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Is this ever a guy we should take a run at? I really like Pokey as a receiver but not sure he's a 1A Superstar guy... Would you ever take a run at Hatcher as your #1 and then have Pokey and Demski as 2/3?

 

 

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Would love to see Justin Hardy here.  Dude is a legit #1, makes plays all over the field, has had three straight 1000 yard years. 

His 2023 season had Terrance Edwards energy ... he hit 1k with rookie Dustin Crum, bad Nick Arbuckle, brokedown Jeremiah Masoli and Tyree Adams as his QBs.

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14 hours ago, Booch said:

Right price..id like to see Hatcher here...him and Pokey as your main imports..be nice..2 different style big play guys

Not sure what the right price would be..sounds like it would take 225-275 to get him as he wants to be paid as a top reciever,

but if BC goes after Olivera it could be interesting

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10 hours ago, Pete said:

tn sure what the right price would be..sounds like it would take 225-275 to get him as he wants to be paid as a top reciever,

but if BC goes after Olivera it could be interesting

yeah....under 300....but between 250....285....for a legit #1....guys who does all the stuff...gritty work...deep stuff...leads by example....sign me up and thats a fair price

If BO goes and chaes the cash...then it's an easy swap, and you can replace him with entry level import cash...no brainer

Heck if you are able to put a legit receiver group out there...roll with Peterson/MCI combo for the start of the yr and its sms friendly....If they getting it done....bonus...if not then flip to an import...Import RB prob one the easiest to find and integrate ...there is no shortage down, south if you are actually looking for a bell cow type....hence why our rigid ratio idealogy needs to be more fluid.... 

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"Easy swap"..."Hey Hatcher, come play with a old mostly broken down QB who will throw you some suicide balls, oh yeah we don't have a real OC" or "Hey Hatcher, come play with a young superstar in the making, reigning MOP under a OC that loves to go deep"

I also don't see why BO would play under Buck again....but maybe there's something there I don't know.

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1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:

"Easy swap"..."Hey Hatcher, come play with a old mostly broken down QB who will throw you some suicide balls, oh yeah we don't have a real OC" or "Hey Hatcher, come play with a young superstar in the making, reigning MOP under a OC that loves to go deep"

I also don't see why BO would play under Buck again....but maybe there's something there I don't know.

money talks....that being said...If we make the suicidal announcement Oc Guy is back...dont expect any legit top receivers coming her, and likely BO walks too...

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27 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Hatcher here would be fantastic. Hardy too.

If Coxie is a FA again...not sure if he just signed a 1 yr deal last yr..I'd be all over that too...Not sure why we didnt last yr

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1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:

"Easy swap"..."Hey Hatcher, come play with a old mostly broken down QB who will throw you some suicide balls, oh yeah we don't have a real OC" or "Hey Hatcher, come play with a young superstar in the making, reigning MOP under a OC that loves to go deep"

I also don't see why BO would play under Buck again....but maybe there's something there I don't know.

I mean, kinda what kenny did leaving here lol. 

 

Hardy is about to turn 34, is under 6' and under 200. He's super underappreciated, like Johnzo said all he does is suceed even with pretty bad qbs/offences. I feel like he should offer the best value for next year. I don't see him getting 250, but I could see him leading the league next year on the right team. 

6 minutes ago, Booch said:

If Coxie is a FA again...not sure if he just signed a 1 yr deal last yr..I'd be all over that too...Not sure why we didnt last yr

If it wasn't for his injury, Coxie would be ready for a massive lawler type deal. Idk if he is FA or not, but I would love to get that dude too. 

I would not want to give Hatcher lawler-type money. I don't think what he did is sustainable in any other situation. He's a real good imp wr, an excellent option for most teams as a no2. 

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2 hours ago, Booch said:

yeah....under 300....but between 250....285....for a legit #1....guys who does all the stuff...gritty work...deep stuff...leads by example....sign me up and thats a fair price

If BO goes and chaes the cash...then it's an easy swap, and you can replace him with entry level import cash...no brainer

Heck if you are able to put a legit receiver group out there...roll with Peterson/MCI combo for the start of the yr and its sms friendly....If they getting it done....bonus...if not then flip to an import...Import RB prob one the easiest to find and integrate ...there is no shortage down, south if you are actually looking for a bell cow type....hence why our rigid ratio idealogy needs to be more fluid.... 

As you say, replacing Oliviera with an import back ought to be easy, but we have not had much success finding dominant import running backs. If we have a dominant set of receivers, then ahaving a decent, if not all-star RB is not ctiical, IMO. He would just have to be good enough to rack up 4-5 yards from time to time to keep the Linebackers honest.

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10 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Thanks. Looks like hes at 175k and can reach 195k, but I don't think he reached most of it last year. Really good value. 

1 minute ago, Tracker said:

As you say, replacing Oliviera with an import back ought to be easy, but we have not had much success finding dominant import running backs. If we have a dominant set of receivers, then ahaving a decent, if not all-star RB is not ctiical, IMO. He would just have to be good enough to rack up 4-5 yards from time to time to keep the Linebackers honest.

We haven't tried or started an imp in ages. We've had some guys who flashed in TC/Camp, but we haven't tried to shift to an imp back for a long time. Cooley got all of 10 carries over the course of his 3 games. With good results as well. I could see us bringing him back for next camp. 

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2 minutes ago, Tracker said:

As you say, replacing Oliviera with an import back ought to be easy, but we have not had much success finding dominant import running backs. If we have a dominant set of receivers, then ahaving a decent, if not all-star RB is not ctiical, IMO. He would just have to be good enough to rack up 4-5 yards from time to time to keep the Linebackers honest.

I dont think we really even have looked since Harris was here, and when we did bring guys in...they never really got a chance, and were never gonna....So there's that aspect....RB is easiest to find probably of any position up here....if you seriously want to find one...next to DE....But when you are rigid in your ratio, and favour vets...well then you dont usually see the talent...and even when you do...good luck getting any traction...well here anyway

16 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I mean, kinda what kenny did leaving here lol. 

 

Hardy is about to turn 34, is under 6' and under 200. He's super underappreciated, like Johnzo said all he does is suceed even with pretty bad qbs/offences. I feel like he should offer the best value for next year. I don't see him getting 250, but I could see him leading the league next year on the right team. 

If it wasn't for his injury, Coxie would be ready for a massive lawler type deal. Idk if he is FA or not, but I would love to get that dude too. 

I would not want to give Hatcher lawler-type money. I don't think what he did is sustainable in any other situation. He's a real good imp wr, an excellent option for most teams as a no2. 

Yeah He got a few fluke injuries...so based on that is a bargain really...And seeing as he was extended into 2026 thats good value for T.O

He would have been the perfect lawler replacement here....great downfield contested catch guy....bug play....and would have been ideal for a lot of the flutterbug passes ZC was tossing up

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25 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I mean, kinda what kenny did leaving here lol. 

Not really...Bo had just come off a huge year. And he wasn't leaving an up and coming superstar QB with a team on the rise.

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