iso_55 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 What we should do? Replace all the coordinators for one. For gosh sakes try to do something... anything with the offensive line. Get a new running back. Continue to upgrade Canadian talent. Be very, very active in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 It's sad that even Ottawa's offensive line is better than ours, and we're playing three imports, and that's with the supposed guru of offensive line coaches, coaching or something. KptKrunch and Logan007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KptKrunch Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I said in my tough love thread I started a few weeks ago that Willy should sit. Back to back blowouts - I see no use in starting Willy anymore. He drops to #3 in the depth chart. Why? Cause he's the best, by far, QB we got. We need to preserve him. Last thing we need, especially with a banged up shoulder (ask Khari and Travis what a banged up shoulder on your throwing arm does for your career), is Willy taking another hellacious hit on that shoulder as we have no plan without him. If he throws another pass this year, I'll throw up. Time (like I said a few weeks ago) to see what, if anything Marve is capable of. Brohm gets the starts but Marve needs to see some significant playing time. Willy shouldn't play unless #'s 1 and 2 (Brohm and Marve) get killed, which could quite possibly happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Frankly, I think that Willy has been banged up for quite a while.......that hand may be a problem....perhaps since the 5th game and the 2nd helmet jam, on it - Drew has had problems connecting on the long balls past that point. He simply looks beat down and depressed, at this point....with no relief (competent blocking) in sight. Might not be a bad idea to give Brohm and Marve some extended reps, moving forward...... blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Oh yeah, we should definitely not play WIlly at all until the team is - at least - in the Grey Cup game. No point in risking injury until we know we have a shot at the ultimate goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddanger Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Until we upgrade the o'line, the d'line and the two coordinators ( OC and DC ) this is just going to continue. What happened to Dan Knapp?? That hitch pass we throw over and over again for no yards......why??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Frankly, I think that Willy has been banged up for quite a while.......that hand may be a problem....perhaps since the 5th game and the 2nd helmet jam, on it - Drew has had problems connecting on the long balls past that point. He simply looks beat down and depressed, at this point....with no relief (competent blocking) in sight. Might not be a bad idea to give Brohm and Marve some extended reps, moving forward...... Yeah Noeller and I have been talking about that all summer, Willy ain't right, the accuracy just disappeared on him. The offseason is going to hit and we're going to get a long list of the things Willy has been playing through. Guy is beat up some kind of bad and it's not getting better. He is at the point where he doesn't trust his protection anymore either. Play Brohm, he looked decent for a backup, was throwing the ball quickly at least rather than just bracing for the hit. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The source of this mess can also be attributed to hiring friends and or acquaintances. I'm pretty sure the Tracey hire fits that category and most likely Etch. They both have to go. Belefueille should also be on the bubble. They're incompetent. Mike also has to figure out that you can't be buddy buddy and act like a player. You won't get much accountability with that scenario. This team did not show up for two games now. If O'Shea can't see the huge red flags, then he better take a good long snort of the stuff he has at the bench. Wake-up Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I heard, must have been a post game show, that there are fourteen o lineman on the bombers right now. So obviously the team is concerned about that. can remember who said it. If there are fourteen, the guys we have are probably trying their best, and just aren't good enough. If we have a three hour brawler, (Anderson) let's have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 You know everyone is on Etchevary but between he and Bellefeuille he's been the more reliable of the two and the quicker to make adjustments. Bellefeuille is still the same guy that nearly ended Anthony Calvillos career about 7 years before it actually ended. Guy is pathetically average and not very creative at all. I'd upgrade him before anyone else. Fatty Liver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I heard, must have been a post game show, that there are fourteen o lineman on the bombers right now. So obviously the team is concerned about that. can remember who said it. If there are fourteen, the guys we have are probably trying their best, and just aren't good enough. If we have a three hour brawler, (Anderson) let's have a look. If we have been through 14 linemen and still cannot find 5 decent starters, someone's head should be on the block. It seems that every O-lineman we start is worse than the one he replaced. How bad must Hinze and Swystun be if they cannot crack this lineup? Goossen played a bit yesterday and wasn't noticeably bad, so maybe his time is done. The Roman Legions would execute every 10th soldier after a bad loss, so maybe its time to do that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I heard, must have been a post game show, that there are fourteen o lineman on the bombers right now. So obviously the team is concerned about that. can remember who said it. If there are fourteen, the guys we have are probably trying their best, and just aren't good enough. If we have a three hour brawler, (Anderson) let's have a look. If we have been through 14 linemen and still cannot find 5 decent starters, someone's head should be on the block. It seems that every O-lineman we start is worse than the one he replaced. How bad must Hinze and Swystun be if they cannot crack this lineup? Goossen played a bit yesterday and wasn't noticeably bad, so maybe his time is done. The Roman Legions would execute every 10th soldier after a bad loss, so maybe its time to do that here. False, I kept asking who #61 was yesterday cause I kept seeing him getting overwhelmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 so…. decimation needed? I like it. Roman Empire did pretty well for a long time. can't remember who gave that fourteen number but I guess if you know where to look it's not hard to confirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The fact that they've got 14 OL kicking around and can't find 5 worth a damn is a pretty big problem. TBURGESS and Mark F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 You know everyone is on Etchevary but between he and Bellefeuille he's been the more reliable of the two and the quicker to make adjustments. Bellefeuille is still the same guy that nearly ended Anthony Calvillos career about 7 years before it actually ended. Guy is pathetically average and not very creative at all. I'd upgrade him before anyone else. They both have to go as you can't waste another year recruiting players to fit their needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KptKrunch Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Oh yeah, we should definitely not play WIlly at all until the team is - at least - in the Grey Cup game. No point in risking injury until we know we have a shot at the ultimate goal. Hey max I disagree completely with this. Not sure why you'd say that? Unless your being sarcastic - in which case maybe you should re-read my post. Or phone Khari Jones and ask him how his shoulder is doing. Tell me, what's the point of playing your #1 guy, who you are banking on for next year and beyond, with a banged up hand and shoulder, with an offensive line that can't block and zero running game. Go ahead, I'm listening, I'd love to hear you non-sarcastic comment on why playing Willy to finish out the string (who btw is probably the worst QB in the league right now - don't believe me look at his stats the last few games - don't take my word on it) and risk his career on a lost season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Oh yeah, we should definitely not play WIlly at all until the team is - at least - in the Grey Cup game. No point in risking injury until we know we have a shot at the ultimate goal. Hey max I disagree completely with this. Not sure why you'd say that? Unless your being sarcastic - in which case maybe you should re-read my post. Or phone Khari Jones and ask him how his shoulder is doing. Tell me, what's the point of playing your #1 guy, who you are banking on for next year and beyond, with a banged up hand and shoulder, with an offensive line that can't block and zero running game. Go ahead, I'm listening, I'd love to hear you non-sarcastic comment on why playing Willy to finish out the string (who btw is probably the worst QB in the league right now - don't believe me look at his stats the last few games - don't take my word on it) and risk his career on a lost season. I agree it would be good to rest Willy, but unless he is not ready to go Doctor wise, or until we are officially eliminated from the playoffs, I still think you'll see him playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Oh yeah, we should definitely not play WIlly at all until the team is - at least - in the Grey Cup game. No point in risking injury until we know we have a shot at the ultimate goal. Hey max I disagree completely with this. Not sure why you'd say that? Unless your being sarcastic - in which case maybe you should re-read my post. Or phone Khari Jones and ask him how his shoulder is doing. Tell me, what's the point of playing your #1 guy, who you are banking on for next year and beyond, with a banged up hand and shoulder, with an offensive line that can't block and zero running game. Go ahead, I'm listening, I'd love to hear you non-sarcastic comment on why playing Willy to finish out the string (who btw is probably the worst QB in the league right now - don't believe me look at his stats the last few games - don't take my word on it) and risk his career on a lost season. I agree it would be good to rest Willy, but unless he is not ready to go Doctor wise, or until we are officially eliminated from the playoffs, I still think you'll see him playing. I'm not sure why some people don't seem to understand that Willy is a first year starter and needs the reps. If he's healthy, you play him. It's that simple. If he struggles you take him out, if he's banged up you take him out but the guy is a first year starter and these are very valuable reps for him. max power 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 What Goalie said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 We should have rested Willy in the Hamilton or Ottawa game... he has been playing banged up for some time and we've never given him a chance to heal. If we have a crap game in Winnipeg next week, the boo birds will be out and, man, am I sick of seeing QBs ruined by that. Brohm and Marve against Calgary. Bring back Willy against BC. Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I don't think it's the boo birds ruining our QBs so much as it is we are constantly throwing QBs into games looooong before they have any business running the offense in the regular season. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I don't think it's the boo birds ruining our QBs so much as it is we are constantly throwing QBs into games looooong before they have any business running the offense in the regular season. Yeah i really don't think the team cares if there are boo birds out, i mean really, if the team is being run by the fans and players are being sent packing cuz the fans are booing, we got bigger problems then who the coach or players are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I don't think it's the boo birds ruining our QBs so much as it is we are constantly throwing QBs into games looooong before they have any business running the offense in the regular season. I would like to think Wpg. fans are too knowledgeable to ever boo Willy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 We do love us some willy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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