iso_55 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Bombers signed Willy to a 3 year contract (2 + 1). He'll be almost 31 when the deal is up so I doubt he goes to the NFL. Good chance Willy is our QB for the next 10 years. He's had his NFL chance so I think he'll be good to go here for years to come. Plus, we gave him his shot when no one else did. I think he'll always remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Does anyone recall how old Ray was when he got his try out with the New York Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Does anyone recall how old Ray was when he got his try out with the New York Jets? It was after the 2003 Grey Cup was it not? He must've been about 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 You've got to think being the "star QB" is pretty infatuating even if it is not the NFL. Very good salary, profile and probably the most security of any CFL position. Not many have succeeded in the "cross over" between leagues. Was Flutie the last QB to accomplish this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 You've got to think being the "star QB" is pretty infatuating even if it is not the NFL. Very good salary, profile and probably the most security of any CFL position. Not many have succeeded in the "cross over" between leagues. Was Flutie the last QB to accomplish this? well at the very least Garcia was after Flutie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 I'm thinking the total number of QB's that achieved this may be less than 5 in the last 20 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Let's not kid ourselves here, Burris doesn't get offered 375K if Willy is our first option. With that being said, I'm ecstatic that we got Willy who I now feel is the best QB that moved teams this off season. Willy and Burris were not available at the same time... If they are perhaps Burris is not offered 375K We traded for Willy and he never became a free agent. He was available the entire time. It really doesn't matter to me who they preferred because I'm happy with Willy, but if Willy is our number one target we most likely trade for him at the start of the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Let's not kid ourselves here, Burris doesn't get offered 375K if Willy is our first option. With that being said, I'm ecstatic that we got Willy who I now feel is the best QB that moved teams this off season. Willy and Burris were not available at the same time... If they are perhaps Burris is not offered 375K We traded for Willy and he never became a free agent. He was available the entire time. It really doesn't matter to me who they preferred because I'm happy with Willy, but if Willy is our number one target we most likely trade for him at the start of the off season. That wasn't even in the cards at the beginning of the off season. The bombers new brain trust had a lot of work to do in the off season, including the hiring of new staff. Part of their plan was having the staff identify needs and wants. It took time, maybe more time than necessary, but then again, we don't know that. They had a target of QBs that were identified, and acted accordingly. There are a couple of beliefs out there as to was targeted first. It doesn't matter now, of course, and fans can believe what they will.....but I gotta say, if the Bombers say they targeted Willy, who am I to argue that? blitzmore and Logan007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KptKrunch Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Let's not kid ourselves here, Burris doesn't get offered 375K if Willy is our first option. With that being said, I'm ecstatic that we got Willy who I now feel is the best QB that moved teams this off season. Willy and Burris were not available at the same time... If they are perhaps Burris is not offered 375K We traded for Willy and he never became a free agent. He was available the entire time. It really doesn't matter to me who they preferred because I'm happy with Willy, but if Willy is our number one target we most likely trade for him at the start of the off season. That wasn't even in the cards at the beginning of the off season. The bombers new brain trust had a lot of work to do in the off season, including the hiring of new staff. Part of their plan was having the staff identify needs and wants. It took time, maybe more time than necessary, but then again, we don't know that. They had a target of QBs that were identified, and acted accordingly. There are a couple of beliefs out there as to was targeted first. It doesn't matter now, of course, and fans can believe what they will.....but I gotta say, if the Bombers say they targeted Willy, who am I to argue that? Mr. Dee, lets step back ok? Stop being a 'fan' for second and look at it objectively. What do you think the bombers are going to say after they trade for and sign him. Do you, honestly now, do you actually think anyone in the organisation will stand up on a podium and say: "Well, we wanted Collaros but in talking to his agent we weren't getting a good vibe from him, then all of a sudden Burris is released and the next day he signed with them, so we thought 'great now we can get a veteran presence in here along the lines of "Corey Banks" is for defense for our offense' and as such we offered Burris a very attractive package but Burris spurned us to sign with an expansion team so the only option left was Willy so........" I mean really Mr. Dee? The Bombers are saying exactly what they are supposed to say. You can believe whatever you want, but then you should change your name to Mr. Ostrich because you have your head in the sand on this clearly. It was widely reported by reporters in Wpg, here in Edmonton, and on TSN, that the Bombers were very interested in Collaros. Yes, there was talk, especially early, about Willy too, and I remember some posters on our Bombers stating that (mr perfect) Willy should be the 'man' but the vast majority there, including me, wanted Collaros. The Bombers were waiting for Collaros to become an FA when all of a sudden Burris got cut, then Collaros got cut, and was subsequently signed immediately by the 'Cats. Now I will give you this is all hyperbole, and nothing substantiated but I recall an article somewhere that with Collaros now off the table the 'bombers' were targeting Burris. And on that, it's a FACT, not a made up thing, the Bombers offered Burris a very large contract for at least two years. Burris received a similar offer from Ottawa (in hind sight Montreal should have offered him something too lol) and in the end took Ottawa's offer. Then the talk was would the bombers pursue Kevin Glenn. I can't recall the exact timing but it was at least a week, if not longer, before the Bombers even traded for Willy's rights so you know that Walters and O'Shea were contemplating a move to get Glenn, and for all we know they made an offer to Ottawa, Ottawa said #1 pick and we couldn't do that. So we trade for and sign Willy, Bombers predictably say he was 'their first choice' all along, and you believe it. Well, I won't tell you what to believe, or what not to believe. I'm in BlueandGold's corner here all the way. I never wanted Burris either, and I always had a question about Willy, but I am a convert. I personally don't care if he wasn't a choice of Wpg's at all and the whole thing was an accident. I don't care - we got him and hopefully he'll be here for a very long time. From what I've seen of him so far in Blue and Gold is something we haven't had since (and I think it was TBurgess that said it first) Khari was in his prime here. I just hope he lasts longer than Khari did - shoulders are such a Beotch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Mr. Dee, You have a very long way way of basically telling me I was right in what I wrote all along. Logan007 and blitzmore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KptKrunch Posted June 28, 2014 Report Share Posted June 28, 2014 Mr. Dee, You have a very long way way of basically telling me I was right in what I wrote all along. lol - so you agree now he was the third choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jacquie Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Then the talk was would the bombers pursue Kevin Glenn. I can't recall the exact timing but it was at least a week, if not longer, before the Bombers even traded for Willy's rights so you know that Walters and O'Shea were contemplating a move to get Glenn, and for all we know they made an offer to Ottawa, Ottawa said #1 pick and we couldn't do that. So we trade for and sign Willy, Bombers predictably say he was 'their first choice' all along, and you believe it. Burris' signing was announced on February 2 and the trade and extension of Willy was announced on February 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Then the talk was would the bombers pursue Kevin Glenn. I can't recall the exact timing but it was at least a week, if not longer, before the Bombers even traded for Willy's rights so you know that Walters and O'Shea were contemplating a move to get Glenn, and for all we know they made an offer to Ottawa, Ottawa said #1 pick and we couldn't do that. So we trade for and sign Willy, Bombers predictably say he was 'their first choice' all along, and you believe it. Burris' signing was announced on February 2 and the trade and extension of Willy was announced on February 4. Proved wrong again. Ouch. I love how people skew facts in an effort to make themselves appear that they know what they are talking about. Minor correction though Jacquie, it was February 6. Most definitely not "at least a week, if not longer." http://www.bluebombers.com/article/blue-bomber-aquire-quarterback-drew-willy-from-riders-sign-him-to-extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KptKrunch Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Then the talk was would the bombers pursue Kevin Glenn. I can't recall the exact timing but it was at least a week, if not longer, before the Bombers even traded for Willy's rights so you know that Walters and O'Shea were contemplating a move to get Glenn, and for all we know they made an offer to Ottawa, Ottawa said #1 pick and we couldn't do that. So we trade for and sign Willy, Bombers predictably say he was 'their first choice' all along, and you believe it. Burris' signing was announced on February 2 and the trade and extension of Willy was announced on February 4. Proved wrong again. Ouch. I love how people skew facts in an effort to make themselves appear that they know what they are talking about. Minor correction though Jacquie, it was February 6. Most definitely not "at least a week, if not longer." http://www.bluebombers.com/article/blue-bomber-aquire-quarterback-drew-willy-from-riders-sign-him-to-extension nice - I thought it was a week, going by memory. 4 days, close but I'm still right either way no sense in arguing it as in where Willy was in the pecking order. To prove me wrong, show me that Willy was traded for BEFORE Collaros/Burris transactions, then we can talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Who gives a fack of he was the third choice. He is with us now and played great quit complaining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KptKrunch Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Who gives a fack of he was the third choice. He is with us now and played great quit complaining! agreed - i'm not complaining, never was. Mentioned he was the third choice and good on us, then all of a sudden OTHERS started 'complaining' he was our first choice according to the bombers. It's already proven via timelines Brandon, the order of things, and yes I don't care (as I've said many times) as we got the right one even if, as I said, he was a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlanticRiderFan Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Who gives a fack of he was the third choice. He is with us now and played great quit complaining! Yup. Willy was the right choice. There should be no regrets there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KptKrunch Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Not taking anything away from anyone, and there's still one more game to play, but so far after three games it's no contest for OPOTW - Willy in a landslide M.O.A.B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 As I said in the game day chat Willy has double the amount of TDs then Goltz had all of last year , tossed for more yards then him etc... Already the qbs are better then what we had last season. So even if Willy stinks it up its already better then last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Nice to see Buck up in the booth beside Marcel. If he's smart he will stick to assisting and not aspire to become a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Great advice. If only we were all content with not wanting to improve our careers we'd really be onto something... James, SPuDS and Mr Dee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Nice to see Buck up in the booth beside Marcel. If he's smart he will stick to assisting and not aspire to become a head coach. Why do you say this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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