iso_55 Posted June 4, 2013 Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 I get it... I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 CBA has changed since the days of Dieter Brock. I can't see a daily fine being allowed but I didn't check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 CBA has changed since the days of Dieter Brock. I can't see a daily fine being allowed but I didn't check. So, what your're saying is without even looking at the CBA that there'd be a provision in it where they lay out what teams can & can't do when a player breaches his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 So, what your're saying is without even looking at the CBA that there'd be a provision in it where they lay out what teams can & can't do when a player breaches his contract?I know the CBA only allows teams to fine players for specific infractions which, upon looking would seem to include sitting out. I also know the maximum fine a team can levy is $75. I suspect the CFLPA would argue that a player sitting out would constitute one breach, not a separate breach for each day.Also there's nothing stopping Williams from retiring for the season. If he did he would still be a free agent at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 So, what your're saying is without even looking at the CBA that there'd be a provision in it where they lay out what teams can & can't do when a player breaches his contract? that's just it though... unless he tries to play somewhere else, he ain't breaking his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Chris Williams has found out the hard way that CFL contracts are not as easy to return as kicks are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Any more news out of Hamilton regarding Williams' status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Any more news out of Hamilton regarding Williams' status?He was suspended when he didn't report and nothing's changed. Ticats haven't heard from Williams or his agent since the ruling was made.http://scratchingpost.thespec.com/2013/06/austin-on-williams-nothings-changed.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Chris Williams: How To Win Friends & Influence People. And 30-50% of the agents aren't registerd with the CFL& CFLPA? Like, why are players dealing wth so many unregistered agents. This is a joke, people. If these people aren't certified they have no business negotiating contracts for their clients. Why does the CFL always have to give itself a self imposed black eye before it does something?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 The Hamilton Spectator's Drew Edwards & Steve Milton outline how the Chris Williams contract arbitration could have long lasting & serious effects for all CFL teams. Link: http://scratchingpost.thespec.com/2013/06/milton-williams-case-raises-important-issues-for-ticats-and-the-cfl.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Affair was a charade from the start. A lot of this poor Chris Wms . as victim "the system is broken" reaction was laughable. He and his agent rolled the dice, like the indicted turning down a plea and taking chances with a jury, and they lost. Move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 So, the problem now is... up to 50% of the players were represented by agents not certified by the CFL/CFLPA. Technically, that is a breach of the collective bargaining agreement meaning players could walk if they want out of their contracts early. How stupid is/ was the CFL for allowing this to happen??? Sometimes the CFL looks & acts like such a bush league. Shooting itself in the foot time & time again. The arbitrator may have ruled saying that Williams contract was still valid but next time, an arbitrator may rule the other way... Slippery slope we're on right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 No, Captain Morgan actually. The Drink of champions. what man drinks spiced rum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 what man drinks spiced rum? Rye, a craft beer, or death...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 what man drinks spiced rum? *raises hand* The Kraken and Sailor Jerry.. If you call them sissy drinks, your not trying hard enough apparently.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dascow Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 I kind of understand where Williams is coming from. There are lots of things that could go wrong for him in an 18 game season. Is it worth the risk of ruining his dream of playing in the NFL for the salary he is getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Rye, a craft beer, or death...... Tried scotch? Much smoother, more flavored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Tried scotch? Much smoother, more flavored. Blech. Scotch is turpentine in a nice bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 I kind of understand where Williams is coming from. There are lots of things that could go wrong for him in an 18 game season. Is it worth the risk of ruining his dream of playing in the NFL for the salary he is getting? regardless, he should have considered this when he signed and agreed to his contract.. hes being a punk, plain and simple. I'd say the same thing if it was Henoc Muamba or Milt Stegall doing this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 I kind of understand where Williams is coming from. There are lots of things that could go wrong for him in an 18 game season. Is it worth the risk of ruining his dream of playing in the NFL for the salary he is getting? yup. the only person he's obligated to look out for is himself. he has one shot in his life to play for hundreds of thousands or maybe even millions. sucks that he likely won't trust them enough to sign a new 1+1 with a "gentleman's agreement" to release him. Hamilton misplayed this situation, imo. the new GM coming in (Austin) could have played "good cop" and offered him Chad Owens type money and promised a release (if he still wanted one) after one season... but instead he circled the wagons and dug in. iron fist is fine... but you should wear a velvet glove over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 Rye, a craft beer, or death...... This . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 yup. the only person he's obligated to look out for is himself. he has one shot in his life to play for hundreds of thousands or maybe even millions. sucks that he likely won't trust them enough to sign a new 1+1 with a "gentleman's agreement" to release him. Hamilton misplayed this situation, imo. the new GM coming in (Austin) could have played "good cop" and offered him Chad Owens type money and promised a release (if he still wanted one) after one season... but instead he circled the wagons and dug in. iron fist is fine... but you should wear a velvet glove over it. Have offered him more money, more CFL money isnt what he's after, he wants out. Cant play the nice cop when he doesnt want to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 yup. the only person he's obligated to look out for is himself. he has one shot in his life to play for hundreds of thousands or maybe even millions. sucks that he likely won't trust them enough to sign a new 1+1 with a "gentleman's agreement" to release him. Hamilton misplayed this situation, imo. the new GM coming in (Austin) could have played "good cop" and offered him Chad Owens type money and promised a release (if he still wanted one) after one season... but instead he circled the wagons and dug in. iron fist is fine... but you should wear a velvet glove over it. Have offered him more money, more CFL money isnt what he's after, he wants out. Cant play the nice cop when he doesnt want to be here. i don't think "nice cop" was ever put on the table in the first place. but i wasn't in the room or on the conference call so we'll never know. all i know is that closers close. and Austin didn't close his deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 i don't think "nice cop" was ever put on the table in the first place. but i wasn't in the room or on the conference call so we'll never know. all i know is that closers close. and Austin didn't close his deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted June 6, 2013 Report Share Posted June 6, 2013 i don't think "nice cop" was ever put on the table in the first place. but i wasn't in the room or on the conference call so we'll never know. all i know is that closers close. and Austin didn't close his deal. Hard to say but this has been ongoing since at least the end of last season and not since CW's tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now