Per Madani...

His bio from Queens website:

Pat Tracey joined Queen?s in 2000 as Special Teams Coach and Recruiting Coordinator, and moved to his current post in 2001, becoming a full-time assistant to Coach Sheahan in 2008. Tracey is recognized nationally and internationally as a defensive specialist, and is the dean of current OUA defensive coordinators. In 2011, the Gaels defence did not concede a single rushing touchdown in the regular season. He enters the season with 105 career wins as a CIS defensive coordinator and the CIS leader with 14 career shut-out victories.

Tracey has mentored many exceptional defensive players during his time at Queen?s, including four CIS award winners, eight OUA award winners, 39 conference All-Stars and 16 CIS All-Canadians. The Gaels defence has lead the OUA in several categories under his guidance including number one ranking against the Run 5-times, Pass 2-times, Overall 5-times and Scoring 4-times). He has coached the East team in recent CIS East-West Bowl games, serving as DB coac in 2003, Defensive Coordinator in 2004, and Special Teams coordinator in 2005, 2007 and 2008. Tracey was the Special Teams Coach for Canada at the 2007 Global Football Championship, held during the week of Super Bowl XLI, which the Canadians won for the third straight year. In 2009, he guided the Gaels defence to a Vanier Cup championship, as they finished as the top defence within the OUA.

Tracey has also been deeply involved in coaching at the national level, as he was the Defensive Coordinator for the Eastern Ontario U-17 team at the Football Canada Cup, winning bronze medals in 2005, 2006 and 2007 and capturing a gold medal in 2009.

Prior to joining Queen?s, Tracey coached with the Guelph Gryphons from 1987-97 and 1999.

At Guelph, he held numerous positions including Defensive Backs and Return Units (1987-88), Inside Linebackers and Return Units (1989-90), Defensive Coordinator (1988-94), and Special Teams Coordinator (1996-97). He was the team?s recruiting coordinator from 1995 until leaving for Hamilton in early 1998. He coached in three Yates Cup finals with the Gryphons, winning two.

Tracey spent the 1998 season on a leave of absence from Guelph, and joined the Hamilton Tiger-Cats as Special Teams Coach, on a staff led by CFL legend Ron Lancaster. Hamilton advanced to the Grey Cup with his assistance, losing the championship on a heart-breaking, last-second field goal by the Calgary Stampeders.

Tracey started at defensive back from 1982 through 1986 with the Guelph Gryphons, winning the team?s most improved player award in 1982, and a Vanier Cup in 1984. He saw action as a punt returner, leading the team in 1983. In 1986, he was the football nominee for the Mitchell award as the Male Sportsman of the Year. Tracey was a team captain in 1986, and was named to the Gryphon Team of the Decade in 1989 at cornerback. He holds the school?s record for the longest fumble return (61 yards, set in 1983), and most games played in a career (51). Tracey is also ranked second in Guelph?s history for games started, with 49.

Tracey is a native of Foxboro, Ontario, and resides in Kingston with his wife Denise, and daughters Devon and Darby.

 

Burris in any capacity would make it a lot harder to cheer for this team so just say no to Burris. I think I can honestly say I would rather suffer through another season like last season than cheer for Burris.

Really you would rather have Boltus or Pierce at the helm???

Burris is a tool but he's light years better then anyone we have had since Glenn...

 

yeah I don't care how good he is, there is no single athlete that I despise more than Burris and I don't want him anywhere near this team. 

 

I don't know why people automatically assume that if Hamilton tries to pursue Collaros that they will get him and we won't. As with anything else it will likely come down to dollars and term. No reason to believe we can't make a better offer than Hamilton.

I'm starting to get a little nervous. Where would you rather go ...to a team that just went to the Grey Cup or the circus Winnipeg has become? Not just about dollars and term.

 

 

Really depends. Most quarterbacks probably think they're good enough to be a difference maker. I doubt they're as dependent on past history when it comes to making decisions.

 

Burris in any capacity would make it a lot harder to cheer for this team so just say no to Burris. I think I can honestly say I would rather suffer through another season like last season than cheer for Burris. 

Try sitting in the stands for a full season of games where the team is out of it after 1 quarter. This team needs to get competitive in a hurry. There was 0 entertainment value in those games last year. A total chore to go to.

 

This right here is the only reason I'm switching back to a pick ten rather than go to every game.  We were blown out at home way too many times last year.

Burris in any capacity would make it a lot harder to cheer for this team so just say no to Burris. I think I can honestly say I would rather suffer through another season like last season than cheer for Burris.

Try sitting in the stands for a full season of games where the team is out of it after 1 quarter. This team needs to get competitive in a hurry. There was 0 entertainment value in those games last year. A total chore to go to.

This right here is the only reason I'm switching back to a pick ten rather than go to every game. We were blown out at home way too many times last year.

I thought the Bombers stopped offering the pick 10.

 

Burris in any capacity would make it a lot harder to cheer for this team so just say no to Burris. I think I can honestly say I would rather suffer through another season like last season than cheer for Burris. 

Try sitting in the stands for a full season of games where the team is out of it after 1 quarter. This team needs to get competitive in a hurry. There was 0 entertainment value in those games last year. A total chore to go to.

 

I have lived in Alberta for 8 years and gone to a lot of the Bombers games out here, don't tell me how much it sucks sitting in the stands watching the team get killed, I know what it looks like and how ugly it is. 

I thought the Bombers stopped offering the pick 10.

That's right, I believe they stopped offering pick 10 in 2012, or maybe it was 2013.

Burris made a max salary of $300k last season. I expect the Bombers to offer a similar amount to Collaros, to go along with a massive signing bonus.

Burris made a max salary of $300k last season. I expect the Bombers to offer a similar amount to Collaros, to go along with a massive signing bonus.

 

Why on earth would we offer $300k to Collaros... to cripple the team?  Reilly signed for $150-200k base salary... no reason that Collaros should get more

 

Collaros did look good last year but that was with support of Milanovich, Brady and Maas - unless we create a support system like that (and improve the OL), any QB coming here will falter.

 

I wouldn't be against Burris signing here to groom our own prospect for the next two years...  

I don't care what they offer him as long as they get him. Its not the time to be cheap have to out bid anyone to get Collaros.

Burris made a max salary of $300k last season. I expect the Bombers to offer a similar amount to Collaros, to go along with a massive signing bonus.

 

$300k is proven top-5 QB money.  Not new guy taking on his first starting gig money - not here, Hamilton, Whitehorse, or wherever. 

 

I'd expect closer to $200-220k base, with incentives and a signing bonus; given there's more expected competition for Collaros than Reilly, and the new TV revenue deal.

 

 

Burris made a max salary of $300k last season. I expect the Bombers to offer a similar amount to Collaros, to go along with a massive signing bonus.

 

$300k is proven top-5 QB money.  Not new guy taking on his first starting gig money - not here, Hamilton, Whitehorse, or wherever. 

 

I'd expect closer to $200-220k base, with incentives and a signing bonus; given there's more expected competition for Collaros than Reilly, and the new TV revenue deal.

 

 

Burris made a max salary of $300k last season. I expect the Bombers to offer a similar amount to Collaros, to go along with a massive signing bonus.

 

Why on earth would we offer $300k to Collaros... to cripple the team?  Reilly signed for $150-200k base salary... no reason that Collaros should get more

 

Collaros did look good last year but that was with support of Milanovich, Brady and Maas - unless we create a support system like that (and improve the OL), any QB coming here will falter.

 

I wouldn't be against Burris signing here to groom our own prospect for the next two years...  

 

 

He said it was Burris' max salary, not base. 

 

IIRC both Elliott and Brink had base salaries around $150,000 that could max out to the $300,000 range. Offering the same type of deal to Collaros wouldn't break the bank.

He said it was Burris' max salary, not base. 

 

IIRC both Elliott and Brink had base salaries around $150,000 that could max out to the $300,000 range. Offering the same type of deal to Collaros wouldn't break the bank.

 

 

A $150k base also wouldn't be terribly tantalizing to woo Collaros, if competition for his services are expected.

 

Here Zach, come to Winnipeg on the same contract 2 of our failed backups made.  We haven't won a GC since '90, and have made the playoffs once in the last 5 years.  We want you, and this offer shows it!!

 

Valuable assets command market prices.  If there's one thing I'm okay with paying market value or slightly over for, it's for a potential franchise QB. 

Sorry 'base' salary was a mistake... should have read 150-250k salary... as in, Mike Reilly signed for something like 70k base, 70k signing bonus and then incentives

 

Burris is more likely $200k guaranteed and bonuses...

 

$300k is fine if we win the grey cup and he's the CFL MOP...  

Collaros might get offered $125k as a 'base' salary - similar to Jyles...  that's probably the upper limit

 

Regardless, we need a QB coach, an OL coach in place and some indication that our OL talent will improve before we can compete for a free agent QB...

Yeah because Edmonton had the dominate oline when Riley signed with them. Collaros is looking for a opportunity to be the guy. Winnipeg is his best chance to do that with.

Yeah because Edmonton had the dominate oline when Riley signed with them. Collaros is looking for a opportunity to be the guy. Winnipeg is his best chance to do that with.

 

Look what happened to Reilly...  plus his choices were Edm or Wpg - Collaros choice is seemingly Ham or Wpg

Does anyone else get the sense that Walters or O'Shea have already spoken to Collaros and a deal is done? Walters seems quite confident that there is no need to give up even a late round draft pick for early rights to talk to Collaros. If there was any doubt, considering how much we need Collaros, you'd think Walters would give up a 6th round draft pick for early rights to Collaros.

Yeah because Edmonton had the dominate oline when Riley signed with them. Collaros is looking for a opportunity to be the guy. Winnipeg is his best chance to do that with.

 

If Burris is on the outs in Hamilton, he's just as likely to be "the guy" there as in Winnipeg. 

Why would a deal be done with anyone when he has failed to exhaust all opportunities or possibilities in any league? That makes no sense.

Does anyone else get the sense that Walters or O'Shea have already spoken to Collaros and a deal is done? Walters seems quite confident that there is no need to give up even a late round draft pick for early rights to talk to Collaros. If there was any doubt, considering how much we need Collaros, you'd think Walters would give up a 6th round draft pick for early rights to Collaros.

 

I thought Walters had hedged his bets by saying we'd be looking at Drew Willy as well?

 

Still, I think some team will cough up a draft pick to talk to Collaros

Does anyone else get the sense that Walters or O'Shea have already spoken to Collaros and a deal is done? Walters seems quite confident that there is no need to give up even a late round draft pick for early rights to talk to Collaros. If there was any doubt, considering how much we need Collaros, you'd think Walters would give up a 6th round draft pick for early rights to Collaros.

I thought Walters had hedged his bets by saying we'd be looking at Drew Willy as well?

Still, I think some team will cough up a draft pick to talk to Collaros

When did Walters say we'd be looking at Drew Willy?

Yeah because Edmonton had the dominate oline when Riley signed with them. Collaros is looking for a opportunity to be the guy. Winnipeg is his best chance to do that with.

Look what happened to Reilly... plus his choices were Edm or Wpg - Collaros choice is seemingly Ham or Wpg

He had more choices than Winnipeg and Edmonton - there were a number of other teams interested in him. Plus he had made his mind up on Edmonton.

Ottawa could also be interested in Collaros. Would not be hard for them to sign him and have Kevin Glenn backup or even trade Glenn to Winnipeg.

Does anyone else get the sense that Walters or O'Shea have already spoken to Collaros and a deal is done? Walters seems quite confident that there is no need to give up even a late round draft pick for early rights to talk to Collaros. If there was any doubt, considering how much we need Collaros, you'd think Walters would give up a 6th round draft pick for early rights to Collaros.

I thought Walters had hedged his bets by saying we'd be looking at Drew Willy as well?

Still, I think some team will cough up a draft pick to talk to Collaros

When did Walters say we'd be looking at Drew Willy?

Walters hasn't because that would be tampering.

Does anyone else get the sense that Walters or O'Shea have already spoken to Collaros and a deal is done? Walters seems quite confident that there is no need to give up even a late round draft pick for early rights to talk to Collaros. If there was any doubt, considering how much we need Collaros, you'd think Walters would give up a 6th round draft pick for early rights to Collaros.

I thought Walters had hedged his bets by saying we'd be looking at Drew Willy as well?

Still, I think some team will cough up a draft pick to talk to Collaros

When did Walters say we'd be looking at Drew Willy?

Walters hasn't because that would be tampering.

Exactly my point.