After hearing the coach state that  he didn't think the Bombers got blown out in Calgary and that they played a good 4th quarter i have to question if he is fit to coach this team. I know he admitted the 2nd and 3rd were garbage but to take anything positive from the 4th quarter when Calgary rushed 3 men on defence and looked totally disinterested until they realized they took the pedal off the gas too quickly  is ridiculous and patronizing to fans. The fact is Calgary's  defence had no problem stopping Willy and Co. late in the 4th when it kinds/sorta mattered.

He may have been using this as a way to boost his teams confidence but if they are that fragile then the problems run deeper than  what has been uncovered during the first two games. He may turn this around and make this post seem foolish but I doubt it at this point. Moreover, it may not all be his fault as there are many problems from poor o-line play, Willy having happy feet, the secondary and d-line looking weaker American beer!

I was a huge fan of his play calling when he was special teams coach for the Argos but he has not been able to translate that to his management of this team as head coach and unfortunately it may be time to put an end to this experiment that is becoming more and more similar to the Tim Burke, Jim Daley and dare i say Reinebold eras( he only has 6 more wins than Reinebold did in 4 more games!!)

I believe some coaches are made for the top job whereas some are better suited to be assistants and  Coach Mike 'Everything is ' O'Shea may be better suited to be an assistant.

 

 

 

 Complain that too many posts are mere opinions unsupported by facts, (complaining only about the opinions you don't like) and then pile on a new guy that has some facts, cause you don't like his opinion.

Par for the course here. Probably more than half the posts are just complaints about some other person's posts.

childish.

 

 

Edited July 7, 20169 yr by Mark F

10 minutes ago, Mark F said:

 

 Complain that too many posts are mere opinions unsupported by facts, (complaining only about the opinions you don't like) and then pile on a new guy that has some facts, cause you don't like his opinion.

Par for the course here. Probably more than half the posts are just complaints about some other person's posts.

childish.

 

 

I don't think anyone actually has a problem with his opinion. I sure don't.

I have a problem with him arguing with me, telling me my opinion is something that it isn't.

1 hour ago, Jimmy Pop said:

Here's the thing: NOT ONE PERSON IS HAPPY WITH 7 WINS IN 32 STARTS.

No one.

And no one's said that either.

The issue is.... and I'm really trying to go slow for you here:

Words matter. So when you say, "I BET THE RIDERS WILL WIN MORE THAN THE BOMBERS" - know that 1) Someone may call you out and take the bet and 2) Most importantly, challenging that one position of yours DOES. NOT. MEAN. we are happy.

The reality wouldn't be threatening to talk about. YOUR reality is threatening to my sanity, however.

So, to review: criticism is fine. But be reasonable and for the love of Stegall, back up the words you say.  And as many others have already said, QUIT cherry picking comments to suit your obtuse needs.  Go re-read our little back and forth here, and hopefully you'll understand wtf people have been so frustrated about. 

Are you serious?  A Bombers' fan saying "I bet the Riders will win more game than the Bombers (in 2016 with Chris Jones)" is so threatening to you that you use phrases like "Words matter", "Most importantly" and "your threatening my sanity".  I had to read that section twice to believe someone actually wrote that about a football prediction.  We're talking about a football game here, not nuclear war.

I get that it is your manner to insult people, e.g. using phrases like "to suit your obtuse need".  That isn't my style thankfully.  My starting point is and always will be that people have different perspectives and none of those perspectives remotely "threaten my sanity", especially when it comes to a football game.  Get a grip on what is really frustrating and important in life and lay off phrases like "Words matter", "Most importantly", "wtf", "your obtuse need", etc.  

As for me cherry-picking comments, I'm really not sure what is more important than a team's won-loss.  I guess it's cherry-picking to mention the record and to wonder about the management and players that have led to that record . Not a single thing that I've said on this site isn't factual and it's about the things most relevant to a football team.  And none of the comments I've made haven't been made by others, other than the Saskatchewan prediction.

Thanks, not really, for the chat.  You can have your last insult and I regret this 'chat' degraded.  But if you choose to attack people for saying something as innocent as 'I'll bet the Riders have more wins", I'll fight back.  I don't mind one bit the folks who want to take me up on that bet and I respect those who think I'm nuts.  That's all in good fun.  But frankly your level of moral lecturing on a message board about a football prediction is something I would never expect.  I hope it's just isolated to me. 

As for being called a troll by the rose-colored glasses wearers who want to go 'rah, rah, rah' regardless of what happens on the field, I take the term as a compliment.   Thanks!

 

What was this all about again?    Trained intervention operators need to be on standby......

5 minutes ago, do or die said:

What was this all about again?    Trained intervention operators need to be on standby......

It all boils down to wondering how much gin you're going to be drinking during the game tonight. 

8 minutes ago, gcdrought said:

Are you serious?  A Bombers' fan saying "I bet the Riders will win more game than the Bombers (in 2016 with Chris Jones)" is so threatening to you that you use phrases like "Words matter", "Most importantly" and "your threatening my sanity".  I had to read that section twice to believe someone actually wrote that about a football prediction.  We're talking about a football game here, not nuclear war.

I get that it is your manner to insult people, e.g. using phrases like "to suit your obtuse need".  That isn't my style thankfully.  My starting point is and always will be that people have different perspectives and none of those perspectives remotely "threaten my sanity", especially when it comes to a football game.  Get a grip on what is really frustrating and important in life and lay off phrases like "Words matter", "Most importantly", "wtf", "your obtuse need", etc.  

As for me cherry-picking comments, I'm really not sure what is more important than a team's won-loss.  I guess it's cherry-picking to mention the record and to wonder about the management and players that have led to that record . Not a single thing that I've said on this site isn't factual and it's about the things most relevant to a football team.  And none of the comments I've made haven't been made by others, other than the Saskatchewan prediction.

Thanks, not really, for the chat.  You can have your last insult and I regret this 'chat' degraded.  But if you choose to attack people for saying something as innocent as 'I'll bet the Riders have more wins", I'll fight back.  I don't mind one bit the folks who want to take me up on that bet and I respect those who think I'm nuts.  That's all in good fun.  But frankly your level of moral lecturing on a message board about a football prediction is something I would never expect.  I hope it's just isolated to me. 

As for being called a troll by the rose-colored glasses wearers who want to go 'rah, rah, rah' regardless of what happens on the field, I take the term as a compliment.   Thanks!

 

 

18 minutes ago, Mike said:

I don't think anyone actually has a problem with his opinion. I sure don't.

I have a problem with him arguing with me, telling me my opinion is something that it isn't.

@Mike Well said. 

 

4 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

It all boils down to wondering how much gin you're going to be drinking during the game tonight. 

Somewhere between copious.....and epic amounts, I suppose......

38 minutes ago, Mike said:

I don't think anyone actually has a problem with his opinion. I sure don't.

I have a problem with him arguing with me, telling me my opinion is something that it isn't.

Mike, it's not that your opinion isn't what it is.  Isn't it a problem that your opinion is what it isn't and wasn't what it once was?

1 hour ago, do or die said:

Somewhere between copious.....and epic amounts, I suppose......

I already cracked a beer cause I was pretty sober last week so I can't make that mistake again. 

1 hour ago, gcdrought said:

Are you serious?  A Bombers' fan saying "I bet the Riders will win more game than the Bombers (in 2016 with Chris Jones)" is so threatening to you that you use phrases like "Words matter", "Most importantly" and "your threatening my sanity".  I had to read that section twice to believe someone actually wrote that about a football prediction.  We're talking about a football game here, not nuclear war.

Try reading it a third time and maybe this time you will understand what he says cause I think you've missed the point entirely based on this paragraph here. 

1 hour ago, Logan007 said:

It all boils down to wondering how much gin you're going to be drinking during the game tonight. 

see gif thread filled with jim lahey picks.

1 hour ago, Mike said:

I don't think anyone actually has a problem with his opinion. I sure don't.

I have a problem with him arguing with me, telling me my opinion is something that it isn't.

Mike - Our discussion started when you took issue (no problem with that) with me saying that Joe Mack and Wade Miller were the primary guys established with re-building the team.  You asked why i was mentioning the two together and said they had "entirely different roles".   My first reaction was did I get it wrong.  But I went back and read stories about the hiring of Mack and Miller and it was clearly stated by the team and the two guys that it was their job to re-establish a winning tradition for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. Miller's exact phrase was I want to restore a "winning culture".  So despite their different titles, I do consider both as the prime decision-makers to get the team back on track.  Mack was hired as a GM/VP Football Operations and he focussed on personnel and the hiring of a Head Coach . Miller chose to start the re-build by choosing a General Manager, in this case Kyle Walters.

You won't believe me, but I don't mind being factually wrong.  Being wrong means you've learned something and you won't repeat the same mistake twice.  So there is value in it.  Your opinion is that Mack and Miller have entirely different roles and I assume you feel they are not similarly accountable for the re-build.  I tried my best to explain why i made the comment.  But if i'm being honest, I need some counter-facts presented to explain what I have gotten wrong before I correct myself.  I'd be lying if i said it wasn't a little frustrating doing some homework, presenting actual facts and then being told I'm wrong without any explanation as to why.  There's no need for a response.  Enjoy the game and hopefully the first win.

Except that Mack was hired to be the GM and he had a president of the team above him while Miller is simply the president of the team. If you want to compare someone to Mack the guy right now is Walters. Yeah there might have been a few alternate titles thrown around with Mack but let's be serious here, Mack was the GM, Miller is the president and Walters is the GM, completely not comparable positions.

On 7/6/2016 at 3:09 PM, Mike said:

As a bystander to this whole fiasco, it seems to me that the thread only went south because of your entry into it. The discussion didn't degrade itself to the level it is at now until you went on your rant.

Don't know why that was necessary. I recognized things were getting out of hand and withdrew from the discussion. 

It turns out everything really is O'Shae

Wow, nice thread... Especially the last couple of pages. Clap. Clap. Clap. And for once I'm not involved in the histrionics.  

7 hours ago, iso_55 said:

Wow, nice thread... Especially the last couple of pages. Clap. Clap. Clap. And for once I'm not involved in the histrionics.  

It's ok, don't be jealous.  We'll save a spot for you next time.  Promise. 

Everything is beautiful...in it's own way...

19 hours ago, gcdrought said:

You celebrate the good times, be satisfied with the average times, and wonder what needs to be done when things are bad.  

this sentence describes about 90% of the posters here... thanks for pointing that out 

33 minutes ago, Logan007 said:

It's ok, don't be jealous.  We'll save a spot for you next time.  Promise. 

Don't I know it...

This should be the theme song of this place because if you post here long enough....

 

 

 

 

 

Well that was a hilarious read.

Everyone has a right to say what they want here. And everyone else has a right to disagree. But just because I don’t want to talk non-stop about the bombers shitty play doesn’t mean I’m “standing by while the house crumbles around me and the world stop spinning and will gladly go along with whatever they say!” And just cause I won’t say Willys 4^th quarter play deserves some praise doesn’t mean I want the entire organization lined up in front of a firing squad.

If some of us would just stay away from the extremes, even when baited into them. Things would be a lot more mature around here.

But hey it is the internets….soooo… GOOOOOOO **** YOURSELF SASKATCHEWAN!!!!!!

The only truly wrong opinion in this thread was that no one is entertained by the gif thread. Cause I certainly am.

2 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

Well that was a hilarious read.

Everyone has a right to say what they want here. And everyone else has a right to disagree. But just because I don’t want to talk non-stop about the bombers shitty play doesn’t mean I’m “standing by while the house crumbles around me and the world stop spinning and will gladly go along with whatever they say!” And just cause I won’t say Willys 4^th quarter play deserves some praise doesn’t mean I want the entire organization lined up in front of a firing squad.

 

If some of us would just stay away from the extremes, even when baited into them. Things would be a lot more mature around here.

 

But hey it is the internets….soooo… GOOOOOOO **** YOURSELF SASKATCHEWAN!!!!!!

 

The only truly wrong opinion in this thread was that no one is entertained by the gif thread. Cause I certainly am.