With the old guard tossed out and a new one taking over I thought I would start a thread for civil discussion here as was suggested by Noeller.

So have at it:

- with Trudeau and the Liberals in a majority, will we see most of all the "hopey, changy" materialize?

-what happens to the Conservatives? Will they become like the PC of old or lean more towards their Reformer roots?

-will Candians be better off?

-what happens to the NDP? Will they wilt back to stay in 3rd party status until the next Layton?

-will we see more of "Angry Tom" or more of "Smeying Thomas" (I so hope for the former, the latter scared the gravy outta me)

So once again have at it and try keeping away from the personal attacks, that includes making dumb assed comments which elicit (sometimes justifies) the personal attacks.

No worries, I don't know the exact number myself but I know it's not 100%.  In some cases, it's actually worse!  Some contracts are 5 years instead of the usual 4 (I'm guessing they are banking on an ndp come back in 4 years).

how is that even possible - no layoff clause.  I remember the out-going NDP in Nova Scotia did a similar "screw you" to the taxpayers and handicapped the ability of the government taking over to lay off a lot of the unnecessary NDP deadwood they had hired during their 4 years of mismanagement and corruption.  In BC the NDP gave the BC teacher's union control of class size and composition, if you can believe it (talk about a conflict of interest) before being punted out of office.  The Liberals took away this right almost immediately, and now it's been in court for 15 years, with a final ruling to be handed down by the Supreme Court of Canada (the Supreme Court of BC ruled in the government's favour).  Hard to believe that unions can be given rights like no layoff clauses and the ability to hire as many teachers as it sees fit, and the government coming afterwards is powerless to stop this blatant screw job, or has to incur millions of dollars of costs (taxpayer dollars all) just to fix it. 

We are almost due for another NDP government here in BC, and I can just see those bozos handing the BCTF the class size and composition power again, with another gazillion dollars spent in legal fees after the NDP are punted to claw that right back again.  Oh.. I just love the NDP...

Edited April 19, 20169 yr by kelownabomberfan

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/nova-scotia-challenges-no-layoff-clause-for-civil-servants-1.3069929

Here's the article.  Just plain criminal.  Shame NDP shame.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/brandon-east-flyers-wrong-polling-location-1.3542806

 

Drew Caldwell with the trickery. Hope he losses.

1 minute ago, rebusrankin said:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/brandon-east-flyers-wrong-polling-location-1.3542806

 

Drew Caldwell with the trickery. Hope he losses.

It might just be general NDP ineptitude. 

http://globalnews.ca/news/2449500/mgeu-members-promised-no-layoffs-for-five-years-in-new-contract-offer/

1 hour ago, iso_55 said:

There was danger & still is that I'll lose my left leg below the knee as I have been dealing with a foot infection that is resistant to antibiotics. I had surgery for the third time since last July to try to get the thing stopped. My doctors think they have found the appropriate antibiotics to get rid of it but I'll still have 2-3 months to go before I'm fine with no amputation. Thanks for asking kbf. Appreciate it. #fingerscrossed

Goodness.  Best wishes man.  

1 hour ago, bigg jay said:

Not 100% true.  The MGEU is made up of different locals so there are multiple contracts that got negotiated.  Some contracts did include a 4 year no layoff clause but not all of them.

That's ridiculous that one government can do that.  Then again, I wish my union had that for me.  lol

I wonder if the new CEO of Hydro will survive.  I hear he might not.

13 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Goodness.  Best wishes man.  

Thanks, been a struggle.

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

That's ridiculous that one government can do that.  Then again, I wish my union had that for me.  lol

I wonder if the new CEO of Hydro will survive.  I hear he might not.

It's one thing if your union gets you job security.  But if there's a whole pile of people that were hired for basically no reason, and now you can't fire them, you are essentially powerless to cut spending.  You are stuck.  The BC government saw the union hiring thousands of extra teachers without regard to the cost and had to put a stop to it, one way or the other.  It's great to have three students per teacher but that's an unsustainable system.

Not a big surprise, but it looks like the Conservatives are in.

Big win. 

Disapponted that Robinson won his seat and Wab looks to win too. But it's blue in my area of St Norbert. 

Fletcher wins. 

Several upsets and cabinet ministers out. 

Selinger wins his seat. Bokari looks to lose. 

Bokhari was a disaster!  I am so disappointed in the Liberal party

Bokhari is going to be replaced methinks.

 

Dr Gerard back as leader of libs maybe? Or Lamerioux?

looks like some declaring Wab winner. 

Bakari in third place. Was a lousy campaign for her. And a squandered election for the Liberals. 

1 hour ago, kelownabomberfan said:

It's one thing if your union gets you job security.  But if there's a whole pile of people that were hired for basically no reason, and now you can't fire them, you are essentially powerless to cut spending.  You are stuck.  The BC government saw the union hiring thousands of extra teachers without regard to the cost and had to put a stop to it, one way or the other.  It's great to have three students per teacher but that's an unsustainable system.

People who are appointed to jobs rather than earn them through competition usually get classified as being out of scope and don't fall under collective agreements.  Those are usually good paying political appointments so those people can (and will) be axed.  It happened quickly after the Filmon government fell and I expect that will be the same this time around as well.

 

Selinger now claiming they ran an "excellent well executed campaign". 

7 hours ago, iso_55 said:

There was danger & still is that I'll lose my left leg below the knee as I have been dealing with a foot infection that is resistant to antibiotics. I had surgery for the third time since last July to try to get the thing stopped. My doctors think they have found the appropriate antibiotics to get rid of it but I'll still have 2-3 months to go before I'm fine with no amputation. Thanks for asking kbf. Appreciate it. #fingerscrossed

Best wishes iso..

Selinger resigns as leader. Interim leader will be appointed. 

Selinger had to resign. Rana should too.

17 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Selinger now claiming they ran an "excellent well executed campaign". 

Delusional.  After he said that, I wouldn't have been surprised if he had decided to stay on as leader.  Glad he did the right thing... Just a couple years too late!

Greg Sellinger always struck me as being a stupid politician. He fought off a mutiny 2 years ago as leader only to bring down his entire party in the end. He should have got out back then but just refused. He couldn't see he was dead from that point on as a politician. Anyway, the guy's out. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Sellinger.

36 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Selinger now claiming they ran an "excellent well executed campaign". 

Compared to the Liberals? True.

Hey Obby Khan was at my station tonight.

3 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Compared to the Liberals? True.

Hey Obby Khan was at my station tonight.

I'm not sure id be proud of that campaign. But Selinger was sunk the moment his party turned on him 

pretty gracious and classy speech by Pallister.