October 25, 201411 yr TSN had a stat. that in 61 out of 66 games this year the team with the most yards rushing has won the game. Seems contrary to Etch's theory that the pass is the primary determinant of wins in the CFL.
October 25, 201411 yr But, but...we have been told repeatedly that the run game is just not important any more. What's a girl to think?
October 25, 201411 yr Correlation does not imply causation. Teams that are winning and likely to win run the ball heavily.
October 25, 201411 yr TSN had a stat. that in 61 out of 66 games this year the team with the most yards rushing yards has won the game. Seems contrary to Etch's theory that the pass is the primary determinant of wins in the CFL. That statement is not proof. It simply isn't supported by that statistic you provided. That's taken out of context. Too many factors haven't been included, including passing yards and turnovers.
October 25, 201411 yr TSN had a stat. that in 61 out of 66 games this year the team with the most yards rushing yards has won the game. Seems contrary to Etch's theory that the pass is the primary determinant of wins in the CFL. Control the line of scrimmage and 92.424242 times, you win the game.
October 25, 201411 yr Author TSN had a stat. that in 61 out of 66 games this year the team with the most yards rushing yards has won the game. Seems contrary to Etch's theory that the pass is the primary determinant of wins in the CFL. That statement is not proof. It simply isn't supported by that statistic you provided. That's taken out of context. Too many factors haven't been included, including passing yards and turnovers. Never said it was a proof, just an interesting stat. Interpret it as you like.
October 25, 201411 yr TSN had a stat. that in 61 out of 66 games this year the team with the most yards rushing yards has won the game. Seems contrary to Etch's theory that the pass is the primary determinant of wins in the CFL. MOS has been telling us the same thing he isn't worried about the number of yards the other teams gets...seems contrary to everything we have be told over the years by the broadcasters...
October 25, 201411 yr TSN had a stat. that in 61 out of 66 games this year the team with the most yards rushing yards has won the game. Seems contrary to Etch's theory that the pass is the primary determinant of wins in the CFL. MOS has been telling us the same thing he isn't worried about the number of yards the other teams gets...seems contrary to everything we have be told over the years by the broadcasters... We have a seven game losing streak happening. Maybe MOS should worry.
October 25, 201411 yr TSN had a stat. that in 61 out of 66 games this year the team with the most yards rushing yards has won the game. Seems contrary to Etch's theory that the pass is the primary determinant of wins in the CFL. MOS has been telling us the same thing he isn't worried about the number of yards the other teams gets...seems contrary to everything we have be told over the years by the broadcasters... He's been asked specifically about yardage in certain games..referring to run yards. That is when he has said he was wasn't worried…in those situations. Not a blanket statement as you're implying.
October 25, 201411 yr That's like the "The Bombers are 36-0 whenever Charles Roberts runs for 100 yards" stat. Teams go into clock kill mode late in games. Not that it isn't important, this is just misleading is all.
October 25, 201411 yr Author That's like the "The Bombers are 36-0 whenever Charles Roberts runs for 100 yards" stat. Teams go into clock kill mode late in games. Not that it isn't important, this is just misleading is all. Except that this stat. refers to every game played this year so it can't be dismissed out of hand when it accounts for 92% of all wins. I'm sure if the team with the most passing yards had won with that frequency TSN would have brought that stat. up as well. I wonder how much of the remaining 8% accounts for Bomber victories, I think they out rushed the Argos the RB's and BC early in the season but can't recall them doing it since. (Sorry, too lazy to look through the game stats.)
October 25, 201411 yr Some interesting points are made for sure. Definitely when a team is 'leading', the best way to control the game is to run the ball, and if you are behind, you need to score as quickly as possible, which is through the air. So I do think the stats are skewed to a certain degree. But, all that being said, it's 92% of wins as TLB says. That statistic is too large a number to be dismissed as 'happenstance'. 60%, even 65%, I fully buy into the "running the ball in the lead" argument. 92%... not so much.
October 25, 201411 yr 100% of the games this season have been won by the team that scored the most points! That's a nice little stat to throw on a graphic but it really just amounts to saying the same thing. The team that plays better and accumulates more stats wins the game.
October 25, 201411 yr Well, statsjunkie posted the numbers at the other site: The Bombers have been out-rushed by their opponents in 13 of the 16 games so far, that's 81.25% and only out-passed by those same opponents 7 times, that's 43.75%. There's a reason Casino's make money and it's based on the same probabilities.
October 25, 201411 yr …….. Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures. Evan Esar Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain Statistics are no substitute for judgment - Henry Clay “99 percent of all statistics only tell 49 percent of the story.” ― Ron DeLegge II,
October 25, 201411 yr Well, statsjunkie posted the numbers at the other site: The Bombers have been out-rushed by their opponents in 13 of the 16 games so far, that's 81.25% and only out-passed by those same opponents 7 times, that's 43.75%. There's a reason Casino's make money and it's based on the same probabilities. That shows is that teams playing us were having a better game rushing so were doing more of it. The original stats posted show two things: 1 - The teams with better rushing yards do so with a better offensive line. 2 - If you have a better offensive line the passing game will also be better Therefore: you win more games.
October 25, 201411 yr …….. Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures. Evan Esar Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain Statistics are no substitute for judgment - Henry Clay “99 percent of all statistics only tell 49 percent of the story.” ― Ron DeLegge II, "Not paying attention to what the stats reveal will give you a 6-12 team." Norman Einstein.
October 25, 201411 yr Not quite having all the pieces in place will likely get you a 6-10 team. - Me.
October 25, 201411 yr …….. Definition of Statistics: The science of producing unreliable facts from reliable figures. Evan Esar Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable. Mark Twain Statistics are no substitute for judgment - Henry Clay “99 percent of all statistics only tell 49 percent of the story.” ― Ron DeLegge II, Statistics are like a bikini, what they reveal is suggestive but what they conceal is vital
October 25, 201411 yr "While nothing is more uncertain than a single life, nothing is more certain than the average duration of a thousand lives." Elizur Wright "A judicious man looks on statistics not to get knowledge, but to save himself from having ignorance foisted on him." Thomas Carlyle
October 25, 201411 yr "A square peg will only fit into a round hole if it is smaller." Dr. I.C. Spots.
October 25, 201411 yr Etch needs to go. It's that simple. He's going to switch to a 3-4 defence and Oshea will claim problem solved, no need for changes.
October 25, 201411 yr Etch needs to go. It's that simple. He's going to switch to a 3-4 defence and Oshea will claim problem solved, no need for changes. Then MOS will sink along with Etcheverry. If he gets stubborn & brings him back then he deserves to go back to the Argos as ST coach.
TSN had a stat. that in 61 out of 66 games this year the team with the most yards rushing has won the game. Seems contrary to Etch's theory that the pass is the primary determinant of wins in the CFL.