Goalie Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Trouba doesn't look the same. I'd consider trouba for Hamonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 For all his faults you can't give up on a 21 years old defenceman that most thought would be a stud d for many years to come, sometimes you have to look at how he is being coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Trouba doesn't look the same. I'd consider trouba for Hamonic. Not a good night for Trouba and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 What a lot of people don't realize is that Trouba is seeing minutes against the other team's first lines....he isn't responding well but hopefully he is learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 What a lot of people don't realize is that Trouba is seeing minutes against the other team's first lines....he isn't responding well but hopefully he is learning. His 3rd season though. Trouba 2013 > Trouba 2014 > Trouba 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Was he playing this many minutes against the other teams top lines? I don't think he was. I read something somewhere that had a bunch of numbers of who he played with the most and what line he played against the most. If I remember correctly, he was playing with Lowry, Staf and Burmi while partnered with Stu the most. I still think Hamonic for Myers starts a really serious discussion whether Snow started with Trouba or not....where you expect him to start??? Chiarot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I dunno. How much money does trouba want. The way he's playing.... not much. Hamonic comes cheap.... would definitely sign here when contract is up. I'd Def do myers for Hamonic but depending what the isles would add... I'd consider trouba too. Not sure I'd turn down Hamonic plus Strome or Nelson for Trouba. It's nothing against Trouba... it's just he's regressed pretty huge since zach got traded. No doubt it's linked somewhat. FrostyWinnipeg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Id trade Myers for Hamonic straight up. Another thing, Lowry and Trouba aren't doing much for negotiations for their next contract......neither is Hutch really. Lowry 2 years at 2 per year and Trouba 2 years at 2.8-3.0 per year. Hutch 2 years at 1.2 per year. I would try to lock Scheifele up for 8 years at 5 per year. Something like: 4 4 4.5 5 5 5.5 6 6 before the season started I would have thought Trouba was going to get the longer contract and the rest would get bridge deals but Scheifele has been the only one that has showed enough to warrant a longer contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Maybe Troubas mental health is not as sharp as his rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I heard talk that Trouba's agent will be asking for big time dollars. As an RFA he doesn't have a ton of leverage but you never know with an American player if he will try to hold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I heard talk that Trouba's agent will be asking for big time dollars. As an RFA he doesn't have a ton of leverage but you never know with an American player if he will try to hold out. Why does this apply more to an American player? sweep the leg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I heard talk that Trouba's agent will be asking for big time dollars. As an RFA he doesn't have a ton of leverage but you never know with an American player if he will try to hold out. He would have to start playing like a big time player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Trouba ain't get 4 million the way he's playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I heard talk that Trouba's agent will be asking for big time dollars. As an RFA he doesn't have a ton of leverage but you never know with an American player if he will try to hold out. Why does this apply more to an American player? Maybe it doesn't. But if I had to guess Id say an American player developed through the American system having never played junior, might be more apt to feel he should pick his destination. And a place like Winnipeg might seem more foreign. Perhaps not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 There are multiple examples of Canadian born players that you could say that about (Hello Eric Lindros!) though and American-born players that haven't shown that attitude at all (Drew Stafford for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Okay. Doesnt really matter then. But Stafford played for North Dakota which is practically Canada and also played in the AHL, didnt jump right from US College to NHL. But regardless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 6 assists and zero goals in his last 30 games. That's trouba. He ain't getting big money Ducky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 I guess we're lucking out in some contract years. Ladd, Lowry, Trouba all making it easier to sign them for less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Not to mention Hutch....Scheifele picks it up so me he can get a really nice contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Scheif strikes me as a guy who won't be difficult to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Do you go long term or bridge....I'd sign him long term. He has steadily improved every year and should top out around 60ish points a year. I'd offer him 40m over 8 years today (if you can?). I can see him wearing the "C" or at least an "A" one day. After Stu is gone, I think Scheif gets the "A". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Ryan Johansen is being shopped around....didn't take long for Torts to have some effect on the roster, did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Ryan Johansen is being shopped around....didn't take long for Torts to have some effect on the roster, did it? Whoa, love to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Ladd for Johansen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Ladd for Johansen. You left out Toby, Stu, Petan and Peluso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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