Floyd Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Ed Tait ✔ @WFPEdTait Sources say the #Bombers are not interested in RB Jerome Messam, the CFL's top Canadian in 2011. Going import at the position. #bn Not impressed... Bombers are not in any position to decide import or non-import at a position, especially if Cotton is injured now. Maybe its just talk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Yeah that kind of makes me scratch my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Can't play special teams, can't block. If we gave Volny the number of carries the last couple years that Messam has got he'd have the same numbers. We should look at other top 2011 RB's like Cory Boyd. blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Can't play special teams, can't block. If we gave Volny the number of carries the last couple years that Messam has got he'd have the same numbers. We should look at other top 2011 RB's like Cory Boyd. I'll take my chances that a 6'3, 240 RB can block for Willy. And if you think Volny and Messam are comparable, well, then um... uh... Messam would have been our fifth leading receiver last year, ha - I don't think we're in any position to ignore an NI right now because we're going 'international' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Can't play special teams, can't block. If we gave Volny the number of carries the last couple years that Messam has got he'd have the same numbers. We should look at other top 2011 RB's like Cory Boyd. Cory Boyd can't block too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Let's trade for that Antolin guy from BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Can't play special teams, can't block. If we gave Volny the number of carries the last couple years that Messam has got he'd have the same numbers. We should look at other top 2011 RB's like Cory Boyd. Cory Boyd can't block too. I think that was his point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 We're a team that has a huge NI problem, why aren't we interested in Messam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 We're a team that has a huge NI problem, why aren't we interested in Messam? Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Jesse Lumsden come on down! If we are going to look at washed up NI RB's, why stop at Messam? I know Jesse took a bad knock on the head when he was tobogganing in Sochi but that shouldn't be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddman19 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 I am calling BS on the "no interest". Every other person we are linked to signs elsewhere, so maybe it is just a reverse psychology thing to keep the other teams thinking we aren't interested. Very sneaky Walters and O'Shea. Very sneaky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Messam in edmonton was behind a crowd of rbs and looked good in his limited time with Montreal. He must be a really bad blocker for the Blue to not be interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Well, Buono had no interest in Glenn... so fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKAChip Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Messam is actually really bad. What's the point of a NI RB who won't play offense and can't play anywhere else effectively. It's not like we can start this guy just because we've heard of him. blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Messam is actually really bad. What's the point of a NI RB who won't play offense and can't play anywhere else effectively. It's not like we can start this guy just because we've heard of him. Didn't realize that Messam refused to play offence. You may have a point there, I don't think he fits with Etch's system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Messam is actually really bad. What's the point of a NI RB who won't play offense and can't play anywhere else effectively. It's not like we can start this guy just because we've heard of him. What makes him really bad? I have not watched him play the last two seasons. His stats are decent enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKAChip Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Messam is actually really bad. What's the point of a NI RB who won't play offense and can't play anywhere else effectively. It's not like we can start this guy just because we've heard of him. Didn't realize that Messam refused to play offence. You may have a point there, I don't think he fits with Etch's system. He won't play offense because we are using an International who would be far more effective than him in that position. If we needed an NI RB it would be in the Volny mold who at least plays Special Teams or does other things than rushing the football somewhat effectively. I'm not convinced Messam can run the football effectively even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKAChip Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Messam is actually really bad. What's the point of a NI RB who won't play offense and can't play anywhere else effectively. It's not like we can start this guy just because we've heard of him. What makes him really bad? I have not watched him play the last two seasons. His stats are decent enough? He can't catch the football out of the backfield and he's purely a between the tackles runner which is fine, but since his big season in Edmonton a few years ago, he hasn't proven to be effective even at doing that. A 4.0 and 4.7 YPC average the last two seasons is abysmal for the CFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 300 yards receiving for Messam last year... not asking to replace Cotton or Ford - and who cares if Volny plays ST, he still can't hold onto the ball Messam will not be commanding top dollar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKAChip Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 But if you're not asking him to replace Cotton or Ford, what are you asking him to do? Be on the roster exclusively as a backup running back as a change of pace? Don't see it as necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 But if you're not asking him to replace Cotton or Ford, what are you asking him to do? Be on the roster exclusively as a backup running back as a change of pace? Don't see it as necessary. We have zero non-import depth. Sign Messam, simply to replace Volny - who is our defacto running back and used as a 'change of pace'. Messam provides at least a chance to win the starting spot... Volny does not. If Messam surprises, we have our 7th starter... what's the harm in looking? Maybe a $5000 signing bonus if that? Messam is not going to get $125k... maybe 80-90... bring him in. James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Messam can be the change of pace, big body, short yardage guy that can move the yardsticks. He'd also mean we wouldn't need to DI a change of pace RB so we could use that for another player. James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Messam can be the change of pace, big body, short yardage guy that can move the yardsticks. He'd also mean we wouldn't need to DI a change of pace RB so we could use that for another player. Thunder & Lighting version 2.0 = Messam & Cotton! Get er done Walters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKAChip Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 But if you're not asking him to replace Cotton or Ford, what are you asking him to do? Be on the roster exclusively as a backup running back as a change of pace? Don't see it as necessary. We have zero non-import depth. Sign Messam, simply to replace Volny - who is our defacto running back and used as a 'change of pace'. Messam provides at least a chance to win the starting spot... Volny does not. If Messam surprises, we have our 7th starter... what's the harm in looking? Maybe a $5000 signing bonus if that? Messam is not going to get $125k... maybe 80-90... bring him in. I think you are overrating Messam by saying he has a chance to win the starting spot. He is a significant downgrade from any International we could put in that spot, and by a large margin. I'm not saying Volny is better but he at the very least is more versatile. We would be essentially be dressing Messam to play perhaps four plays per game? And what use is a running back who hasn't averaged more than 4.7 YPC for over two years? And that was with the Montreal offensive line! blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 But if you're not asking him to replace Cotton or Ford, what are you asking him to do? Be on the roster exclusively as a backup running back as a change of pace? Don't see it as necessary. We have zero non-import depth. Sign Messam, simply to replace Volny - who is our defacto running back and used as a 'change of pace'. Messam provides at least a chance to win the starting spot... Volny does not. If Messam surprises, we have our 7th starter... what's the harm in looking? Maybe a $5000 signing bonus if that? Messam is not going to get $125k... maybe 80-90... bring him in. I think you are overrating Messam by saying he has a chance to win the starting spot. He is a significant downgrade from any International we could put in that spot, and by a large margin. I'm not saying Volny is better but he at the very least is more versatile. We would be essentially be dressing Messam to play perhaps four plays per game? And what use is a running back who hasn't averaged more than 4.7 YPC for over two years? And that was with the Montreal offensive line! Well, there aren't really any other NI options out there - unless you bring in Matt Burke, which I would as well... and secondly, how do you know Messam won't perform unless you give him a look? Alouettes offence was a mess last year. Messam still got 500+ yards in 13 games... about the same as Will Ford... One of the Bombers problems that last few years is that we pronounce 'nope we don't want him, he doesn't fit' and pass on a lot of quality players... If KW is concerned about injuries, fine but to say that 'we are going import' is the wrong path, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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