Catch all thread for discussing other NHL teams/news.

 

Up first:  Pittsburgh Penguins, my secondary team to cheer for.

 

I guess their worst start since Sid's rookie year could be because of their lousy defense.  Or bad coaching.  Or Kessel.

 

But in reality its because I took Fleury in my pool every year for 10 years until last year when I was fed up, he has his best year ever and then I took him this year and now he sucks. 

 

But really, whats the deal?  They might be the first to can their coach.

For all his faults you can't give up on a 21 years old defenceman that most thought would be a stud d for many years to come, sometimes you have to look at how he is being coached.

Trouba doesn't look the same. I'd consider trouba for Hamonic.

Not a good night for Trouba and others.

What a lot of people don't realize is that Trouba is seeing minutes against the other team's first lines....he isn't responding well but hopefully  he is learning.

What a lot of people don't realize is that Trouba is seeing minutes against the other team's first lines....he isn't responding well but hopefully  he is learning.

His 3rd season though.

 

Trouba 2013 > Trouba 2014 > Trouba 2015

Was he playing this many minutes against the other  teams top lines? I don't think he was. I read something somewhere that had a bunch of numbers of who he played with the most and what line he played against the most. If I remember correctly, he was playing with Lowry, Staf and Burmi while partnered with Stu the most.

 

I still think Hamonic for Myers starts a really serious discussion whether Snow started with Trouba or not....where you expect him to start??? Chiarot?

I dunno. How much money does trouba want. The way he's playing.... not much. Hamonic comes cheap.... would definitely sign here when contract is up. I'd Def do myers for Hamonic but depending what the isles would add... I'd consider trouba too. Not sure I'd turn down Hamonic plus Strome or Nelson for Trouba.

It's nothing against Trouba... it's just he's regressed pretty huge since zach got traded. No doubt it's linked somewhat.

Id trade Myers for Hamonic straight up.

 

Another thing, Lowry and Trouba aren't doing much for negotiations for their next contract......neither is Hutch really.

Lowry 2 years at 2 per year and Trouba 2 years at 2.8-3.0 per year.

Hutch 2 years at 1.2 per year.

I would try to lock Scheifele up for 8 years at 5 per year.

Something like:

4

4

4.5

5

5

5.5

6

6

before the season started I would have thought Trouba was going to get the longer contract and the rest would get bridge deals but Scheifele has been the only one that has showed enough to warrant a longer contract.

Maybe Troubas mental health is not as sharp as his rookie year.

I heard talk that Trouba's agent will be asking for big time dollars. As an RFA he doesn't have a ton of leverage but you never know with an American player if he will try to hold out.

I heard talk that Trouba's agent will be asking for big time dollars. As an RFA he doesn't have a ton of leverage but you never know with an American player if he will try to hold out.

 

Why does this apply more to an American player?

I heard talk that Trouba's agent will be asking for big time dollars. As an RFA he doesn't have a ton of leverage but you never know with an American player if he will try to hold out.

He would have to start playing like a big time player...

Trouba ain't get 4 million the way he's playing.

I heard talk that Trouba's agent will be asking for big time dollars. As an RFA he doesn't have a ton of leverage but you never know with an American player if he will try to hold out.

Why does this apply more to an American player?

Maybe it doesn't. But if I had to guess Id say an American player developed through the American system having never played junior, might be more apt to feel he should pick his destination. And a place like Winnipeg might seem more foreign. Perhaps not.

There are multiple examples of Canadian born players that you could say that about (Hello Eric Lindros!) though and American-born players that haven't shown that attitude at all (Drew Stafford for example).

Okay.  Doesnt really matter then. But Stafford played for North Dakota which is practically Canada and also played in the AHL, didnt jump right from US College to NHL.

 

But regardless...

6 assists and zero goals in his last 30 games. That's trouba. He ain't getting big money

I guess we're lucking out in some contract years.  Ladd, Lowry, Trouba all making it easier to sign them for less. 

Not to mention Hutch....Scheifele picks it up so me he can get a really nice contract.

Scheif strikes me as a guy who won't be difficult to sign.

Do you go long term or bridge....I'd sign him long term. He has steadily improved every year and should top out around 60ish points a year. I'd offer him 40m over 8 years today (if you can?).

I can see him wearing the "C" or at least an "A" one day. After Stu is gone, I think Scheif gets the "A".

Ryan Johansen is being shopped around....didn't take long for Torts to have some effect on the roster, did it?

Ryan Johansen is being shopped around....didn't take long for Torts to have some effect on the roster, did it?

Whoa, love to have him.

Ladd for Johansen.

Ladd for Johansen.

You left out Toby, Stu, Petan and Peluso.

Toby makes more sense for CBJ actually than Ladd does