gbill2004 Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 I don't believe Ray will be able to do anything significant this season anyway. He's coming back from pretty much the worst injury for a QB other than being decapitated. I can't think of any QB who's returned from a torn labrum/rotator cuff and been able to play well within a calendar year. Usually ends careers. If the Argos get a good offer during this season they'd be crazy not to take it.I heard Ray was throwing 45 yard bombs in practice a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 I don't believe Ray will be able to do anything significant this season anyway. He's coming back from pretty much the worst injury for a QB other than being decapitated. I can't think of any QB who's returned from a torn labrum/rotator cuff and been able to play well within a calendar year. Usually ends careers. If the Argos get a good offer during this season they'd be crazy not to take it.I heard Ray was throwing 45 yard bombs in practice a few weeks ago. they don't look like bombs. but he plays 40 yard games of toss. i'm no doctor (but i play one with my girlfriends), but i reckon about 4 weeks. he looks great otherwise, very fit (for him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 I don't believe Ray will be able to do anything significant this season anyway. He's coming back from pretty much the worst injury for a QB other than being decapitated. I can't think of any QB who's returned from a torn labrum/rotator cuff and been able to play well within a calendar year. Usually ends careers. If the Argos get a good offer during this season they'd be crazy not to take it.I heard Ray was throwing 45 yard bombs in practice a few weeks ago. I'm sure he was. I'd like to see how accurate he can be with a 300 lb monster coming full speed at him along with how his shoulder holds up after contact and weeks of throwing 1000 balls a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 I don't believe Ray will be able to do anything significant this season anyway. He's coming back from pretty much the worst injury for a QB other than being decapitated. I can't think of any QB who's returned from a torn labrum/rotator cuff and been able to play well within a calendar year. Usually ends careers. If the Argos get a good offer during this season they'd be crazy not to take it.I heard Ray was throwing 45 yard bombs in practice a few weeks ago. I'm sure he was. I'd like to see how accurate he can be with a 300 lb monster coming full speed at him along with how his shoulder holds up after contact and weeks of throwing 1000 balls a week. I highly doubt QBs throw 1000 passes per week. JayBallz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 I don't believe Ray will be able to do anything significant this season anyway. He's coming back from pretty much the worst injury for a QB other than being decapitated. I can't think of any QB who's returned from a torn labrum/rotator cuff and been able to play well within a calendar year. Usually ends careers. If the Argos get a good offer during this season they'd be crazy not to take it.I heard Ray was throwing 45 yard bombs in practice a few weeks ago. they don't look like bombs. but he plays 40 games of toss. i'm no doctor (but i play one with my girlfriends), but i reckon about 4 weeks. he looks great otherwise, very fit (for him). You the nurse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Ray is the best insurance policy in the league. Harris goes down you have a hall of famer coming to take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Argos are a QB factory recently. Bet if both Harris and Ray went down, gale would do the job too. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't believe Ray will be able to do anything significant this season anyway. He's coming back from pretty much the worst injury for a QB other than being decapitated. I can't think of any QB who's returned from a torn labrum/rotator cuff and been able to play well within a calendar year. Usually ends careers. If the Argos get a good offer during this season they'd be crazy not to take it.I heard Ray was throwing 45 yard bombs in practice a few weeks ago. I'm sure he was. I'd like to see how accurate he can be with a 300 lb monster coming full speed at him along with how his shoulder holds up after contact and weeks of throwing 1000 balls a week. I highly doubt QBs throw 1000 passes per week. You ever see a time where a QB goes 5 minutes at a football practice without throwing a ball? 3-4 practices a week plus game with warmups for all. Easily throwing 200 balls a day. iso_55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't believe Ray will be able to do anything significant this season anyway. He's coming back from pretty much the worst injury for a QB other than being decapitated. I can't think of any QB who's returned from a torn labrum/rotator cuff and been able to play well within a calendar year. Usually ends careers. If the Argos get a good offer during this season they'd be crazy not to take it.I heard Ray was throwing 45 yard bombs in practice a few weeks ago. I'm sure he was. I'd like to see how accurate he can be with a 300 lb monster coming full speed at him along with how his shoulder holds up after contact and weeks of throwing 1000 balls a week. I highly doubt QBs throw 1000 passes per week. You ever see a time where a QB goes 5 minutes at a football practice without throwing a ball? 3-4 practices a week plus game with warmups for all. Easily throwing 200 balls a day. Absolutely true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Ray gets traded at the draft... Kevin Glenn and 1st overall 2016, 2nd round 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Ray gets traded at the draft... Kevin Glenn and 1st overall 2016, 2nd round 2017 Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't believe Ray will be able to do anything significant this season anyway. He's coming back from pretty much the worst injury for a QB other than being decapitated. I can't think of any QB who's returned from a torn labrum/rotator cuff and been able to play well within a calendar year. Usually ends careers. If the Argos get a good offer during this season they'd be crazy not to take it.I heard Ray was throwing 45 yard bombs in practice a few weeks ago. they don't look like bombs. but he plays 40 games of toss. i'm no doctor (but i play one with my girlfriends), but i reckon about 4 weeks. he looks great otherwise, very fit (for him). We keep telling you that 16 and 17 year old girls aren't legal yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Ray gets traded at the draft... Kevin Glenn and 1st overall 2016, 2nd round 2017 LOL! Classic. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Ray gets traded at the draft... Kevin Glenn and 1st overall 2016, 2nd round 2017 LOL! Classic. Just don't show Noeller. He hates gifs. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Given the rash of QB injuries and how Winnipeg was hanging by a thread on Willy not being healthy QB depth is paramount in the CFL. So can't see TO moving Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Bluto's posts in this thread are making the most sense. As much as I dislike Barker, he's not stupid enough to deal a "back-up" of that calibre when you're trying to win it all this year... SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-F-F-C Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Harris is the future. Ray is the present but will soon be the past. He'll look good in Rider green.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holoman Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 Barker isn't trading Ray anytime soon unless someone (Taman) is willing to deal a starting INT, and NAT , a few draft picks, and a left nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Lost in all of this is the fact that Ray pulls down close to 500k a season. That contract does not allow any team to sit him on the bench counting against the cap. The smart move for Toronto is to move Ray and his contract when he is healthy and use some of the cap savings to get Harris to extend a few years and maybe add a quality player or two at the NFL cuts. That is, of course, predicating on him being healthy enough to play which is no slam dunk. As JBR says, a torn rotator cuff is no joke. It takes a lot of time to regain strength and cannot be rushed. Him throwing 40 yards in practice means literally nothing. Good throwing mechanics and proper footing take a lot of stress off the shoulder. It`s when he needs to rely on arm strength alone that the degree of his injury will be really noticed. I know, I tore mine a few years back. I could throw leisurely and as long as I was well planted the arm strength was there. Anytime I was off balance or trying to release quickly is when the shoulder turned to mush and you would lose ALL power and get devastating pain when throwing. Couldn`t throw a football 10 on just arm strength. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Harris is the future. Ray is the present but will soon be the past. He'll look good in Rider green.. No one looks good in Rider green. Blue-urns, Logan007, Fraser and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 ha, ha. Riders. They don't get younger. They just get older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 ha, ha. Riders. They don't get younger. They just get older. They don't get any cuter either. I am, of course, referring to their fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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