wbbfan Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Noeller said: Everything I remember reading is that Vibert is a "natural" C... Or, at least, that's what he'd played in college. I was hoping he was the guy next year but not sure how polished he is...?? Not really a natural centre, but proficient enough at C that it doesn’t matter imo. He could easily be a starter in this league sooner rather than later at either g spot or c. 5 hours ago, 17to85 said: At guard... he's never got much chance at centre where our actual centee being a matador would be an improvement. Kolankowski spends most of the game wandering around like he's lost. I’d add, no guard has looked terribly great next to kola. Eli has excelled in heavy sets on the edge including in pass pro and inside. I have no question that eli, and any ar ni C in the league would be an upgrade over kola. he’s that bad. It is very hard to properly identify how good an ol is/can be when next to a turn style. The insertion of bond at G and hardrick kicking out to rt took us from a team giving up among the most hits/pressures/sacks to the best ol in the league. Id sure like to see how wallace, neuf, eli, vibert and/or vanterpool play with out kola giving up instant disruption and pressure as fast as the qb gets the ball. I mean the Ts will play better too. Rando and vanterpool are serious contenders for all kinds of awards if c is fixed. Booch, Piggy 1 and Tracker 3
johnzo Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago I am not qualified to judge OL issues, but it sure seemed to me last year that Brady was getting the holes he needed at the point of attack and that we were getting OL into the second level often enough. The ugly OL moments happened in pass pro, Zach dropping back against teams rushing 3-4 -- sometimes Zach wouldn't even get a steamboat before he had to start scrambling, he'd have a DT in his lap or an DE coming round the horn. Which makes me hopeful that if we get pass pro sorted out, Zach will return to form.
17to85 Posted 35 minutes ago Report Posted 35 minutes ago The rare times kolankowski actually got a block at the point of attack Oliveira would inevitably have a huge gain. Simply put our centre sucks and bringing the heavy sets we used a ton of don't mean **** when the middle guy is beat so badly so often by 1 guy.
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