rebusrankin Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Doug Brown stated on the post game last night that Winnipeg needs to switch to a run heavy offense. Makes sense. So MB's refusal to do so is that 1. An inability to design such an offense? 2. An OL that can't run block? 3. Pitiful Running Backs? 4. All of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Does anyone have a truck full of cow manure and Marcel Bellefeuille's home address? No reason in particular, just wondering... SPuDS, Fatty Liver and Logan007 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Been saying this for long time - back to Charlie Roberts days - bombers used to be Chicago Bears of cfl - need 20-25 touches a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 And Roberts played on a lot of bad teams too. A one-dimensional offence is extremely likely to fail. You can run 30 times, you're still going to be passing 20-25 times minimum. Someone's gotta make something happen with their arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted August 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 So JBR, the short version is we are hooped because we lack a QB who can make basic plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Or you know don't play Marve cuz he hasn't been good since the first quarter vs the argos. Davis time really. He couldn't be worse really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-F-F-C Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 I don't know if Marve will ever be a starter in this league but do you not think we might be giving up on him a little too soon? Wasn't he something like 11/12 at the half? At least that's what I thought I saw on TSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 I don't know if Marve will ever be a starter in this league but do you not think we might be giving up on him a little too soon? Wasn't he something like 11/12 at the half? At least that's what I thought I saw on TSN. I could do that too if I never threw a pass further than 5 yards downfield and took 5 sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 So JBR, the short version is we are hooped because we lack a QB who can make basic plays? Until a QB makes the defense respect his ability to pass the ball the offense will be spinning its wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-F-F-C Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 I don't know if Marve will ever be a starter in this league but do you not think we might be giving up on him a little too soon? Wasn't he something like 11/12 at the half? At least that's what I thought I saw on TSN. I could do that too if I never threw a pass further than 5 yards downfield and took 5 sacks. All I'm saying is that in the 1st half he was moving the ball but we couldn't capitalize in the red zone. That I lay squarely on the OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Been saying this for long time - back to Charlie Roberts days - bombers used to be Chicago Bears of cfl - need 20-25 touches a game Remember the games against Sask last year when they would start running the ball? Everyone knew what was coming and there was absolutely nothing we could do to stop them running the ball down our throat. Calgary did the same to Sask the game before this one. If your backs are good and your oline can block there isn't much a team can do to stop a run-based O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold_Palmer Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 We don't have a running back that is remotely close to as good as Charles Roberts was. The guy was truly special to watch. Heck we don't even have a quarterback that can throw right now to keep the defence honest. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-F-F-C Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Been saying this for long time - back to Charlie Roberts days - bombers used to be Chicago Bears of cfl - need 20-25 touches a game Remember the games against Sask last year when they would start running the ball? Everyone knew what was coming and there was absolutely nothing we could do to stop them running the ball down our throat. Calgary did the same to Sask the game before this one. If your backs are good and your oline can block there isn't much a team can do to stop a run-based O. It doesn't help when your OC doesn't believe that a running game is important to a balanced offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 I don't know if Marve will ever be a starter in this league but do you not think we might be giving up on him a little too soon? Wasn't he something like 11/12 at the half? At least that's what I thought I saw on TSN. I could do that too if I never threw a pass further than 5 yards downfield and took 5 sacks. All I'm saying is that in the 1st half he was moving the ball but we couldn't capitalize in the red zone. That I lay squarely on the OC. When did they move the ball? They got into the red zone on two turnovers from the D and special teams and couldn't muster more than a first down and a field goal on each. Did they have a single drive with more than 3 first downs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Been saying this for long time - back to Charlie Roberts days - bombers used to be Chicago Bears of cfl - need 20-25 touches a gameRemember the games against Sask last year when they would start running the ball? Everyone knew what was coming and there was absolutely nothing we could do to stop them running the ball down our throat. Calgary did the same to Sask the game before this one. If your backs are good and your oline can block there isn't much a team can do to stop a run-based O. It doesn't help when your OC doesn't believe that a running game is important to a balanced offence. You should look into Bellefeuille's past. He's often had one of the best running attacks in the league and many 1000 yard rushers. There's some bigger issues here related to lack of talent, particularly at QB and OL. Bellefeuille is an average to good OC, nothing spectacular for sure, but he's taking a ridiculous amount of grief for QBs that aren't CFL quality, regardless of what people feel their potential might be. Captain Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Been saying this for long time - back to Charlie Roberts days - bombers used to be Chicago Bears of cfl - need 20-25 touches a game Remember the games against Sask last year when they would start running the ball? Everyone knew what was coming and there was absolutely nothing we could do to stop them running the ball down our throat. Calgary did the same to Sask the game before this one. If your backs are good and your oline can block there isn't much a team can do to stop a run-based O. It doesn't help when your OC doesn't believe that a running game is important to a balanced offence. http://giphy.com/gifs/see-description-RrxTflbTweMlW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 My question is to all the "put Marve in" backers - who were screaming for MOS's head for not playing Marve, are you willing to admit he was right? I think the Bombers have slowly realized how flunked they are at QB...hence the bringing in of those two QBs on the roster. Marve, right now, is no more than a long shot...as a third stringer. Elevate Davis and eliminate Brohm. It's the only move we have right now. We have to beat Saskatchewan and I don't care if they have to bring back Yantz to do it. Don't give Brohm any more reps...cut him, give the reps to Davis. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 My question is to all the "put Marve in" backers - who were screaming for MOS's head for not playing Marve, are you willing to admit he was right? I think the Bombers have slowly realized how flunked they are at QB...hence the bringing in of those two QBs on the roster. Marve, right now, is no more than a long shot...as a third stringer. Elevate Davis and eliminate Brohm. It's the only move we have right now. We have to beat Saskatchewan and I don't care if they have to bring back Yantz to do it. Don't give Brohm any more reps...cut him, give the reps to Davis. O'Shea was NOT right. Brohm was and is far worse than Marve, even with Marve's putrid display Saturday. Brohm hit his performance ceiling as soon as he arrived and has not progressed, but Marve was an unknown, and maybe still is. If the GM and coaches saw that Marve was only as good as he was against Calgary, why in Hades did they even bother keeping him around? Buck can hold a clipboard as well as anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlanticRiderFan Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Does anyone have a truck full of cow manure and Marcel Bellefeuille's home address? No reason in particular, just wondering... Really pissed off at my coaching too. I want to borrow the truck too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 My question is to all the "put Marve in" backers - who were screaming for MOS's head for not playing Marve, are you willing to admit he was right? I think the Bombers have slowly realized how flunked they are at QB...hence the bringing in of those two QBs on the roster. Marve, right now, is no more than a long shot...as a third stringer. Elevate Davis and eliminate Brohm. It's the only move we have right now. We have to beat Saskatchewan and I don't care if they have to bring back Yantz to do it. Don't give Brohm any more reps...cut him, give the reps to Davis. O'Shea was NOT right. Brohm was and is far worse than Marve, even with Marve's putrid display Saturday. Brohm hit his performance ceiling as soon as he arrived and has not progressed, but Marve was an unknown, and maybe still is. If the GM and coaches saw that Marve was only as good as he was against Calgary, why in Hades did they even bother keeping him around? Buck can hold a clipboard as well as anyone.O'Shea said he wasn't ready, and he is right..he isn't. He may never be. Scary as it might sound, Brohm was the better option..as backup at the time. Now, it's pretty obvious, we don't even have a backup.Time for the next man up. This QB thing, over the last few years is...killing us. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 My question is to all the "put Marve in" backers - who were screaming for MOS's head for not playing Marve, are you willing to admit he was right? I think the Bombers have slowly realized how flunked they are at QB...hence the bringing in of those two QBs on the roster. Marve, right now, is no more than a long shot...as a third stringer. Elevate Davis and eliminate Brohm. It's the only move we have right now. We have to beat Saskatchewan and I don't care if they have to bring back Yantz to do it. Don't give Brohm any more reps...cut him, give the reps to Davis. O'Shea was NOT right. Brohm was and is far worse than Marve, even with Marve's putrid display Saturday. Brohm hit his performance ceiling as soon as he arrived and has not progressed, but Marve was an unknown, and maybe still is. If the GM and coaches saw that Marve was only as good as he was against Calgary, why in Hades did they even bother keeping him around? Buck can hold a clipboard as well as anyone.O'Shea said he wasn't ready, and he is right..he isn't. He may never be. Scary as it might sound, Brohm was the better option..as backup at the time. Now, it's pretty obvious, we don't even have a backup.Time for the next man up. This QB thing, over the last few years is...killing us. I suggest that Brohm has proven repeatedly that he is useless, and we did not know how good Marve may be. I repeat my question: if the coaches knew that Marve could never be any better than he showed yesterday, why was he kept? bb1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 Does anyone have a truck full of cow manure and Marcel Bellefeuille's home address? No reason in particular, just wondering... Really pissed off at my coaching too. I want to borrow the truck too. In the meantime, I'll trade you Brohm for Sunseri straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Does anyone have a truck full of cow manure and Marcel Bellefeuille's home address? No reason in particular, just wondering... Really pissed off at my coaching too. I want to borrow the truck too. In the meantime, I'll trade you Brohm for Sunseri straight up. That would be like trading projectile diahorrea for an impacted colon. bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Does anyone have a truck full of cow manure and Marcel Bellefeuille's home address? No reason in particular, just wondering... Really pissed off at my coaching too. I want to borrow the truck too. In the meantime, I'll trade you Brohm for Sunseri straight up. That would be like trading projectile diahorrea for an impacted colon. LOL! But half seriously, I didn't see any gophers killed by Sunseri today and he actually made some good throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Run an empty backfield no QB and no RBs.....oh I forgot we already run an O. With no QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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