Atomic Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 How about sticking with Walters as GM and Moll as player personnel director? I feel like Moll has done his job pretty well. I like that Walters has experience as a player, as a coach, as an AGM, and running a college football program. He might be a better fit than people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousBIG Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Do a nation wide headhunter search like they did to hire Buchko. There is some indication as to the flaws in the current hiring process in place in the organization. Ouch! And true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 The way this news was leaked by the board has me wondering how this will look to people approached for the gig.... Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousBIG Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 So short list is.... * Higgins * Jones * Murphy (John) * Murphy (Son Of Cal) * O'Day * McEvoy * Walters * Belichick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 The professional thing to do would be to keep the discussion internal so that all parties involved could get the information in a similar timeframe. Leaking it like this puts undue pressure on Board members and, depending on how maleable that person is, can bias their decision. It's also a bit of a farce that Mack (regardless of how you feel about him) has to hear about his impending demise through a gossip column. People like to complain about professionalism (whether it's a coach, a player or other parts of the organization) .. this is yet another example where the Board falls short .. do you think True North would air their dirty laundry in the media? Likely not. The professional thing to do would be to keep the discussion internal so that all parties involved could get the information in a similar timeframe. Leaking it like this puts undue pressure on Board members and, depending on how maleable that person is, can bias their decision. It's also a bit of a farce that Mack (regardless of how you feel about him) has to hear about his impending demise through a gossip column. People like to complain about professionalism (whether it's a coach, a player or other parts of the organization) .. this is yet another example where the Board falls short .. do you think True North would air their dirty laundry in the media? Likely not. This is the problem with a publicly owned team & a Board with someone who can't keep his mouth shut. A private owner would just fire the guy & be done with it. Not have someone leak it to the media that Mack's gone next Tuesday. One of three things is going to happen now, the BOD get cold feet & don't fire him, two, they fire him in an emergency meeting before Tuesday or they ride it out & do it then. I'll be glad when Mack is gone but this seems so heartless. Even I have feelings for the man & how bush league this is. The best thing to do, if they are going to fire him (now that is has gone public) is have a conference call today & get it done. And yeah, remove the snake from the Board who talked to Lawless. Inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 So short list is.... * Higgins * Jones * Murphy (John) * Murphy (Son Of Cal) * O'Day * McEvoy * Walters * Belichick Higgins. Belichek??? WTH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I would like Murphy. He'd get the warm bodies into camp and I suspect he wouldn't meddle on the field. He'd be my #2 after Higgins, maybe even 1B. Chris Jones as GM? Are you off your rocker? That guy appears to have some control issues to boot Jones is loyal to no one but himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Barker said when he left Winnipeg after his interview and read about things said in the confines of the interview the next day in the paper he didn't want the job. That should tell people something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 If Higgins was a realistic option, I'd be in favor. I don't think he's interested, though. Higgins misses the sidelines. He took the Head of Ref job with the CFL to stay close to the game. If the position becomes available, he'll go after it. Especially as GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Barker said when he left Winnipeg after his interview and read about things said in the confines of the interview the next day in the paper he didn't want the job. That should tell people something. This isn't true. He's on record as saying, as recently as last year, he really wanted the job in Winnipeg. Not sure where you got this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Well if they did hire Murphy we can still keep the IMWT It can also bring out the "Murphy's Law" syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Higgins. Belichek??? WTH? iso_55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousBIG Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Higgins misses the sidelines. He took the Head of Ref job with the CFL to stay close to the game. If the position becomes available, he'll go after it. Especially as GM. Hope you're right. He's my first choice. Even though he's not as "sexy" a choice as some of the others, we really need some stability and experience in the big chair. Your "misses the sidelines" is a bit of a red flag to me -- I hope he's smart enough to hire an O-minded coach and then focus on finding players, not meddling on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 This isn't true. He's on record as saying, as recently as last year, he really wanted the job in Winnipeg. Not sure where you got this. the constant bullshit-creating machine that constantly is drawn on by idiots in our fanbase and media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair GM Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 As much as I've supported Mack in the past ... and I do feel like a lot of the criticism he receives is unwarranted ... I can only be so patient with the one glaring thing he's failed to address. If he can't get it together and piece together a capable offense after four years, it's time for him to go. Couldn't agree more. Love how Mack turned our NI content around... but we've been one of the 2 weakest franchises in the CFL 3 of his 4 years, because we cannot generate offense. His failures to address QB and offensive game planning are his downfalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Now THAT is funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Couldn't agree more. Love how Mack turned our NI content around... but we've been one of the 2 weakest franchises in the CFL 3 of his 4 years, because we cannot generate offense. His failures to address QB and offensive game planning are his downfalls. Not trading away all of our draft picks every year can really pay benefits for you down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 one thing is for certain, the next GM is walking into a hell of a lot better situation than Mack walked into in terms of the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 Hope you're right. He's my first choice. Even though he's not as "sexy" a choice as some of the others, we really need some stability and experience in the big chair. Your "misses the sidelines" is a bit of a red flag to me -- I hope he's smart enough to hire an O-minded coach and then focus on finding players, not meddling on the field. In Calgary, he was GM & HC & did a very good job handling both. Higgins is one of the few people out there who could do both jobs well because he finds excellent assistants & lets them do their jobs. And he knows all 3 facets of the game very well. There'd be none of this, "I don't know offense" crap coming from him. He's not a control freak but at the same time, he's the boss. He trusts the people he hires will do their jobs. Like I said, watching him turn the Stamps around so quickly from a disaster in 2004 to a second place team in the West in 2005 was impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 I've come around on HIggins, not because I think he's good, but because I just think at this stage a "safe" pick like that is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 In Calgary, he was GM & HC & did a very good job handling both. Higgins is one of the few people out there who could do both jobs well because he finds excellent assistants & lets them do their jobs. And he knows all 3 facets of the game very well. There'd be none of this, "I don't know offense" crap coming from him. He's not a control freak but at the same time, he's the boss. He trusts the people he hires will do their jobs. Like I said, watching him turn the Stamps around so quickly from a disaster in 2004 to a second place team in the West in 2005 was impressive. are you and Higgins secret lovers or something? Not that there's anything wrong with that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 This leak and 'impending' firing is bullfrog. Do it....or don't do it, but to drag it out is s_t_u_p_i_d. Listen, I don't know what's in the works as far as scouting NFL cuts and talking with potential neg. list personnel but I would suspect there is some on-going activity and there might even be some on-going trade talks. Now what? Mack should have been talked to and these things figured out before this info. came out. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 What did you think Barker was going to say? R u kidding. Not like some he gave the politically correct answer. People in the football business know while you have a job never close doors or stopping worrying about your next job. Just look at the recycling that goes on in an 8 team league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 This leak and 'impending' firing is bullfrog. Do it....or don't do it, but to drag it out is s_t_u_p_i_d. Listen, I don't know what's in the works as far as scouting NFL cuts and talking with potential neg. list personnel but I would suspect there is some on-going activity and there might even be some on-going trade talks. Now what? Mack should have been talked to and these things figured out before this info. came out. well here's something.... what is the GM hears the rumours he's being fired and decided to go out in the blaze of sour grapes and starts gutting the roster just for spite? I don't believe he'd do that, but it's the risks you take when you leak **** like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted August 8, 2013 Report Share Posted August 8, 2013 What did you think Barker was going to say? R u kidding. Not like some he gave the politically correct answer. People in the football business know while you have a job never close doors or stopping worrying about your next job. Just look at the recycling that goes on in an 8 team league. So you admit that you basically just pulled your last post out of your ass? Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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