With the old guard tossed out and a new one taking over I thought I would start a thread for civil discussion here as was suggested by Noeller.

So have at it:

- with Trudeau and the Liberals in a majority, will we see most of all the "hopey, changy" materialize?

-what happens to the Conservatives? Will they become like the PC of old or lean more towards their Reformer roots?

-will Candians be better off?

-what happens to the NDP? Will they wilt back to stay in 3rd party status until the next Layton?

-will we see more of "Angry Tom" or more of "Smeying Thomas" (I so hope for the former, the latter scared the gravy outta me)

So once again have at it and try keeping away from the personal attacks, that includes making dumb assed comments which elicit (sometimes justifies) the personal attacks.

lol funny i think badass might have been his nickname too from i could tell initially. I said street gang unit but it was 11 years with the gang unit period dealing with organzied crime in vancouver which must be a hotbed for activity with all the over seas smuggling

And in other news, Rona Ambrose, one of the biggest spewers of MJ lies, will be the cons interim leader.

 

They could have done so much better.

lol no, i think maybe melanie joly but i only saw her for like 2 secs on the news

 

http://www.quillandquire.com/book-news/2015/11/04/melanie-joly-named-heritage-minister-in-trudeau-cabinet/

 

I really need to visit Quebec more often.

And in other news, Rona Ambrose, one of the biggest spewers of MJ lies, will be the cons interim leader.

 

They could have done so much better.

 

She's spewing lies about Melanie Joly?  Maybe she's just jealous.

To be incredibly sexist for a moment...there's only one way to solve their disagreement and it involves a lot of jello.

im gonna have to google what rona looks like before i like your comment lol

 

 

** meh i wouldnt be opposed to the show so here is a like

OTTAWA - With Prime Minister designate Justin Trudeau preparing to announce a cabinet that is 50% women, researchers have discovered a sharp 5000% increase in the number of men who suddenly have strong opinions about how cabinet appointments should be a “meritocracy.”

Actually, I've been surprised at how many women I've talked to that are not happy about Trudeau's policy either. They don't want hand-outs, they want to be recognized as being just as good as men. Quotas in a lot of ways are slaps in the face to people as it tells them "you are only getting this job because of what you are, not who you are". But what's done is done. What happens in the next election and there are more women than men elected? Will a lot of extremely talented women be excluded from cabinet because of this policy? It really can be a double-edged sword.

I just love the irony of the quote coupled with your post...

Thank you for that- it made my day

And in other news, Rona Ambrose, one of the biggest spewers of MJ lies, will be the cons interim leader.

 

They could have done so much better.

 

The Conservatives seem to be obsessed with hair, so Rona was the obvious choice.

 

 

What is a MJ lie?

To be incredibly sexist for a moment...there's only one way to solve their disagreement and it involves a lot of jello.

 

If you aren't in favor of this, then you just aren't a fan of Canadian politics.

 

And in other news, Rona Ambrose, one of the biggest spewers of MJ lies, will be the cons interim leader.

 

They could have done so much better.

 

The Conservatives seem to be obsessed with hair, so Rona was the obvious choice.

 

 

What is a MJ lie?

 

 

That she picks her nose a lot?  Doesn't brush her teeth?  I don't know.

Rona Ambrose? Wow, exciting. The Conservatives have no depth so the interim position went to her by default. 

@GlobalNational: These female ministers are making $20,000 less than their male colleagues https://t.co/RbfvMEltrj#cdnpoli https://t.co/O4QXXV8sc8

Because it's 2015. Lol

If you read the article you referenced you would see that the reason for this is explained in the first paragraph.

 

"Five female members of the Liberal cabinet are actually ministers of state, considered more junior positions in federal cabinet that serve to assist full ministers. And they will make less money as a result.

According to a Liberal party source, Ministers of State are considered full ministers around the cabinet table. However, the pay scale for those ministers is different, with Ministers of State making $20,000 less per year."

 

 

Being the intrepid "journalist" that you are you would rather shout a headline into the wind and run onto the next one instead of examining the facts of the story.

If you read the article you referenced you would see that the reason for this is explained in the first paragraph.

 

"Five female members of the Liberal cabinet are actually ministers of state, considered more junior positions in federal cabinet that serve to assist full ministers. And they will make less money as a result.

According to a Liberal party source, Ministers of State are considered full ministers around the cabinet table. However, the pay scale for those ministers is different, with Ministers of State making $20,000 less per year."

 

 

Being the intrepid "journalist" that you are you would rather shout a headline into the wind and run onto the next one instead of examining the facts of the story.

Im not a journalist.  I did read the article.  Link was included in the tweet.  Do you need me to wipe your ass for you too? 

@JProskowGlobal: #BREAKING: Reports that the Obama administration will reject Keystone XL pipeline citing cilmate change concerns. Statement at 11:45ET.

@JProskowGlobal: #BREAKING: Reports that the Obama administration will reject Keystone XL pipeline citing cilmate change concerns. Statement at 11:45ET.

They can cite climate change all they like but that's just out and out lying. They're trying to protect their own interests nothing more. I hate when climate change is used as a political tool. Call it what it is, don't want competition for the American oil production. 

 

If you read the article you referenced you would see that the reason for this is explained in the first paragraph.

 

"Five female members of the Liberal cabinet are actually ministers of state, considered more junior positions in federal cabinet that serve to assist full ministers. And they will make less money as a result.

According to a Liberal party source, Ministers of State are considered full ministers around the cabinet table. However, the pay scale for those ministers is different, with Ministers of State making $20,000 less per year."

 

 

Being the intrepid "journalist" that you are you would rather shout a headline into the wind and run onto the next one instead of examining the facts of the story.

Im not a journalist.  I did read the article.  Link was included in the tweet.  Do you need me to wipe your ass for you too? 

 

The quip at the bottom of your post suggested you hadn't.

 

 

If you read the article you referenced you would see that the reason for this is explained in the first paragraph.

 

"Five female members of the Liberal cabinet are actually ministers of state, considered more junior positions in federal cabinet that serve to assist full ministers. And they will make less money as a result.

According to a Liberal party source, Ministers of State are considered full ministers around the cabinet table. However, the pay scale for those ministers is different, with Ministers of State making $20,000 less per year."

 

 

Being the intrepid "journalist" that you are you would rather shout a headline into the wind and run onto the next one instead of examining the facts of the story.

Im not a journalist.  I did read the article.  Link was included in the tweet.  Do you need me to wipe your ass for you too? 

 

The quip at the bottom of your post suggested you hadn't.

 

No the quip suggested I was making fun of Justin's silly answer to a serious question.

 

@JProskowGlobal: #BREAKING: Reports that the Obama administration will reject Keystone XL pipeline citing cilmate change concerns. Statement at 11:45ET.

They can cite climate change all they like but that's just out and out lying. They're trying to protect their own interests nothing more. I hate when climate change is used as a political tool. Call it what it is, don't want competition for the American oil production. 

 

I'm not sure if that's it. I think they're just buckling under to environmentalists.

 

 

@JProskowGlobal: #BREAKING: Reports that the Obama administration will reject Keystone XL pipeline citing cilmate change concerns. Statement at 11:45ET.

They can cite climate change all they like but that's just out and out lying. They're trying to protect their own interests nothing more. I hate when climate change is used as a political tool. Call it what it is, don't want competition for the American oil production. 

 

I'm not sure if that's it. I think they're just buckling under to environmentalists.

 

Nah it's just better PR to use that reason when in reality it's all about caving to American oil interests. There are pipelines all over the US and they won't stop building them, but oil from Canada? No thanks. Score some PR points by bullshitting about climate change (a key tool for politicians these days)

I don't get the logic of saying you are blocking a pipeline due to climate change.  That oil is still going to come out of the ground, and it will still be transported.  If consumption of that oil is causing any kind of climate change, it's not going to stop just because it doesn't travel by pipeline. Instead, it will be transported by the much more dangerous method of rail, or even tanker truck.  That's not helping the environment at all.

 

A conspiracy theory buddy of mine explained why Warren Buffett backed the Democrats.  He's got huge investments in Canadian rail way companies.  Blocking pipelines and forcing oil to be transported by rail is just good business for him, and he can hide behind Obama who says that he wants to block pipelines to help the environment.  Everyone wins (except the occasional small town that gets incinerated by a derailment), and the trained seals clap along.

There are pipelines all over the US and they won't stop building them,

 

 

Correct!

 

if Obama didn't like Oil he wouldn't have approved drilling in the Arctic and off the East coast of the USA.

 

cnn

 

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The greatest oil boom in this nation's history has occurred during the tenure of self-proclaimed environmentalist Barack Obama.

Under Obama, the steady drop in U.S. oil production which had occurred virtually unchecked since 1971 has been reversed. Crude oil production has risen every year of his administration. It has jumped 72% since he took office, producing about 3.6 million additional barrels a day during that time.

Oil production has grown so much that last summer the nation caught and passed Saudi Arabia as the world's largest oil producer. Before Obama leaves office, domestic oil production could top the U.S. record set in 1970.

 

 

 

he's a complete phoney. through and through.

Some people think the Saudi's are overreporting the amount of their reserves, which are verified by nobody.

an explanation for keystone turndown

 

 

"Warren Buffett’s Burlington Northern Santa Fe LLC is among U.S. and Canadian railroads that stand to benefit from the Obama administration’s decision to reject TransCanada Corp.’s Keystone XL oil pipeline permit.

With modest expansion, railroads can handle all new oil produced in western Canada through 2030, according to an analysis of the Keystone proposal by the U.S. State Department.

“Whatever people bring to us, we’re ready to haul,” Krista York-Woolley, a spokeswoman for Burlington Northern, a unit of Buffett’s Omaha, Nebraska-based Berkshire Hathaway Inc., said in an interview. If Keystone XL “doesn’t happen, we’re here to haul.”

 

also read his company recently bought 25000 railway cars, don't know what kind.

Nice story. Except for the firing part.

When the Harper family got together to eat dinner, it wasn't about quail eggs or rare oddities—no, it was more typical Canadian fare.

Tim Wasylko knows. He has spent the past five years cooking meals at 24 Sussex Dr. as the executive chef, and his recollections paint a picture of an average, usually relaxed family sitting round the dinner table.

“It was never about luxury,” he said. “It was just about serving an incredibly busy family.”

But not anymore.

“I am no longer the chef," he told the Sun. "Mrs. Trudeau sacked me."

A statement on the website of the Privy Council Office confirmed his termination, with no details offered.

Wasylko said he wished his departure from 24 Sussex Dr. hadn't gone down the way it did.

After a long meeting with the prime minister's wife, Sophie, the head of house staff walked into a relatively vacant 24 Sussex Dr. and delivered good news to staff with a smile, according to Wasylko.

For about the week the staff had been in limbo, wary of the election fallout, he said.

“Everybody gets to keep your jobs,” Wasylko recalled being told.

But not him. The Trudeaus had another chef in mind, he said.

Despite losing his job, he said he's not bitter.

Wasylko, who lives on a farm in Winchester, has been intimately involved in the best and worst moments of Parliament since 2010.

“Somebody told me to start cooking. It was a long day,” he recalled of Oct. 22, 2014, the day a gunman killed a soldier at the war monument then stormed Parliament Hill.

"We cleaned out every last bit of food we could. We made pots of chilli, everything....nobody packs a lunch for a lockdown."

He was also the guy who ordered 60 large non-partisan pizzas to parliamentarians trapped over on the Hill that day.

“Conservatives, Liberals, the NDP. I fed all of Parliament,” he said.

Being a chef for the Harpers these past few years wasn't about the fine European wines indulged in by former prime ministers, he said.

It was chicken pot pie and home-cooked meals. Meatloaf and taco night. It was chicken soup when was someone was sick.

Wasylko shared fond memories of the Harper family he fed.

“He put anyone I've ever met to shame when it came to work,” he said of Stephen Harper. “The man worked hard. You had to make sure he was fuelled properly.”

The former chef said he never felt like a servant or a butler.

He recalled the first thing Laureen Harper saying to him as “I want you to cook for my family the way you cook for your family.”

“And I often did,” he recalled.

He suggested the Harper family had no hints of being spoiled by the silver spoon.

“The kids had part-time jobs, they had chores. It's hard to believe that, but it was as normal a family as it could be.”

The fridge at 24 Sussex Dr. was always stocked with food from across the country, according to Wasylko

Wasylko cooked meals for heads of state, from Angela Merkel to Barack Obama to Benjamin Netanyahu.

The chef and former instructor at Algonquin College said his first foray into cooking for bigshots was in his early 20s, when he found himself making mashed potatoes at a UN meeting, many years ago.

“Because I wanted to see one country hand mashed-potatoes to another country,” he recalled.

Through the years with the Harpers, Wasylko adopted a strong belief that one of the biggest elements to diplomacy involves food and eating with one another.

“They talk about the meal, and it's a chance to showcase cuisine,” he said.

He indicated he stepped it up a notch but never went overboard on the menu when a world leader came to visit.

“I would try to keep that home feel, believe it or not,” he said.

From his perspective, meals with foreign powers were always cordial and friendly.

“He seemed well liked with whomever he met.”

These days, Wasylko says he's getting offers from all over the place after being booted from the Big Kitchen.

He said one of his most memorable times serving as the executive chef was when Harper mentioned him in the House of Commons in the days following Oct. 22.

"That just brought tears to my eyes. I'm a proud, patriotic Canadian as it is. But to have your boss actually thank you, well, it just goes back to the power of food."