It really says something that nobody has bothered with the GDT today. 

Just win baby, **** all the other noise. 

5 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

The Riders mostly scored because of turnovers that happened in scoring range. You can't expect a D to do more than hold them to field goals, when that happens. 

Bottom line: a QB who can't trust his protection, is not going to do well protecting the football. 

Yeah but I don't think you're winning a Grey Cup with a D that hardly makes any plays at or behind the line of scrimmage or comes up with those big turnovers themselves.

This team could be a 11-12 win team with a tremendous offense and this D.  Would struggle to beat other top teams.  But with a sputtering offense probably a 8-9 win team.

If Zach didn’t get hurt we win. He was doing enough. 

2 minutes ago, Subzero said:

If Zach didn’t get hurt we win. He was doing enough. 

Throwing ints that lead to points? 9 points for the riders off Zach ints....

3 minutes ago, Subzero said:

If Zach didn’t get hurt we win. He was doing enough. 

Momentum died once he went out

Just now, Nolby said:

Momentum died once he went out

Momentum died when he gifted the riders 3 points to end the half.

1 minute ago, Nolby said:

Momentum died once he went out

The last, faint hope died when he went out. Momentum was pretty iffy already at that point.

8 minutes ago, Subzero said:

If Zach didn’t get hurt we win. He was doing enough. 

Definitely agree with this. And if Serge doesn't have an off night...  It's tough, but it is what it is. Move on to next week.

It just astounds me that people can watch collaros throw ints that cost the team 2 scores, and momentum and turn around and blame the backup qb.

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

It just astounds me that people can watch collaros throw ints that cost the team 2 scores, and momentum and turn around and blame the backup qb.

For me it's mostly because I'm not 100% certain the INTs are his fault. Could be Pokey. *Could*.

Just now, Noeller said:

For me it's mostly because I'm not 100% certain the INTs are his fault. Could be Pokey. *Could*.

Ok so what the **** is Pokey supposed to do different? He's got multiple guys on him.and the ball is thrown to him and not ahead of him. I know you're a collaros apologist, but they weren't a receiver doing something wrong, they were balls they dbs had a chance at. The one before half especially shouldn't have been thrown. Situational awareness dictates a turnover is the worst case Ontario. 

And further to that.... collaros has thrown those exact same interceptions a million times this season. He's forcing plays without having the ability to put those balls where only the receiver can catch it. It's not a new thing

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Fox lived on injured list here and BC.  Woods and Adams had a spot between them in 2024.  Lawson blew his knee out in camp.

Lawson is a good player.  None of these guys are difference makers.  Where are our American star players?  We have camps full of duds 3 years straight.

He picked up a fumble so everyone saw his nameplate.

So, even though the Americans are bad as you say we replace them with a Canadian who is worse. 

22 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Yeah but I don't think you're winning a Grey Cup with a D that hardly makes any plays at or behind the line of scrimmage or comes up with those big turnovers themselves.

This team could be a 11-12 win team with a tremendous offense and this D.  Would struggle to beat other top teams.  But with a sputtering offense probably a 8-9 win team.

No, a Grey Cup is not even in conversation. But they are not the reason for the last 2 losses. The biggest reason is the OL, as you've been saying for weeks. There are changes that could be made there...

You know what the most damping thing about the roster usage is? Corcoran gets WAY more playing time on offense than either of the linebackers we picked high get on defense. So why the **** didn't we take Corcoran first? 

Seems to me the simple solution is play your best Canadians first and fill in other pieces around them i don't believe for a second that we do that. 

2 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

So, even though the Americans are bad as you say we replace them with a Canadian who is worse. 

Ok now analyze the other 20 spots on the field where we lose every week.

Just now, 17to85 said:

You know what the most damping thing about the roster usage is? Corcoran gets WAY more playing time on offense than either of the linebackers we picked high get on defense. So why the **** didn't we take Corcoran first? 

Seems to me the simple solution is play your best Canadians first and fill in other pieces around them i don't believe for a second that we do that. 

Well you don't build a roster from scratch every year.  But they should turn the WIL spot into a Canadian one because it's not like the Americans they are using there are making any plays.

3 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Ok so what the **** is Pokey supposed to do different? He's got multiple guys on him.and the ball is thrown to him and not ahead of him. I know you're a collaros apologist, but they weren't a receiver doing something wrong, they were balls they dbs had a chance at. The one before half especially shouldn't have been thrown. Situational awareness dictates a turnover is the worst case Ontario. 

And further to that.... collaros has thrown those exact same interceptions a million times this season. He's forcing plays without having the ability to put those balls where only the receiver can catch it. It's not a new thing

We should have kep the ball on the ground. Just feed Brady. If we don't get a first down we punt it away so the Riders have a long field to work with. That was a Hogan call. It was dumb. Hogan had already gave up on the running game. 

2 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

 

Well you don't build a roster from scratch every year.  But they should turn the WIL spot into a Canadian one because it's not like the Americans they are using there are making any plays.

I see no reason not to work our high draft picks in considering some of the useless NIs that get dressed.

So you lose guys like Wilson or Jones at LB, boo hoo.

Just now, 17to85 said:

I see no reason not to work our high draft picks in considering some of the useless NIs that get dressed.

So you lose guys like Wilson or Jones at LB, boo hoo.

They were running right at Woodbey and Vaughters today.  Not even sure either made a tackle.  That's all LB's are out there to do vs the run.  Flow to the ball, make a play.

If I'm Collaros I would seriously ponder retirement, sure he can still play but at what cost for the future.

One bad week away from being tied for last in the West.

22 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

It just astounds me that people can watch collaros throw ints that cost the team 2 scores, and momentum and turn around and blame the backup qb.

Collaros wasnt playing great but at least he was able to run some plays inside the SSK 45 yard line.

Looking at the play by play in the second half the offense had a 0 yard run by Brady at the 40 and Streveler threw a pick scrimmaging from the 43.

4 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

One bad week away from being tied for last in the West.

I mean if Collaros is down I'd be surprised if they win more than 1 more game.

We don't get to play BC or Toronto again.  Just Ottawa once.  Montreal at home when we might already be out of it.

27 minutes ago, Noeller said:

For me it's mostly because I'm not 100% certain the INTs are his fault. Could be Pokey. *Could*.

What in the world

Good or bad Zach always gives us the best chance to win, especially if the game is close. As soon as he went out the riders stacked the line and strev is not good enough to hit the deep ball.

2 minutes ago, Subzero said:

Good or bad Zach always gives us the best chance to win, especially if the game is close. As soon as he went out the riders stacked the line and strev is not good enough to hit the deep ball.

Collaros hitting many deep balls today?

Maybe not deep deep but he had a few good ones today

I also think we win the Calgary at home if he doesn’t get hurt