TrueBlue4ever Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 By any chance, are you J Mack's ex? If I was married to Mack, I would have been justified in leaving him because 17to85 was clearly in bed with him for all those years. And Mack should owe me alimony for all the season ticket money of mine he wasted while he was here. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Worrying about goossen already... Priceless!! Pencer was crapped on immediately. I'm just pointing out the bit of hypocrisy that exists. You don't see any other differences in their situations? What's different? Both high draft picks that were a reach taken as high as they were and neither one was able to solidify a roster spot, except one had a lot of injury excuses at least. Oh, so that's where he went with it.How about: Goossen - taken #2, ranked #4 in o-linemen (#2 for those GMs thought wouldn't bolt to the NFL) and #9 overall, was 3 year conference all-star and captain of his college team heading into draft, no injury history from college or attitude issues to worry about that we know of, played in 15 games and started 3 in his first year, missed 3 games to injury last year before this year's injury woes at the start of camp in just his 2nd season. Pencer - Taken #3, ranked #6 among o-lineman and not even ranked overall on some draft projections, had serious injury concerns from his college days (both shoulders messed up and caused him to miss significant playing time in university football), walked away from one football program midstream for "personal" reasons, got hurt in practice pretty much right away, one start and 6 or so games on roster before being cut, picked up by Edmonton in may and cut by June this year having seen no action in his 4th season. And since your gripe is more about Mack not getting cut the same slack, Pencer wasn't his one-off in draft errors. His draft history of off-the-board Etienne, out-of-position Aprile, and never-going-to-see-the-CFL-anyway Mulumba gave him a lot less leeway to make a mistake when he got outplayed for Westerman and then begged people to believe that Pencer was his plan all along in trading up so he wouldn't have to admit he got schooled. If you want to (still repeatedly) defend Joe Mack, there are better ways to do it than by touting his draft record. Actually, there may not be a better way to defend Mack job-performance-wise, but I doubt there are many worse ways to do it. actually this is less about defending Mack and more about arguing the idea that Kyle Walters is some kind of draft guru. Chung looks like a good pick but other than that which draft picks of his have really made an impact? It seems that being not Joe Mack is enough for people to think Walters is the greatest thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 No one is making the argument that Walters is a draft guru. Neither were you.Your argument was that Mack wasn't cut as much slack for an injury-prone developing draft choice. The counter-argument is that Walters doesn't have the repeated history of screwing up like Mack did...yet. If he does, I'm sure the knives will come out on this board as they always do. And if the baseline standard for greatness as a GM is Joe Mack, then the bar to be "the greatest" really isn't set too high, now is it? blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 I wonder why we're not giving Newman a shot at safety Good question. Maybe he's only been taking reps at LB since he's been with the Bombers? I know he played some safety with the Riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Bob Irving @BobIrvingCJOB 2m2 minutes ago Moe leggett leaves bomber practice late. Might be limping. Teague Sherman at safety. In O'Shea's presser today, he said that Leggett told him he'd be fine and will be back at tomorrow's practice. Noeller, northof60 and Mark F 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Worrying about goossen already... Priceless!! Pencer was crapped on immediately. I'm just pointing out the bit of hypocrisy that exists. Walters gets so many free passes by some people and the previous GM got raked over the coals for any little thing see your love affair with Mack hasn't lost its luster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 just heard on the radio today, cjob, upper deck show, (Kennerd and Cameron guests, great program) that Lirim, and Bucknor, were both undrafted, both found and signed by Walters. Trevor Kennard had high praise for Lirim. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 just heard on the radio today, cjob, upper deck show, (Kennerd and Cameron guests, great program) that Lirim, and Bucknor, were both undrafted, both found and signed by Walters. Trevor Kennard had high praise for Lirim. I knee lirim wasn't but bucknor is quite impressive fer undrafted.. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Even better, Bucknor was swiped from Hamilton for Johnny Aprile back in a '14 trade. He was undrafted though. Mark F and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 From O'Shea's press conference yesterday he mentioned the reason they went with Brohm over Marve on short-yardage was because Marve was knicked up. Controversy over. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Tad Gibson is expected to start at Peach DE position. Tony Burnett is expected to be on the lineup as depth LB and special teams. What LB position does Burnett plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Thought he played some Sam and Will during the preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomberBall Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Thaddeus Gibson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I like the possibility that at times in the game Sliding Bass in the middle with Randle and Burnett outside. See what that does with the defence especially with another game under Collins belt to be in better game shape. I know the coaching staff are saying all the right things with Hurl and the Blue aren't in the business of tossing guys under bus publicly but after watching him the first part of the year I am not sold, and not sure he will ever develop into a full-time starter. Just doesn't have it, and from what I see doesn't have the natural instincts, nor reacts well to whats developing, has to take time to process and think and it hinders him in making impact plays bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I like the possibility that at times in the game Sliding Bass in the middle with Randle and Burnett outside. See what that does with the defence especially with another game under Collins belt to be in better game shape. I know the coaching staff are saying all the right things with Hurl and the Blue aren't in the business of tossing guys under bus publicly but after watching him the first part of the year I am not sold, and not sure he will ever develop into a full-time starter. Just doesn't have it, and from what I see doesn't have the natural instincts, nor reacts well to whats developing, has to take time to process and think and it hinders him in making impact plays Interesting...that's the opposite of what MOS thinks about him. He has said it more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Well, Unlike his coach to the direct west of us, MOS doesn't throw his players under the bus so i wouldn't expect him to come out and say Hurl sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 just heard on the radio today, cjob, upper deck show, (Kennerd and Cameron guests, great program) that Lirim, and Bucknor, were both undrafted, both found and signed by Walters. Trevor Kennard had high praise for Lirim. Lirim was found by Walters, but Bucknor was a CFL veteran who had many starts before he became a Bomber. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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