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Just not going to buy this conspiracy theory being floated. If it does turn out to be true then I will absolutely demand better. Not gonna buy this I heard it from a source that cannot be named though.

Schoen was not on the books - he was a pending FA that we extended in February.

Poor management.

GCn20 for President of the Bomber Apologists Club

We could have easily afforded him in a bunch of different ways. Last year we had both Schoen and Lawler at 500+ and we made it work with a far better team than we have now. Mitchell is for all intents and purposes a bust and a complete waste of money. J.Jones appears to be the same.

so it looks like Tuesday will be the day that IHOPBees will open it's doors

I don't think the Bombers were hoping to replace Lawler with TWO receivers. Schoen was already on the books, hope he is 2022 Schoen and that replaces Kenny (whoops) Sign Mitchell, hope he gives you 2023 Schoen like production (whoops) Sign a position of need... Needed to replace Bighill so come on down Jonathon Jones (whoops) Mitchell and Jones salary slips nicely into the hole created by Lawler's departure... But neither of them could crack the roster for... Reasons

For real though, we’re going to get **** pumped

We'll leave it at this

I'm arguing about the impact roster usage has in our over all ability to win. You guys seem to think it makes a big impact and I don't think it would. I don't think that replacing Thomas for Woods or dressing another DL for Ayers would make a lick of difference. It is head scratching for sure, our roster usage, until I look at how poor our depth is. My biggest beef with the last 3 years on this forum is how myopic it has become. We have spent 20000 posts talking about roster slots 51 thru 53 and about 100 posts talking about the massive talent drain that's been going on. The lack of talent retention is 95% of what our biggest problem is right now and all you guys want to key in on is how we are not putting in scrubs to replace scrubs. Lets talk about how a Joey Corcoran makes our team and plays actual games because our receiving corps is hot garbage, let's talk about how our OL went from dominant to the worst in the CFL. let's talk about Chris Streveler now being our starting QB and the guy is not a CFL calibre starter. These are the reasons we will not win going forward. MOS has flaws but he has clearly demonstrated an ability to win if you give him players. Walters has not done that.

I don't see the D giving up any more points than they did against the Riders. The game will come down offensive production and perhaps which team can get a score or two from defense or special teams.

So 300k for Kenny, Schoen was 175 plus bonuses which I believe were around 200k+Mitchell's money would cover Kenny and a guy on a rookie deal like Wheatfall. So again, we could have afforded him.

so then what the **** are you arguing about all the damn time?

I've never stated otherwise. I have always said that MOS's roster use is not up to snuff and the fact we don't use the naturalized import is a head scratcher. Where we differ is how much of a difference it would make. I don't believe for one second we have the overall talent to do any better than what we've done so far. With Collaros out I don't expect to win more than a couple more games this year.

He’ll definitely eat sacks of something.

Just so we are clear here.... you're saying they're not playing the strongest lineup they can?

I want to know what you smoked and where it is available

Yup the replacements haven't worked out at all. Lawler had never played consistently enough to warrant his contract until this year. Remains to be seen if he can keep it up the rest of the year. You have to add in another receivers salary to make that math work unless Lawler going to play two spots at once. Lawler is getting over $300. His bonuses are all for just showing up. Hard money: $277,200 Maximum value: $303,000 The six-foot-three, 197-pound target got a $125,000 signing bonus to head to Steeltown where he became the CFL’s highest-paid non-quarterback for the second time in his career. The 30-year-old will also earn $110,000 in base salary, $25,000 in marketing money, $14,700 in housing money, and a $2,500 travel allowance. As for playtime incentives, Lawler can receive a $10,000 bonus the first time he makes the active roster, $3,800 if he’s active for at least 15 games, and $500 each time he plays more than 51 percent of Hamilton’s offensive snaps in a game. https://3downnation.com/2025/04/15/cfls-highest-paid-receivers-for-2025/

Lawler is getting 275 in Hamilton. Schoen was 175 plus incentives. Mitchell was 163. You could have paid Kenny 275 and had 88 k at least left over. All it costs you is Schoen and Mitchell. Who isn't taking that trade off?

sometimes... other times we had the exact same problems we've had this year. Yeah he had games like the west final, but that wasn't all the the time. guy isn't as consistent as he was several seasons ago. not paying him huge money wasn't the mistake. the mistake is in what replaced him.

I can see Streveler taking 4 sacks and throwing 2 pick 6's...

Must win? Ahhh sure from a confidence level but this is the CFL where getting into the playoffs comes with many scenarios. It will be interesting to hear what some say after this game. We win handily: Told you so We win a close one: Told you so We lose a close one: Bugger off we're almost there We lose handily: ?

For sure, there are a million and 1 things that we aren't exactly privy to that can affect a player game to game. Collaros being injured in 111, and Lawler being almost last man standing in 110... and then obviously his first year was 107 so can't put too much into it. He had a fantastic game in the West Finals last year... but Collaros looked vintage there as well... so much symbiosis between WR and QB. 2023 he had similar numbers to Grey Cup 110, 2021 he had similar numbers, same in 2019 but he had a TD there. Obviously having a player like Lawler on the team would be a huge plus but cost and usage definitely a factor. He had 4 seasons here and he was at least inconsistent in his availability. You can see where the thought process would go with a high priced receiver... can't keep on the AR all year and an offense that is in clear decline... It looks worse because he is balling out this year but he is leading the league depth yards targeted and the Bombers are living right around 10 yards past the line of scrimmage... is that because they don't have someone like Kenny or is that because the Bombers are rostering QBs that can't push the ball down field? Probably a bit of both. Maybe as a fan I give the team a bit more rope than they deserve... Lots of people like to clamor for Dru Brown... did the front office completely bungle that or in the 3 years he was here did they decide that he would be unable to stay on the field with the way he plays... Would the last 2 years be any better with Brown as the QB with his inability to stay on the field? CFL definitely isn't as transparent as a lot of other leagues and we are left to fill in the gaps... part of the fun I suppose

I actually expect to see Wilson in the 2nd half tonight. Maybe Artopoeous. Get that blowout feeling. We ain’t gonna be the ones doing the blowing out either.

now playoff games to get us to the Grey Cup Also...maybe those games teams in the Cup schemed to take him out of the game, and was up to us to scheme something to take advantage of that...aka.....coaching? same with when a receiver seems to go quite...maybe they saw his previous damage and schemed him out of the game and took him away, and the QB had to have the wherewithal to look elsewhere...that gets lost in the arguments too