Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

[Tracker]

3 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I think it was a deep shot to the endzone just out of the reach of the receiver but for the brief moment he was in while they were reattaching Zach's finger, I just remembering thinking great arm seems to have some poise we may have something here then never saw him again. 

But I and others are told we need to stop talking cuz they know because of the Oline because of their ability to peer into the crystal ball that TW and JD would have done nothing. What we do know as a fact is what happened keeping a QB who couldn't grip the ball properly and this discussion is relevant for 2026 cuz of our Coaching staff's reluctance to use their 2nd qb if the first one is consistently struggling. I think it's worthy discussion in what's the best way we use our dressed qb's for games.

I think the backup QB issue usage has been beaten to death in other threads, and us flapping our gums will have zero effect on O'Shea.

[HardCoreBlue]

13 hours ago, Tracker said:

I think the backup QB issue usage has been beaten to death in other threads, and us flapping our gums will have zero effect on O'Shea.

Then I guess we should shut down this whole site because that could be said for the multiple issues brought up here consistently. I think most of realize the intent is not to sway MOS and company (not like we’re talking to them directly) but to escape, vent, cheer, debate and have some fun.

[GCn20]

On 2025-11-22 at 4:24 PM, Tracker said:

No viable option? Terry Wilson might have been able to save  the game, but we will never no and O'Shea made sure of that. He will do so again, given an opportinity.

Terry Wilson did play and stunk it up.

[GCn20]

The lengths some people will go to here to criticize our coach. Dolegala and Wilson are crap QBs. I am glad we let go of Dolegala last year and I am pretty sure Wilson is going to meet the same fate. But yea....they would have come from behind and beaten the Argos defence. SMH.

We can debate till the cows come home whether ZC should have gone back out, what is not debatable is the notion that any other of our rostered QBs would have led us to victory. ZERO CHANCE. The only players that could have won that game for us were on the D and STs. Perhaps BO going beast mode....those were our only chance at victory. Who we played at QB was irrelevant once ZC was injured.

I mean honest to god, I don't know how anyone who watches football could think that JD was remotely capable of winning that game for us? Some people see what they wanna see so that they can complain I guess? 

Edited yesterday at 10:13 PM by GCn20

[Goalie]

21 hours ago, Tracker said:

I think the backup QB issue usage has been beaten to death in other threads, and us flapping our gums will have zero effect on O'Shea.

If O’Shea is listening to a fan site or anybody on it he should be fired yesterday. He’s not tho cuz who the **** would. As if anyone even thinks they listen and oh hey that dude online who always complains said this, oh really well then. Like honestly. Are you delusional dude. 

Edited yesterday at 10:13 PM by Goalie

[Bigblue204]

3 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

The lengths some people will go to here to criticize our coach. Dolegala and Wilson are crap QBs. I am glad we let go of Dolegala last year and I am pretty sure Wilson is going to meet the same fate. But yea....they would have come from behind and beaten the Argos defence. SMH.

We can debate till the cows come home whether ZC should have gone back out, what is not debatable is the notion that any other of our rostered QBs would have led us to victory. ZERO CHANCE. The only players that could have won that game for us were on the D and STs. Perhaps BO going beast mode....those were our only chance at victory. Who we played at QB was irrelevant once ZC was injured.

You need to go watch the 4th Q again. Wilson didn't play like garbage. 2 of his 4 passes were flat out dropped. 1 was called PI. The bombers were very much in that game when he came in and the coaching staff (buck) decided to put it all on his arm instead of give the ball to Brady...even one time.... Acting like there can be no debate is ridiculous. The game got out of hand BECAUSE OF COLLAROS. Now there's something that can not be debated because it actually happened that way.

[GCn20]

2 minutes ago, Goalie said:

If O’Shea is listening to a fan site or anybody on it he should be fired yesterday. He’s not tho cuz who the **** would. As if anyone even thinks they listen and oh hey that dude online who always complains said this, oh really well then. Like honestly. Are you delusional dude. 

Mike Oshea is a better coach and has forgotten more about football than any of us on this forum. I can't believe the huberus some people have here to think they are smarter than a coach who is going to go down as one of the greatest Bomber coaches ever. We sit and bang our gums, but not a single of us knows the whole picture and are privy to all the info. What we consider a terrible decision sometimes is actually the right move because the coach actually has all the info that we will never be privy too.

It seems remarkably stupid to me that we sit around and pretend we know the inner workings of the club better than our HC.

1 minute ago, Bigblue204 said:

You need to go watch the 4th Q again. Wilson didn't play like garbage. 2 of his 4 passes were flat out dropped. 1 was called PI. The bombers were very much in that game when he came in and the coaching staff (buck) decided to put it all on his arm instead of give the ball to Brady...even one time.... Acting like there can be no debate is ridiculous. The game got out of hand BECAUSE OF COLLAROS. Now there's something that can not be debated because it actually happened that way.

Wilson completed zero passes. ZERO. Don't care why. Doesn't matter. Didn't complete a ball. Every QB who plays like **** can point to a receiver dropping a ball or how close the pass was to being complete. Zero completions is zero completions. He couldn't get it done and it is wholly unrealistic for anyone to believe he could have, or JD for that matter. The Argo defence was eating our QBs for breakfast.

[HardCoreBlue]

29 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

The lengths some people will go to here to criticize our coach. Dolegala and Wilson are crap QBs. I am glad we let go of Dolegala last year and I am pretty sure Wilson is going to meet the same fate. But yea....they would have come from behind and beaten the Argos defence. SMH.

We can debate till the cows come home whether ZC should have gone back out, what is not debatable is the notion that any other of our rostered QBs would have led us to victory. ZERO CHANCE. The only players that could have won that game for us were on the D and STs. Perhaps BO going beast mode....those were our only chance at victory. Who we played at QB was irrelevant once ZC was injured.

I mean honest to god, I don't know how anyone who watches football could think that JD was remotely capable of winning that game for us? Some people see what they wanna see so that they can complain I guess? 

Good gracious and good grief, I love how you go to great lengths to wrap your perspectives as facts.

And if BB coaches/management shared this perspective of yours going into the big game where everything is on the line and nothing legal can be off the table to ensure we win cuz there is no tomorrow, someone should lose their job.

[SpeedFlex27]

28 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Mike Oshea is a better coach and has forgotten more about football than any of us on this forum. I can't believe the huberus some people have here to think they are smarter than a coach who is going to go down as one of the greatest Bomber coaches ever. We sit and bang our gums, but not a single of us knows the whole picture and are privy to all the info. What we consider a terrible decision sometimes is actually the right move because the coach actually has all the info that we will never be privy too.

It seems remarkably stupid to me that we sit around and pretend we know the inner workings of the club better than our HC.

 

Jeff Reinbold knew more about football than any of us. So did Tim Burke. Then there's Jim Daley... better known as The White Zombie. Bob Dyce as well. Craig Dickenson, too. You never mentioned them. They all knew more than us... maybe. 

[Booch]

Fact of matter...if you have a healthy option available...and they on your roster...obviously for a reason...right? Then not playing them over a guy who can't physically do it...or guys based on history here...and they are major factors in why you lost...repeatedly...then there is a serious issue with the man calling the shots...and its all on the....aka...HC

And if the guys behind the hurt starters are not good enough...coached up enough...trusted enough...then wtf are they here??!!?!? 

Again...all on the guy we call the HC

And if the same ol same ol buffoonery occurs yet again...then he becomes HC Guy for 2026

This apparent search for OC is encouraging I will admit...but we so looked at guys last yr too...and then just promoted OC Guy...so who's to say its just optics to make it seem they changing things up...the fact no announcements that he is not being asked back yet...is a bit concerning...

[GCn20]

15 hours ago, Booch said:

Fact of matter...if you have a healthy option available...and they on your roster...obviously for a reason...right? Then not playing them over a guy who can't physically do it...or guys based on history here...and they are major factors in why you lost...repeatedly...then there is a serious issue with the man calling the shots...and its all on the....aka...HC

And if the guys behind the hurt starters are not good enough...coached up enough...trusted enough...then wtf are they here??!!?!? 

Again...all on the guy we call the HC

And if the same ol same ol buffoonery occurs yet again...then he becomes HC Guy for 2026

This apparent search for OC is encouraging I will admit...but we so looked at guys last yr too...and then just promoted OC Guy...so who's to say its just optics to make it seem they changing things up...the fact no announcements that he is not being asked back yet...is a bit concerning...

Hogan's gone. It couldn't be more apparent. Several media reports from several media people and teams reporting that the Bombers have asked permission to talk to members of their staff about the job. I don't expect the Bombers to fly a banner behind a plane announcing it. They are classier than that. They are not doing this for optics. To do such a thing would be absolutely moronic and unprecedented in pro sports really.

[Booch]

3 hours ago, GCn20 said:

Hogan's gone. It couldn't be more apparent. Several media reports from several media people and teams reporting that the Bombers have asked permission to talk to members of their staff about the job. I don't expect the Bombers to fly a banner behind a plane announcing it. They are classier than that. They are not doing this for optics. To do such a thing would be absolutely moronic and unprecedented in pro sports really.

They talked to guys last year too...some of the same ones...so really...means diddly until they actually make a choice...and or say the previous is not in the plans...that's not being unclassy by any stretch..and based on some of our self admitting communication screw ups previous..that's more lacking class than being outright and definitive saying...so and so is not coming back

And several media reports mean nothing easier...more times than not they way off base too...yes we are talking...not arguing...but until change is confirmed...I can be concerned based on history here...only a moron wouldn't be with what we have witnessed...

4 hours ago, GCn20 said:

Hogan's gone. It couldn't be more apparent. Several media reports from several media people and teams reporting that the Bombers have asked permission to talk to members of their staff about the job. I don't expect the Bombers to fly a banner behind a plane announcing it. They are classier than that. They are not doing this for optics. To do such a thing would be absolutely moronic and unprecedented in pro sports really.

And announcing a player or coach will not be back for the upcoming season...how unprecedented!@@ 😅😆😅🤣

!

again arguing just for the sake of.....par for course

[GCn20]

6 minutes ago, Booch said:

They talked to guys last year too...some of the same ones...so really...means diddly until they actually make a choice...and or say the previous is not in the plans...that's not being unclassy by any stretch..and based on some of our self admitting communication screw ups previous..that's more lacking class than being outright and definitive saying...so and so is not coming back

And several media reports mean nothing easier...more times than not they way off base too...yes we are talking...not arguing...but until change is confirmed...I can be concerned based on history here...only a moron wouldn't be with what we have witnessed...

You don`t talk to other guys unless the job is open. Hogan still has a year left on his contract. It would be incredibly unprofessional to talk to other guys while your guy has a year left on his contract unless you were dumping him. I mean think about it, if your plan is to bring the guy back you show confidence in him, you don`t publically make it look like you might replace him. That sets him up to be a dead duck coach. I have ran businesses for many years and letting an employee catch wind that he might be replaced is a recipe for disaster. You NEVER do that.

Normally I would agree if there was one media report, but there have now been several reporting the Bombers are looking for a new OC.  

Edited 3 hours ago by GCn20

[bigg jay]

8 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

You don`t talk to other guys unless the job is open. Hogan still has a year left on his contract. It would be incredibly unprofessional to talk to other guys while your guy has a year left on his contract unless you were dumping him. I mean think about it, if your plan is to bring the guy back you show confidence in him, you don`t publically make it look like you might replace him. That sets him up to be a dead duck coach. I have ran businesses for many years and letting an employee catch wind that he might be replaced is a recipe for disaster. You NEVER do that.

Normally I would agree if there was one media report, but there have now been several reporting the Bombers are looking for a new OC.  

Source?  I have not seen it anywhere that he was given a 2 year deal.

[GCn20]

13 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Source?  I have not seen it anywhere that he was given a 2 year deal.

It was mentioned on the forum here during the season. I never questioned the validity of the posters statement as most coordinator, nearly all, run 2 years. At any rate, lets say that he was given an unusual one year deal, you still don`t talk to anyone if the plan is to bring him back. It would be monumentally stupid to do so.

Edited 3 hours ago by GCn20

[blue85gold]

8 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

It was mentioned on the forum here during the season. I never questioned the validity of the posters statement as most coordinator, nearly all, run 2 years.

That doesn't make sense to me. OSH only had one year left. Why would any coordinator contract exceed the head coach in length.

[GCn20]

5 minutes ago, blue85gold said:

That doesn't make sense to me. OSH only had one year left. Why would any coordinator contract exceed the head coach in length.

Happens all the time with just about every team. That is why, for instance, Craig Dickenson had to inherit all of Chris Jones staff. Basically most HC contracts are 2-3 years, almost all coordinators are 2 years, and positional coaches go year to year. Almost every new coach nowadays is inheriting some of the last teams coaches because the management cap doesn`t allow everyone to be fired. 

Now, because Hogan was a rookie OC it is possible that he signed for one however no coordinators will normally even talk to you unless you are offering a 2 year deal. it`s the standard deal length for coordinators. Maybe Walters and Osh gave him a prove it contract, but it would be unusual.

Edited 2 hours ago by GCn20

[blue85gold]

4 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Happens all the time with just about every team. That is why, for instance, Craig Dickenson had to inherit all of Chris Jones staff. Basically most HC contracts are 2-3 years, almost all coordinators are 2 years, and positional coaches go year to year. Almost every new coach nowadays is inheriting some of the last teams coaches because the management cap doesn`t allow everyone to be fired. 

Now, because Hogan was a rookie OC it is possible that he signed for one however no coordinators will normally even talk to you unless you are offering a 2 year deal.

Didn't Chris Jones quit during his contract for a better job?

[GCn20]

2 minutes ago, blue85gold said:

Didn't Chris Jones quit during his contract for a better job?

Yes and no. His contract was expired but he had committed to return then changed his mind and left South. It also happened to Chris Jones going to Edmonton as well though.  Pretty much every coach hired since the management cap went into place has had some of the past coaches forced on them.

Edited 2 hours ago by GCn20

[Goalie]

Just like hogans 1 year deal. 

[Stickem]

 Bombers granted permission to talk to Argos Mike Miller for offensive coordinator job....Bombers have already interviewed Tommy Condell for offensive coordinator...I think it's safe to say Bombers are interested in hiring someone else to be their  offensive coordinator in 26'

[Goalie]

Farhan says he’d be shocked if hogan was back. Also expect more offensive coaching staff changes for the bombers. 

[blue85gold]

18 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Yes and no. His contract was expired but he had committed to return then changed his mind and left South.

He has signed a two year extension. He just had an NFL out clause. 

[Noeller]

Well, Walters did say they want to surround Collaros with more tools. Coaching would be part of that I suppose. I think we still have just about the best OL coach in the league, so hopefully Costello is sticking around. 

[Tracker]

58 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

You don`t talk to other guys unless the job is open. Hogan still has a year left on his contract. It would be incredibly unprofessional to talk to other guys while your guy has a year left on his contract unless you were dumping him. I mean think about it, if your plan is to bring the guy back you show confidence in him, you don`t publically make it look like you might replace him. That sets him up to be a dead duck coach. I have ran businesses for many years and letting an employee catch wind that he might be replaced is a recipe for disaster. You NEVER do that.

Normally I would agree if there was one media report, but there have now been several reporting the Bombers are looking for a new OC.  

It is obvious that Hogan is a goner, but this process seems very....clumsy and unprofessional.