Kramdi (as to where that where he should be)..Kelly....Hallett in areal pinch and there are some intriguing draft guys this yr who could push to be an immediate backup this yr Drafting smart and drafting guys with good defensive film and NOT just ST ability can set you up nicely with backup depth whop can come in due to injury/rotation and have next to zero drop in abilty...we have soooo gotten away from that with these plugs that we think are so great on teams Plugging in a Korny and or Schmeck in lieu of Lawson due to injury or for rotation to maintain ratio is a serious downgrade and majority of time when we use that...and also had Thomas out there in past yrs were the plays we generally get gouged

Shadeur Sanders was handled humble pie by dropping in the draft.... the fact that this kid didn't even get a sniff as an UDFA would have me believe that the guy must be a complete locker room cancer for nobody to take a chance on him.

Do the Bombers trade up for the 1st overall pick? Our first + the extra pick to move up three spaces in a deep draft? Will this allow us to get at least 3 players that will move the team forward, or do they hold fast, and keep a potential 4th high level pick? Do we have room for 4? Do we lose a player from an area of need if we trade the pick? Do we lose out on Vacarro if we don't - and is that so bad? I'm not sure - as we are not privy to all the information. Looking at our current roster - I would suggest our biggest area of weakness are OL -> reciever -> DL and then DB. OL -> Neufeld (at the tail end of career) - Wallace - Eli - with Vibert and Uwubanwen as backups. Reciever -> Demski - Nield - Clercius - with Cocoran and Cobb as backups. DT -> Lawson - with Schmekel and Kornelson as backups DE -> Bailey (Global) - no backup Safety -> Hallet / Ball / possibly J Smith / Kelly (and we may use an American here to start) LB -> perhaps use Shay and J Smith platooning at one position - Cadawallader and Novak as backups. RB/FB -> Oliveira and Paterson/Chris Ike. QB -> Elgersma will likely be one of the 20/21 Canadians on the opening positional chart other: Sheanhan (global punter), Leroux (long snapper) Have I missed anyone. Should be a fun night, and the global picks Wednesday. My son (12) and I are doing a draft party - and is usually one of the bigger days of the year. Whoever the Bombers pick - it should be fun. I hope they give every pick, as well as all the new players they have already brought in a real chance to compete for the team - need a serious, all-out, no locks training camp this year - let the players win their position. Apologies about the long winded post. If you see me at the games - I am wearing the bomber jersey with LANE on the back, #28. Looking forward to the discussions and arguments on the forum this year! Apologies if I tick you off if I question a post or thought - I will endeavor to do it in a constructive way! B28.

I've got another, "that guy makes Joey Corcoran look fast."

Yeah...hopeful of a good draft...but also prepared to be disappointed too....and hear all the "intangible" reasons as for why we did what we did...almost wish they could lock Osh up in a closet for a day prior and day of draft to be honest

"What are we going to do with 40 Line backers?!" "Great hands, but can't run" "Hes super athletic! but cant do football things" "Did we just draft another long snapper?" "Best teams guy in the draft"

"I can't believe he feel to us" "That guy is a sleeper" "We got the steal of the draft" "I can't believe we drafted him" "That guy is a bum" I am ready for the draft.

Pavia is such a little weasel, I’m really hopeful he doesn’t come here. Incredibly difficult guy to root for. In other news, sounds like the Bombers met with Vaccaro in person on Saturday. I really do wonder if we’re going to make a move tomorrow to try and move up a few spots.

Was heading to work as 1 game was ending. Looked more than 4800 to me but yup. Awesome. Did look fun and the team is decent. Dom is a solid goalie prospect.

So @JuranBoldenRules , would you trade up for Vaccaro?

the thing is when you go to free agency to completely turnover your roster, by the time they learn how to play together effectively the season is more than half over and you end up with a losing record, to which Ottawa responds by doing the same reaction with likely the same result

Think we need another receiver, OL and defensive player who can play out of this draft. DB pool in this one is pretty deep. There's a couple high end guys for CFL who aren't getting much NFL attention. There's some LB's too. I think we're really prepared to play 3 import OL so OL in general is less of a need early. Like there's no point in drafting a guy who isn't a player early. Vaccaro is a slam dunk if there's an opportunity. I could see us taking Henning. Not sure Cline has ever been in Canada, not sure Taylor or Reese will ever play up here. So the OL pool gets shallow pretty quick into projects and guys coming off a couple years of severe injuries who maybe would have rated higher otherwise....including Henning although I think he's an interesting guy as a 7th OL potentially as he develops. Most of the rest of the good U Sports guys will be moving inside from tackle, which isn't always easy or immediate. DL crew is kind of similar with NFL guys vs guys who went NCAA but barely played or finally got to play at a low level, low end athleticism, no explosiveness looking ahead to CFL. Charlie Parks is one guy out of Sask who is a major PITA. He will be a good pro, situational, maybe gains 15- 20 pounds and can take reps at 3 spots, special teams. There's a lot of receivers who will be solid CFL players/prospects and in training camp. Would not be shocked if there's a run on them in the first 10-15 picks. Ojutalayo from Laurier is a guy to watch early. Football player, no Jade Etienne bullshit. DeMontagnac, Ulm, Boutin, Meiga will go first couple rounds too. I would not be shocked if our first couple picks are receiver or DB/LB. Ethan Stuart is a guy I could see Walters/MOS loving early.

I think his arm looks worse than it is because of his motion. It looks very high effort and slow, then the velocity is just ok out of his hand. When he shortens his throwing motion, or changes his release angle it has the same velocity. Release speed strong impacts the perception of zip. Arm strength will never be his strength, but he has plenty to make the throws. I’ll take that frozen rope touch over a rocket launcher any day. I think the big question for him up here is how well he adjusts to the nuances up here. Timing with the waggle will be a real challenge, not to mention the wide throws.

I haven’t watched any of his film. How does he stack up against a guy like Davis Alexander in the measurable. Alexander can’t have him beat by more than a couple of inches.

Really interesting watching his highlight package. That is a mid arm if I've ever seen one. But nearly all his throws are tight spirals and on time. Seems to know where the defense is going to be, and doesn't telegraph where he's going with the ball, which is enough sometimes to feather in some passes in the zones. At the pro level? I have no idea. Looks like a really savvy player...almost like a point guard out there. I like that he finds the forgotten man once he starts to scramble.

Really like the looks of this Pavia kid...You can tell this guy has the goods to make the grade wherever he ends up...He's got that spunk and talent that'll make him a winner... Seems he's got a chip on his shoulder after the NFL draft didn't go his way...I sure wouldn't mind trying to turn that chip into blue chip Bomber stock..Dreamin' I know but never say never I always say,,,,